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Last Thursday, Florida International University’s new “instant bridge” collapsed leaving six dead, including one student.
Leonor Flores, project executive at MCM, one of the companies responsible for the construction of the bridge, had this to say shorty before the bridge collapse:
“It’s very important for me as a woman and an engineer to be able to promote that to my daughter, because I think women have a different perspective. We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build, too.” MORE
STEM! lol
Just sayen, the county and probably DOT had to sign off on this. Florida seems to be pretty asleep at the wheel all the way around.
Not only that, the media hasn’t been sending mobs to tar and feather them because it’s a woman at the helm. Equal opportunity…unless it’s icky, right? lol
“As a woman” is another one of those phrases that sets my teeth one edge. So empowered, so entitled and endlessness irritating.
Yeah, I notice when people start talking about themselves by saying, “As a woman/African American/gay” or whatever, it means they don’t have any confidence about what they’re going to say next.
“… & they wondered, after all the signs laid before their very eyes, why Western Civilization utterly collapsed.”
just because you have ‘a different perspective’ & are ‘able to put in an artistic touch’ on something doesn’t bring back the death you created
btw, the Parthenon has ‘artistic touches’ … & is still standing
The County had to do approve the engineering. Shit, the county needs to approve house plans. Which means they had to do their own structural calculations. I’ve read where the structure was missing it’s center brace. Who signed it off?
I’ve met some really good women engineer. There’s no ego and they aren’t afraid asking a poor old dumb machinist his opinion. They shouldn’t be taking this there.
“I’ve met some really good women engineer.”
Yeah, well, you don’t know the one in Florida. LOL
I don’t about wemyn, but they don’t seam all that skillful when it comes to math science or construction.
Leave to the men!
keep ’em in the kitchen where they belong.
THEY WEREN’T PAID A FAIR WAGE!!
AND ANOTHER THING! …
these are the twatwaffles that are dooming our country into a Third World shithole!
they want to coddle neglected homicidal maniacs, like Nicky Cruz, & at the same time feel good about engineering crap that isn’t worthy of high school science fair projects
… gad! … I’m turning into my great-grandpa! … (not that that’s a bad thing; he was a cool dude)
http://sandrarose.com/2018/03/leonor-flores-wants-know-didnt-build-miami-bridge-get/
Said Leonor: “It’s very important for me as a woman and an engineer to be able to promote that to my daughter, because I think women have a different perspective. We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build, too.”
The article was a great human interest story about a wife and mother who also happens to be an engineer who, readers assumed, had a hand in making the fancy bridge a reality.
But it was all a lie — PR fluff to promote FIU and MCM as progressive and inclusive workplaces.
Within hours after the bridge was reduced to rubble on Thursday afternoon, FIU’s website updated the article to clarify that “Flores did not work on the FIU-Sweetwater UniversityCity Bridge project in any capacity.”
“Some of my best friends are women engineers…”
Thanks, BB. This is really not a good path to go down. There are many other criticisms to be found in this failure and tragedy. Still, if we want to make the distinction, it would be to show that women — just as men — are fallible and make mistakes and therefore are not superior to men any more than men are superior to women in many fields of endeavor.
Has the cause been found that lead to the failure of the structure? Was it engineering? Materials? Testing? In any event, no one should have been allowed to be near it when it was undergoing stress testing.
As a man, I think a lot of people weren’t doing there job, or weren’t qualified.
When things are meant to be they happen slowly, naturally evolving, and Forcing it always creates back lash.
An engineering spokeswoman for the company made it clear that it wasn’t their fault because the doohickey thing clearly had a bad fit in the thingamajig, at least that’s what she heard on The View. Then she accused some random guy in the front row of raping her with his eyes and sprinted from the room sobbing.
This bridge catastrophe makes a good analogy for a Hillary Presidency.
(“If the only criterion for your choice is who has a vagina….”)
Bridge Engineering 101: A long, heavy bridge span MUST have structural support in the middle below, to hold it up. The reported cracks did not cause the bridge to fall, the cracks were being caused by the already falling bridge. The bridge was an engineering failure because it did not have the required support to hold it up. It is quite possible that the MCM women can be prosecuted for negligent manslaughter due to the deaths caused by the bridge fall. None of them seem to have known about the necessity of structural support. However, whatever officials signed off on this bridge,and on MCM, are likely just as liable for possible lawsuits.
https://olivermcgee.org/fiu-bridge-collapse-why-muller-breslau-matters/
“why a 19th century German structural engineering principle known as Müller-Breslau Matters “
It was Bill’s Bridge to the 21st Century he was always yammering about.
He still believes in a place called Hope. As in, I hope this PoS doesn’t collapse and kill a bunch of people 5 minutes after the ribbon cutting ceremony.
All that was missing was naming it after Lily Ledbetter.
I have certainly known a few good females over my life span that were damn good at what they do.
Some women are much more conscientious than many males.
…Not sticking up for women unknown to me but simply saying some gals make a lot of guys look like shit.
I’m all for artistic flair too but make it safe bitch.
I phucken knowed it from the get go. It had to be a first, some fucking thing:: a minority, a fucking broad, a fucking transgender, a fucking dyke, a fucking ghomo, First in history of American Engineering to build a fucking bridge that collapses. Gimmeafuckingbreak!
Jellybean kiss my ass! Hope you get laid some day.
@Dave “As a man,….” Exactly.
Women can be just as talented as men-maybe more so in some things and visa versa. Why is it that this latest women’s movement talks about how strong women are yet spends its time whining about EVERYTHING? If it’s equality they seek then they should accept that women can be equally successful or be failures just like men. No, they act oddly superior in their pink hats, rage over a hashtag and plan the next weekends March on
fill in the blank. It’s embarressing. Why are they so fired up? Hillary lost. Get over it!
Sorry. 🤯
Sorry Moe Tom, did I strike a nerve?
AA It was a failure of engineering, design, material, and inspection. That’s it. The phucking thing fell down! End of story.
Just to rub it in, Mrs Moe makes a great lasagna but she can’t hang a door worth a shit. But I still love her.
Broke the glass ceiling?
Jellybean. Let it go. We all know there are great women in the world. Even my mother was a woman.
But there are some notorious fuck-ups, Take Hillary for instance. Need I say more?
I’m guessing since it’s a female company, it will come under less scrutiny. They should scream women’s rights. With a good liberal judge, they could be out making unsafe bridges within a few weeks.
I sure hope it wasn’t an “artistic touch” that got all those people killed.
Or Political Correctness that keeps some people from being put out of business for good!!
Wheres the investigation results? This should take about 10 minutes. Who in the county was paid off to accelerate the deal?
What if the head engineer/designer is a Muslim?
As long as everyone is going to draw conclusions before the evidence is in, I would suggest that this is not the first bridge of this type, and while engineering could be the problem, I think that is less likely. Defective materials is a possibility. Personally, I am going to wait till an examination is complete.
I have worked for 2 different companies where the stock was shifted to the wife’s majority so that there were no problems with getting jobs (Women owned business jobs). The men were running the show just the same.
Moe Tom — That’s what I said: That women can be just as big at failure as men; that they are not superior (any more than men are). To use this bridge collapse as an example of just how inferior women are at engineering in general is ridiculous.
It seems to me you are saying that because your wife can’t hang a door properly that all women are bad at that. But there are women in the construction trades who can do that very well. Some even instruct others (men and women) on how to do that — and how to plumb or wire. My point is that a person’s sex doesn’t determine or predict their superiority.
I hope I don’t see the day (again) when women are rejected in certain fields for which they are qualified just because they are women, anymore than I would like to see that happen to men, just because they are men. Isn’t everyone guaranteed the right to pursue their own life, liberty and happiness? Let each succeed or fail on their individual merits.
There are a lot of engineering disasters in which men were the engineers. Some of those, I’m sure, also contained an element of artistic flair, but that’s beside the point.
…actually: For the women of this company to use her sex as an example of how women, in general, are more likely to consider artistic elements in construction design, is flatly wrong. We have entire city skylines attesting the beautiful design of engineers who happen to be men.
Maybe she should explain why this pedestrian overpass was overpriced.
My husband is a cost estimator for one of the largest engineering firms in the world. He said before concrete is used in any job it has to be tested for the specific application. Just looking at this collapse he knew they didn’t test it and it was too thin.
This was a failure on lots of levels. The company has a bad reputation yet was still hired. The proper oversight of inspectors did not happen. They let people drive under it before completion. The company probably was hired because it’s woman owned. There are federal quotas when doing this type of work.
We have talked about what we might do if the company got rid of my husband or closed this office. We would start our own estimating company. I would be 51% owner. Hubby would own 44% and my brother, a disabled vet would own 6%. We’d get every government job going.
Oh, and that woman in the article who said women add an artistic flair to projects?
That kind of bigotted, arrogant crap bugs the heck out of me.
Has she never seen the old buildings of Europe or even here in this country? The old skyscrapers, the Hoover Dam even. Get some learnin’ lady.
As a native american, black, latino, gay woman I take offense by this article.
It was politics that brought ‘er down. I guarantee that competent engineers with a structural stamp were ignored and/or overruled by hacks for political reasons. I have been in this profession long enough to be fairly certain how it went down. In a just world those responsible would commit suicide, but that type knows no shame or has a shred of conscience.
The mechanism of failure is glaringly obvious and the how it got to that point is being exposed.
More like broke the glass floor Plain Jane. (got that one from Bill Whittle talking about the Hilda-beast)
“It’s very important for me as a woman and an engineer to be able to promote that to my daughter, because I think women have a different perspective. We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build, too.”
because we men all know that making a sandwich and washing clothes are a lot like building bridges.
as a 58 year old engineer , I have never worked with a competent female engineer. they are always sitting on the sidelines when the real work was to be done but always right there with their “artistic” suggestions after the pen hit the paper.
“because I think women have a different perspective.”
like looking at things from a lower point of view because they are generally shorter than male engineers ?
or because they have to stand 3 feet behind the male engineers ?
just what gives them this different perspective ?
I think there were SEVERAL ‘hanging chads’ on this construction proposal… 😳
Affirmative Action in action.
The same mentality which gave us Liz (Fauxahontas) Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Frederika (Funny Hat) Wilson, and HR Clinton.
We never learn.
izlamo delenda est …
” the media hasn’t been sending mobs to tar and feather them because it’s a woman at the helm.”
Considering the county, women or men who pay bribes to the pols. Good Dims all.
I just don’t get it. I would have thought that, of all people, women would be the first to understand the need for structural support.
@Bubba:
You forgot “transgendered”.
Engineering is an art almost as much as it is a science. It requires a certain aptitude for knowing how mechanical things interact. Most women lack this aptitude; it is a left-brain/right brain thing. Some people have it, some don’t. The problem with affirmative action programs is that they recruit women into engineering programs who lack this aptitude, even though they can be taught the math, physics, strength of materials, statics, etc. needed to obtain a degree. They hit the workplace where they are promoted over men with more experience so the company can show how progressive they are. All a recipe for disaster.