Patriot Retort: I read last night in the New York Post that Canada is seeing such an upswing of COVID patients, it is threatening to overwhelm their health system.
Damn that Donald Trump!
And rather than criticize Canada for its government-run healthcare, I thought I might present to them a modest proposal for getting their COVID outbreak under control.
Let’s send Andrew Cuomo to Canada. MORE
Cuomo and Canada deserve each other! Misses nipple rings and misses twinky bitch are a match made in hell!
A relative is in the medical field near Vancouver, BC.
I was told that they were doing well keeping the numbers down until the Southeast Asian and Phillipine populations decided to ignore the limits on gatherings and go back to large weddings of hundreds of guests at each. The Whuflu numbers then exploded.
I grant you, that we rib Canada all the time, but even Canada does not warrant Cuomo the killer.
Ok. So you can’t sell it in bars and restaurants.
BYOB. I’m sure the restaurants would oblige.
I lived in OKC in 1976 for about 6 months. There were some oddities in how they run their state. One of them was you brought your own hard liquor to any establishment, if you wanted to imbibe such there. They marked your table on the label and you could have any drink you wanted from it – and you paid for it again. Then you take whatever is left when you go home.
Crazy, but point is – it’s been done before.
There were enough of these kind of oddities that I saw no future there.
But I digress.
How can an edict like this have legal force behind it without legislature having to do it’s thing first?
I like the video of the mask cops being run off at a store in NY. Much prayers for the strength of everyone to stand up to these real tyrants.
Ah crap. Posted on wrong article. Oh well. Copy/paste into the other.
Miss that edit button. lol
Insist that they take Fauci, as well.
It’s not a mask, it’s a muzzle.
A fair trade for the Cuomo’s would be a case of Molson because it’s a shitty beer.
Could they like Bob and Doug McKensie in Strange Brew drink an entire giant vat of beer and open the the flood gates and piss all over this stupid idea? San Maguel from the Philippines is worse than Molson or even Mickey’s Wide Mouth beer. We drank really cheap crappy beer when we were younger, the cheaper the better or worse.
Doug Ford, our premier (Governor), did the same shit and he is a “conservative”. Old age home deaths far outnumber others
Toronto IS in lockdown again for 28 Days as we speak (27 to go)
The bureaucrats remain the same REGARDLESS of who is elected.
Our Hospitals are very underutilized and staff for electives is non existent with empty operating rooms.
Kcir (embarrased to be from Toronto)
NOVEMBER 24, 2020 AT 8:03 AM
“Our Hospitals are very underutilized and staff for electives is non existent with empty operating rooms.”
…this is actually a very dangerous aspect of this. A surgeon’s skills are learned and highly dependant on muscle memory, with highly developed motir skills and a sense of touch honed with repeated use. Like any such skill, thought, if you don’t use it, you lose it, and even a relatively short hiatus can cause a diminishing of skills to the detriment of the patient.
They call it a ‘practice’ for a reason. Because these skills NEED constant practice.
The Communists destroy many things in their quest for domination.
But their destruction of the institution of medicine, turning houses of healing into bastions of fear and control while driving out the competent in favor of hirelings of the State and the irreparable loss of skill by wrecking even the ability to learn, is one of the saddest losses of all…
SNS
Cuomo has refrigerated trucks brimming with corpses for them to keep practicing on! They should work out a deal.
A Modest Proposal lol. Swift thinking! 🙂
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1080/1080-h/1080-h.htm
gin blossom
NOVEMBER 24, 2020 AT 9:05 AM
“Cuomo has refrigerated trucks brimming with corpses for them to keep practicing on! They should work out a deal.”
…y’know, it IS very valuable on many, many different levels when someone “donates their body to science” because SOME things are best learned by DOING, but hard to simulate in plastic, and should NOT be learned on live people in a emergency situation for the first time.
Take a relatively simple tool, the laryngoscope.
https://thesgem.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/laryngoscope-1099950_1920.jpg
…this tool saves MILLIONS of lives, from prehospital settings in inverted vehicles to quiet surgical ampethetres where it is well planned and tightly controlled by a highly trained anesthesiologist. It is used to lift the tounge so the larynx and trachea can be visualized rapidly and an endrotracheal tube passed to provide critical oxygen to a patient who can’t breathe on their own and also protect against aspirating stomach contents, blood, spit, and whatever else accumulates in unconscious patients who can’t clear it themselves. (Aspiration can destroy lungs, but it takes too long to go into, so I’ll leave it at that.)
THIS is what you’re looking for. Inside someone’s throat. As they lay dying.
https://www.careercert.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/airway-anatomy.jpg
This is a tool that WORKS.
BUT, as simple and basic as it is, it DOES require some knowledge and skill while precious seconds tick away on someone who IS NOT BREATHING, with every second drawing closer to irreversible brain and cardiac damage, among other things.
It’s an awesomely stressful thing, and VERY possible to do it WRONG in the heat of the moment.
This is where training on corpses can come in.
…The end of the blade goes under the tounge in the throat, and you’re supposed to pull UP without touching any part of the head other than the tounge. Its difficult to describe and I can’t teach it this way anyway, just know that much.
And if you look at the tool, ot LOOKS like a good old lever.
And many newbies will stick it in a supine patient and, in the heat of the moment, use the front teeth as a fulcrum…WHICH BREAKS THE TEETH, and dumps them in all their jagged glory into the back of the throat and points South, so not ONLY is your patient STILL not breathing, you’ve also just ADDED an aspiration hazard AND maimed them.
Yay for you!
…one way to train around this is to go practice with an instructor on donated bodies. There, they can watch you after instructing you, tell you to STOP as soon as you start to do something stupid, and even pull back the corpse’s upper lip to SHOW you how the teeth are being stressed by your ham-handed and clumsy technique in an environment where it’s POSSIBLE to stop and learn and not have your patient die in front of you while you’re surrounded by screaming family members. No, dead flesh doesn’t respond exactly like live flesh, but once rigor passes its still more realistic than plastic and rubber will ever be, because it’s still God’s design.
This is one of the SKILLS that WILL degrade with disuse that I mentioned. Do YOU want your anesthesiologist to fumble your child’s intubation after paralyzing his respiratory muscles?
I don’t.
…and that’s just ONE thing.
You can keep a high level IF you keep practicingon REAL people without reverting to corpses, but if you’re not working, you ARE degrading.
…unfortunately, since they haven’t identified the corpses, its probably illegal certainly unethical to use them for training, until and unless a willing relative or final directive is found. It WOULD be valuable, but not at the expense of human dignity and your soul.
So the only thing they can ever be is albotrosses hung around Cuomo the murderers neck.
…that the Demedia will NEVER acknowledge are even THERE….
SNS, when faced with intubation, I always deferred to those with more experience. Someone intubated a pt in ICU and 3 days later he died. Turns out they were ventilating his stomach.
Charlie WalksonWater
NOVEMBER 24, 2020 AT 11:36 AM
“SNS, when faced with intubation, I always deferred to those with more experience. Someone intubated a pt in ICU and 3 days later he died. Turns out they were ventilating his stomach.”
…if they passed an ET tube into his stomach that’s a visualization failure, but if they didn’t take a stethoscope and listen for both lung sounds AND gastric sounds, thats criminal negligence and probably malpractice…
…you can get this wrong if you use something that DOESN’T require visualization like a Combitube, a King airway, or an EGTA, or even an ET tube with a stylet, but you MUST verify breath sounds and a lack of gastric distention afterwards or you’re going to have an earthy judge AND a heavenly one tell you how bad you suck later because you killed a guy who didn’t have to die with your negligence…
this happened in 82 so my memory is from hearing about it from the RTs working that ICU. Yes, someone should have noticed when his gasses were defying all tx. Vent cranked, 02 maxed. Trusted the anesthesiologist that intubated him, so no one questioned it.
I may have made a few mistakes in my career, but killing someone wasnt one of them.
…I was gonna ask if they had a capnograph, but ’82, so probably not. It was around but it was relatively new and probably not in general use…
https://www.ems1.com/ems-products/capnography/articles/5-things-to-know-about-capnography-Hr5ETRdXzCoU3fLH/
Charlie WalksonWater
NOVEMBER 24, 2020 AT 12:15 PM
“I may have made a few mistakes in my career, but killing someone wasnt one of them.”
…I wasn’t thinking of you, but you said someone else did it and you preferred more experienced people do it. I would amen that.
But it also shows that you can’t trust in men, experienced or not, then or now…
SNS, yes, we had them waaaay back then. We charted using stone tablets too.
LOL
Speaking of mistakes- if a Doc screws up, someone can die. If an aeroplane mech screws up, a bunch of folks can die. And all the while, some jackass with no liability exposure is yelling to hurry up so we can make our numbers look good. Stay away from such.
Charlie WalksonWater NOVEMBER 24, 2020 AT 1:40 PM
“SNS, yes, we had them waaaay back then. We charted using stone tablets too.”
…I’m confused then. So the anestesiologist didn’t use it? Seems like it would catch it in 3 days…
Texson NOVEMBER 24, 2020 AT 1:42 PM
“Speaking of mistakes- if a Doc screws up, someone can die. If an aeroplane mech screws up, a bunch of folks can die.”
…so how many die when a politican screws up?
…I think there’s a lot of vets that can answer THAT one…
SNS my memory says that the intubation partially entered the esophagus or tore it allowing some air to pass into it. He was on a vent so i’m thinking the pressures were increased constantly to get his gases correct. Just because you can see the readings doesnt mean they knew how to correct it. Ventilating his stomach was the wrong way to pass gas but they didnt catch it until too late. Sadly he was in his 20’s and was there from a car accident i think.
…wow, that’s pretty amazing, crap happens doesn’t it? Thanks for completing the story, CWW.
Also, just to make sure I didn’t offend when I didn’t mean to, I have this annoying habit of using the second person narratively in the sense of “you, the person doing this action now or in future” when talking about doing things that go wrong, so it’s meant as a hypothetical “you” as in “were you, any reader, to do do such a thing” and NOT “you, Charlie WalksonWater”. Reading what I wrote I realized it may have sounded like I was referring to you SPECIFICALLY, but that wasn’t my intention at all, and I’m sorry if it seemed that way or sounded somehow accusatory. The “you” could be anyone, even myself, who takes this incorrect action when I use it this way.
Sorry if it felt like I was talking to “YOU” you.
I REALLY need writing lessons ..
@SNS
100% correct about practice.
Part of my Ontario welding lic. dictates that I continually practice. In other words one on my very specific tickets requires that even in the off season I maintain a log and perform a few welds per month. I actually Keep a bin of sample welds to shove up the inspectors ass when he comes around for a surprise inspection.