Jonathan Turley-
The Tenth Circuit handed down a notable opinion this week in Poe v. Drummond, upholding Oklahoma’s law prohibiting gender transition procedures for anyone under eighteen. The opinion by Judge Joel Carson (joined by Judges Harris Hartz and Gregory Phillips) concluded that parental rights do not trump a state’s determination of what are safe treatments for minor patients.
Opinion polls show that most citizens favor a ban on such transitioning for minors. Other polling shows that the majority also views the transitioning of minors as “morally wrong.”
Various states have passed laws to ban the practice, and various foreign nations have imposed similar bans. more
fuck the state. this is a hill to die on.
Fuck anonymous… The state does have the right to stop blatant child abuse, like gaslighting your kid into “consenting” to irreversible hormonal and physical mutilation by “transing” procedures.
10th cervix robe-*******, your time is coming
Now take that same opinion – “The opinion by Judge Joel Carson (joined by Judges Harris Hartz and Gregory Phillips) concluded that parental rights do not trump a state’s determination of what are safe treatments for minor patients.” – now apply it to a CA law that says genital mutilation of minors IS acceptable.
Just pointing out that the same legal reasoning is not sufficient. Why is why the rights of the individual are so important – and why it is so important for parents to move to a place where their children are protected.
‘Which’ is why the rights of the individual are so important.
A slippery slope when the state can dictate what is right or wrong when it comes to parental care. This may appear to be a win in this case but this is the type of government intrusion which may come back to bite you in the ass. Hey! Lets force those kids to get vaccinated against the parents wishes for the greater good of all.
“The Tenth Circuit handed down a notable opinion this week in Poe v. Drummond, upholding Oklahoma’s law prohibiting gender transition procedures for anyone under eighteen.”
Then:
“The opinion by Judge Joel Carson (joined by Judges Harris Hartz and Gregory Phillips) concluded that parental rights do not trump a state’s determination of what are safe treatments for minor patients.”
Two statements seem in some way contradictory.
I think those parents should face a felony child abuse charge even though it’s not carried out.
“ Tenth Circuit: Parents Do Not Have Right to rent their children out for sex”
Just sayen.
We – “the state” – ban murder, physical assault, mutilation, etc., because such behavior harms people, violates their rights and is wholly uncivilized. If you don’t think you and your fellow citizens should have this power in “your state,” you’re a barbarian and you have no idea what law is actually for! Move some place where you’re free to mutilate your children. After all, their YOUR children to mutilate, right? Who am I to stop you from harming your own kids.
Fuck off and die already.
you idiots think YOU are THE STATE? bunch of fucking pukes. THE STATE is a nazi boot stomping forever on a face. parental rights ALWAYS trump THE STATE, but you cunts have a hard time with reading comprehension. FUCK YOU!
^ Go mutilate your kids. FAFO.
Libtards are always angry. WTF is wrong with you people. Civilized societies protect the young and the weak from predators. Even if the predators are their parents. Have a wonderful day
Been out and about today, but kept thinking about Mr. Libtards comment and came to the conclusion he’s not a progressive Libtard. He’s a Libertarian. Same thing.
I unreservedly approve of the effect of the 10th’s decision. Mutilating children is abhorrent. Full stop.
But there’s a very real problem embedded in the justification for the decision. The court refers to what they’re banning as a medical treatment. That’s utter bullshit. Whether it’s done by a medical doctor, a witch doctor, or an Ethiopian grandmother, it’s a maiming physical assault whether the parents are involved or not.
I emphasize that the decision’s effect is good. It’s its reasoning that is terrible; it’s the reasoning that leads to the edge of that slippery slope.
…let me make this easy and universal.
“No provider may remove healthy tissue or organs, or attempt to counteract physically normal hormonal activity in a minor”
Done.
Puts the onus on the doctors and so forth.
Cant be twisted by demented state actors into forcing trans procedures or other abhorent medical experiments over parental objections.
Legal wording is like genie wishes.
You need to know this is an inherently evil actor you are attempting to use for good, and so be EXTREMELY careful that you give them no words to mutilate as they would children, because if they can…they WILL.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fx3j0j288ysxy.png
^^^^^ When you start linking Reddit shit, you’ve lost.
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its a joke. not a fact. not meant as an argument or anything else. a genie cartoon re “treat government like an evil genie”.
Nothing more.
Some parents want to sexually abuse their kids, sell their kids, physically abuse their kids, kill their kids, etc. and we don’t say that’s legal. How the hell can it be legal to mutilate your child? It shouldn’t be and the law should go farther and treat it the same as sexual abuse or murder and lock parents up who do that to their kids.