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Methodist Church Ordains First ‘Non-Binary Trans Person’ As Deacon

Monday, 12 June 2017, 13:15 MJA Uncategorized 50

DC: The United Methodist Church — a mainline Protestant denomination boasting some 12 million members worldwide — has commissioned its first brazenly “non-binary trans person” as a deacon.

The newly-minted “non-binary trans” deacon is the Rev. M Barclay, according to United Methodist News Service.

That’s her first name: M. She’s a woman — born with the name Mary Ann Kaiser — who refuses to identity as either female or male. She’s totally just neutral.

Also, she wants everyone to use plural pronouns — they, them and theirs — to refer to her.

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50 Comments on Methodist Church Ordains First ‘Non-Binary Trans Person’ As Deacon

  4. Neutral . . . binary . . . give me a break. What do her chromosomes say? This would not happen in the small Reformed Church I attend when I can.

    Reminds me of what a very wise elderly Episcopalian priest once told me many years ago when he bemoaned the trends that were started to develop in that church. “Fred,” he asked, “here’s what ‘fanaticism’ is. It is losing sight of the goal and then redoubling the effort.” That sums it up in the progressive world where anything goes to continually remake (“fundamentally reform”) our society.

  5. I wonder what percentage of membership this will cost? As they no longer follow the method of Wesley, a new name could be in order. How about the
    “none of the above” church, gathering. witnesses, assemblies?

  9. In my little burgh there are three churches and less then 100 people that attend all three….Roman Catholic church, Church of Christ assembly and a United Methodist church…
    1) Roman Catholic…pretty standard Catholic church that is monitored by a traveling Ethiopian priest…
    2) Church of Christ….I would call it a mirror of a ‘fire and brimstone’ southern baptist kind of thingy….I don’t need to be called a sinner that often….
    3) United Methodists…This is probably the most creepy of the three…They control the public morals and free thought, all done with a smile. It’s all done by a ‘clique’ mentality, you either think EXACTLY like us or your going to hell and your not invited to the community center for Sunday fried chicken….

  10. The Leftist infiltration and planned destruction of the Christian Church continues to succeed.

    The Left has famously destroyed the Episcopal Church.

    The Plan is to infiltrate the Ministry, then drive away millions of faithful with repellent repugnant disgusting blasphemy.

    The churches empty, then wither and die. The considerable wealth, endowments and real estate of the Church falls into the hands of the Left.
    The strategy has worked everywhere it’s been tried.

    The only countermeasure is to insist that homosexuality is either a neurological birth defect (we were born this way) or a disqualifying lifestyle choice, I.e. “Sin”.

    Of course, there’s also the Sharia cure.
    Amazing that Gays sabotaging Western Civilization can’t see they are guaranteeing their future ends with a nearby rooftop.
    Or a church steeple.

  11. I like to see male priests in public, wearing a priestly collar or a black cassock, and displaying a cross or a crucifix.

    As far as the female whatever, the Methodists are free to practice their own brand of religion, which is their right in our country.

  17. I was baptized and raised in the Methodist church. They had a very low-key approach that my parents and grandparents liked. to each his own. but this isn’t Christianity — it is feminism and SJW bullschitt on steroids and shoving aside tradition. I am not a theologian or am I saint, but the promotion of homosexuality damned sure was not part of the church in which I was raised. Do they think this is going to attract people? this is one of the left’s big problems: they think their dementia is mainstream and that every thinking person must be a psycho lunatic. Anyway, that’s enough, I am done with this ‘church.’

  20. …and the damned thing would have a tattoo. I am sorry, mark up your body to your heart’s content, but when I see a tattoo like that on a wymyn I think she is mentally ill for grossly disfiguring herself. I have yet to meet a wymyn with this grotesque and overdone disfiguring that was not a lunatic. I have interviewed some of them. No job offers and I would had to have a gun vs my head to have extended an offer.

  21. They stripped away the clergy nomenclature from a successful gay, female Methodist minister and allow this? And who the hell is this ‘it’ to require me to use a plural pronoun? Guess, instead of hell, I will be sent thought camp in Nirthern Alaska.

    I don’t care about the ‘gender’ or lack of such, of clergy. I care how they do their job. So, one of my favorite questions, to my left loving labeled sister, when she introduced me to someone, stating they are ‘gay’. How do you introduce me? My sister the heterosexual?

    Is “bi-gender” added to its business cards, the sign in from of the church, the web page? Stupid.

  24. OK, it seems to me Methodist is a Church that plays translator games between God and Man. You can has religion without any of those boring directives on behavior and sin.
    My problem is I don’t know that you can pic and choose which commandments you can invalidate.
    If you parse the Golden Rule you can get: Do unto others.
    Not much moral guidance, if the rules are what you want.

  25. I gave up on organized religion years ago. ALL of the main ones are run by old men who want to tell everyone how to conduct their lives, and expect everyone to pay them for it. I don’t need a “go between” to talk to God, or to interpret The Word. In fact, I have problems with the Bible nowadays too. It’s supposed to be the Word of God, but if it is, who gave these old men the right to change it? By this, I mean, take a look at the latest VERSION of the Bible, AKA The King James VERSION. Mortal men daring to rewrite the word of God? I don’t think so. I will determine what God wants me to do, not a bunch of old guys who think they know me.

  28. How can any Church ignore the Bible and still lead Christians in their Faith – or – is it no longer a Christian Faith they are teaching?

    The Church of “If it Feels Good, Do It Church”.
    Just pick out the Scripture you don’t agree with and ignore them as long as you feel good and still hit the collection plate.

    The Feel Good Churches don’t want to alienate anyone with the Word of God, give all the congregation a participation trophy, new buildings, donuts and coffee on Sunday and social programs during the week. Welcome to the “Feel Good Church”, we don’t teach the Word of God, but you’ll feel good about your sinful self.

  29. Having grown up in the church of “thall shall not”, and then watching as the leader let his wife die unnecessarily due to a bowel blockage because he didn’t believe in
    Doctors and the heir apparent got caught committing adultery, it was pretty obvious that organized religion was a scam.

    These guys owned acres in Pasadena where the rose parade turns Pricey real estate. Orange Grove at Colorado. Mansions and stuff.

  32. @cato. Felt the same way at local Republican Party gatherings. Donuts and coffee. It was a good old boy social club. That was it. Nothing of substance. I left.

  33. @PH: Your papers, please.

    Me too. I don’t listen to it much these days. (It is burned into my memory, along with Hudson and Landry, and some Cheech and Chong.)

    “Now…what were we talking about?”
    “You were…um…I beg your pardon?”

  36. Shit Wayne! Hudson and Landry?
    This explains that mark on my side. We were necessarily separated at birth and mom had to
    Send you to a good home. Moms milk dried up quickly

    Nobody knows Hudson and Landry except us. Nobody

  37. I have holy roller cousins who seem to hate me for being conservative. I was raised Catholic, never sure about them but I think this answers my ongoing question around what the fuck they are up to and talking about all the time.

  42. Arthur that was hilarious! Thank you

    Come home to the Orthodox Church.
    Divine Liturgy in English -with Byzantine Music notation
    https://youtu.be/c4Vndm-GcPs

    Readings from the Bible change every day and including every Sunday. The Bible is, of course, the Orthodox Bible which is different from other translations.

    You can find liturgical music in different chant, different tunes if you will, but the words are always the same.

  46. I used to attend a non-denominational Bible believing/teaching church for about 20 years. I loved every minute of teaching. Rooted in the Bible and almost every sermon hit me right in the middle of my soul.

    Then 3 years ago I noticed something strange. I wasn’t challenged as much and as the months went by, almost never. One day, my group of friends were talking about it and realized that we all felt the same way. Without going into it, we realized that the leadership of the church was more concerned with growing the church and not feeding the flock.

    There were some strange programs they started, like Theophostic Prayer Ministry. I’ve done some research and found that it is a heresy. When I confronted the leadership, they wouldn’t listen. I wrote an article, mailed it to them and kicked the dust off my feet and never went back. But I do pray for them.

  48. This is definitely the finest group of idiots ever assembled. I love you hemales and shemales.
    Find your way to st Augustine September 10.
    What a fine time we’ll have.

  49. We are Southern Baptisr, but several years ago we attended a local Methodist church. Couldn’t handle it when one of the deconstruct or whoever prayed to “Father/mother God…”

  50. Haven’t been to church since a deacon (who I know was having an affair with the wife of a member) chewed me out because I missed a Sunday — I was sick!!!!!

    From that point forward, I realized that showing up in a building once a week didn’t make me a Christian.

    The way I led my life, prayed daily and raised my kids is more in line with being a Christian than doing whatever during the week but showing up in a building full of hypocrites on Sunday.

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