(The Center Square) – California will fall 20% short of generating the necessary electricity to meet the state’s 100 percent electric vehicle mandates, according to a new report released by the California free-market think tank, the Pacific Research Institute.
“California’s green energy mandates will require more energy from the electricity grid instead of fossil fuels, making it less likely that the grid can generate the necessary power,” Dr. Wayne Winegarden and Kerry Jackson, the study’s authors, said in a press release. “These policies jeopardize California’s energy security and, without a miracle leap in technology, are setting us up for future energy shortages.”
Governor Gavin Newsom signed an executive order in 2020 mandating that all new passenger cars and light trucks sold in California starting in 2035 must be zero-emission vehicles.
The report argues that the mandate will create energy shortages in California.
It found that nearly two-thirds of the state’s electricity comes from sources the state does not consider renewable. It also found that the state will need to increase its electricity generation by 20.2% to comply with the EV mandate.
However, the state may actually need more, as the report does not factor in prohibitions on the sale of different gas-powered items. more
No Shit. Toyota knew it. That’s why they told California they would not comply. Very stupid people. Must be that common core math.
That CA governor was on Hannity tonight…R.I.P. Fox.
This is no news to the corrupt fascists trying to destroy our way of life. Just like the coming food shortage, and pedophile freaks dancing at the White House.
2035? Odds are their won’t be a ‘California’ by then.
20% my bleeding honkey ass! 480 volts at 100 amps… in every fucking house?
In conclusion, 20% my bleeding honkey ass!
This isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. It’s intended to keep the unwashed masses huddled in their miserable hovels while the upper-class snobs like Governor Hair Gel can ride around in their gas-powered limousines.
General Malaise
I’m kinda hinging my bet on it’s the first state to hit critical mass and rise up out of the ashes as a true free state. Mean while I’ll continue to keep my head down in my little bastion of freedom in NorCal.
Neither here nor there, but, Newsom was obviously born brain dead. But he was born brain dead in a royal blood lines as the heir apparent. Names like Brown, Getty, Pelosi, all contributed sperm an eggs. Obviously that’s why he’s brain dead. The Biden Coup is currently try to prove all Libtards really need is a figure head. Soon to be digital.
Mr. and Mrs. Newsom do have a few things in common. They both like being abused by large smelly men.
Erik
Fucking A, just drive up the 405 at ANY FUCKING time. Can’t be done, ever.
California, on a Tuesday in the Summer of 2020: “No more internal combustion engines to be sold after 2035”. Also California on Thursday, ONLY TWO DAYS LATER: “Don’t charge your Tesla for a few days, we don’t have enough electricity”.
Dumbasses
They are calculating wrong. They don’t have to provide enough power for everyone to use EVs, just the state’s elites.
Really California, how big of a dumb fuck can you be????
Somebody is not doing their basic equation correctly. P=IV.
Most homes have 200 amps service. For the entire shithole. You may have some spare breaker spots. But still, 200 amps. Now you need 100 more dedicated amps on a dedicated 480.
I’m no power engineer, but…
Consider that we already allocate double pole 30 amp breakers for water heaters what draw 4500 watts at 18.8 amps.
Yet another “no shit, sherlock” moment.
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Our rulers in Cali are escalating the force that they’re putting on home owners to put solar panels on their homes. All kinds of bull shit thrown our way. But, it all goes back in the grid. In other words, you could go a substantial amount of time with out power but mean while the solar panels on your roof just charge the worthless abyss. Fuck that. Our neighbors just caved. Cost the 40K. We’re not doing it until the state pays me to charge my own batteries and pays for everything. That day is coming.
Somebody here has to own a Tesla. C’mon, man! Spill your guts on what it takes to charge those contraptions. We need Amps, Volts, Watts, Ampere-hours, charging time, etc. Erik is telling us we need 100 Amps at 480 Volts! Holy crapduck, that’s a lotta juice!
“Somebody here has to own a Tesla.”
No, I don’t own a Tesla, diesel guy here, BUT, even the owner of Tesla says California is nuts. It can never happen. We cannot produce that much spark.
I got the numbers right off teh interwebs. Even if they are half that they are astounding.
I don’t own a Tesla, but my new house is “charger ready”. 250 v / 50 amp receptacle. Like a welder uses.
“…without a miracle leap in technology, are setting us up for future energy shortages.”
By design.
General, I have a neighbor with a Tesla. She’s come home more than once grateful that she made it. But she still says it’s her favorite car she has owned. You can’t fix stupid.
Even 50 amps in an average home is stretching it.
Don’t get me started on apartment buildings.
NEMA 13-50 receptacle, for those at home keeping score.
I just submitted a bit of satire and find myself banned once again. This is from my phone. I’ll be back in a month because that’s how long it takes for the banning to clear. This is getting old.
“I just submitted a bit of satire and find myself banned once again.”
From where?
I’ll tell you what’s weird. During the day I can post a comment without including my email address, but once 5-6:00 comes around my posts require that I include my email address. Why the hell is that? If I was a 150 WPM typist with zero mistakes that wouldn’t be an issue. But that is not me.
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Yes, I was going to do a Pubic Service Announcement. A couple months back I couldn’t get anything to post. My immediate thoughts were, BFH no longer loves me. Sniff.
But oh happy day, I stumbled on if I included my e mail address I could continue to be my old annoying self.
I don’t think management is aware of this. And quite honestly why would they be? So bottom line is, if you’re having problems being annoying, fill in your e mail address.
I get moderated, too. It’s not what we type. It’s some cunt bot AI bullshit.
Sláinte
^^^^^Doubt it. Are you including your e mail address when you post?
“A chicken in every pot and a Level 3 Charger in every tent”
–> A not so far-fetched campaign promise from Gavin, the plastic, gastric Asshole!
For electric vehicles, you have EV chargers that you buy or you use the on-board chargers by just plugging in your vehicle. Teslas have their own systems.
There is what’s known as Level 1 charging with 120 volts AC.
Level 2 charging is with 240 volts AC, two-phase.
Level 3, DC Fast charging is not available for typical homes at 400-1000 volts.
With power being volts X current, the higher voltage allows for lower current for the same amount of wattage.
Like I wrote, Teslas have their own charging systems, but many others use a generic Nema 14-50 receptacle.
These are rated for 250 volts and 50 amperes.
220-240 Volts 2-phase power is required to charge these things.
Houses generally already have this service coming in for appliances such as ranges & dryers.
8 gauge wiring is necessary to carry up to 50 amps.
There is a new code requirement that requires a GFCI (ground fault protection) on these chargers. These can nuisance trip and you may not know that it tripped at night and now your car won’t get you to work. DOH!
Installing a smaller 30 amp breaker for protection is likely a wise move because I don’t trust these cars not to burn the house down by overdrawing in spite of the manufacturer’s claims.
You can adjust the charge with the EV charger configuration.
I believe electric vehicles take the 12-24 Volts DC stored from the big-ass batteries in the car, inverts it to a pulse-width modulated 480 volt three-phase to power a motor that spins the wheels.
Kilowatt hour usage from your home power is all over the board when it comes to trying to gauge what an EV will cost to run.
Efficiency varies, plus it being DC chemical composition batteries, it only gets worse over time.
If asshole environmentalist knew the can of worms they are opening…
Dumbasses!
I have a friend that bought a Chevy Bolt. GM will pay the cost of installing a Level 2 Charger but there is a wait for an electrician to be found, scheduled, permits, etc.
Initially he was charging at 120 volts. It was a multi-day process. It could not be fully charged in 24 hours, it was never less than 32 hours. After the installation of the Level 2 Charger, it was still an 8 to 10 hour process.
How low did he let the charge in the battery get before charging? I don’t know but those are the time periods he related to me.
Here’s the kicker. A few months after getting the car he asks me why I think his electric bill has skyrocketed. What is my bill and what do I keep my thermostat at, what could be consuming so much power were some of the questions he was asking me. His electric bill is triple mine. Our home is a bit larger and they both have two adults living in them. We drive a comparable amount of miles.
He’s in complete denial.
PG&E was in the process of dismantling the last nuclear power plant in California. Newsome last summer begged PG&E not to dismantle as there wasn’t enough power to power the State. Imported power is costly. The environmentalists are also trying to shut down river dam powerhouses. That was going on during the “if it’s Brown flush it” days.
Tesla Model 3 has a 50 to 82 kWh 350 volt battery pack. P = IV, so a 50 amp circuit at 240 volts will deliver 12 kWh per hour. From there it’s 50 / 12 = 4 hours for the short range model and just under 7 hours for the long range model. Those are just the bulk numbers, the battery charger has to taper the charge at each end of the cycle to prevent battery damage, equalize cells, etc… There’s also battery pack heaters, because you can’t charge the battery when it’s below 32/F.
I had house built several years ago, and decided to hedge against the electric car. I opted for a 225 amp panel, and has a 50 amp plug dropped in my garage just in case. No electric car has replaced my 6.7l diesel, but it does power my RV, welder, and actually makes a great place to attach a generator when ice storms hit.
KR