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Energy analyst says EV charging more expensive than gas

Tuesday, 11 October 2022, 11:00 MJA Uncategorized 20

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As Illinois transitions into a more electric vehicle-friendly state, an energy analyst says the cost to charge vehicles may slow the process.

Gov. J.B. Pritzker wants 1 million electric vehicles on Illinois roadways by the end of the decade. According to the U.S. Department of Energy, at the end of last year, there were just over 36,000 EV’s registered in Illinois.

Energy analyst Bill Cinnamon said the adoption of EVs will hit a brick wall when people realize how expensive it is to charge EVs at work or at public charging stations. And charging costs will continue to escalate as the price of grid electricity skyrockets.

“If we trade gas stations for utility-based EV charging during the day, our costs to drive the car and fuel up those cars is going to cost even more than gas at $3.50 a gallon,” Cinnamon said. more

20 Comments on Energy analyst says EV charging more expensive than gas

  1. Janet Mills wants to put charging stations all over Maine.
    LOLOLOL!!!!
    I can just see an electric vehicle trying to make it down the Golden Road or American Standard Road up north. Dirt roads that wash out and are used by logging trucks driving upwards of 60 mph that always have the right of way. Hours and hours from civilization. So far out in fact when you go up there you take at least 4 or 5 extra gas containers.

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  2. They don’t talk about cold weather. Your battery is less efficient in the cold, your heater is running constantly, which I’m fairly certain likely a seperate power draw as electric drive motors wouldn’t produce the needed heat, and if you’re plowing through deep snow your increasing the draw to the motors.

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  5. EVs will never be as efficient and effective as hydrocarbon fueled vehicles, outside a very narrow application.

    Photovoltaic panels at most residential homes would be insufficient to fully charge a vehicle, or even a useable charge for getting more than five miles from home.

    I think they are totally appropriate in short distance applications that do not require charging en route or at destination. Unfortunately, in most heavily urban settings, vehicles are parked on public streets, and not in the same spot, so charging at home is problematic.

    Additional loads on the batteries, like passengers and cargo, grades and auxiliaries (ac, heater, bitchin’ sound system, fake exhaust noise, etc.),as well as losses due to cold temperatures will significantly reduce range.

    I advocate hydrogen generated by nuclear and renewables (who am I kidding — almost totally nuclear) stabilized with captured carbon — carbon neutral hydrocarbon fuel. You’re welcome.

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  6. There’s only one automotive electric propulsion setup that makes any sense at all, and it’s one that has a gas tank.

    The internal combustion engine can be made very efficient so long as its duty cycle is either (a) OFF, or (b) ON at a constant RPM. Have such an engine, it can be pretty small, run a generator. The generator keeps a modest sized battery charged. The battery powers two or four electric motors that drive the wheels.

    My gut feel is that such a rig in a midsize car could give you comfortable cruising plus the occasional burst of high performance but overall would deliver 100 miles per gallon, maybe more.

    I seem to recall a European automaker (Volvo? Saab?) playing around with this idea maybe 30 years ago but the Greenies shut it down because it still used that nasty ol’ hydrocarbon fossil fuel.

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  7. beachmom
    OCTOBER 11, 2022 AT 11:06 AM

    …your description of logging trucks reminds me of the coal trucks coming down the mountains in WVA. There’s no more terrifying sound in the hills than when you’re plotzing down a 45 degree slope in a gingerly, brake-roasting flatlander way than when you HEAR the fully loaded coal truck somewhere around a sharp bend above you in full Jake-Brake and realize its STILL coming so fast by the Doppler that it’s going to make a belly tank out of you if you don’t scoot. And with mountain on the left and a 2000′ dropoff to the right, your only option is straight ahead with afterburners ON.

    Now imagine that scenario with a dead electric car instead.

    …it’s gonna be YEARS before they even find all the pieces…

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  14. Uncle Al
    OCTOBER 11, 2022 AT 1:20 PM
    “@SNS — Do d/e locos have batteries as part of the system?”

    Only for starting the generator(s). They never run off batteries, just from generated power. They have an auxiliary generator for running air pumps and crew and passenger compartment (if any) utilities, but they also usually have more than one engine to fail over to as well.

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  18. I don’t have 45 minutes to Charge up my vehicle between service calls.

    At $100/hour company labour rate, that’s $75 that somehow must be accounted for.

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  19. Hydrogen fuel cells may be a future technology that works. Currently, hydrogen is about three times more expensive than gasoline per unit of energy. There’s no easy way to generate that much hydrogen, but they are working on it. I read an article in the last few months about a “breakthrough” where the electrodes used to crack seawater were now lasting 17 hours before they conked out. That’s obviously not going to work.

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