Patriot Retort: You know, I really don’t know what to say about this college bribe scandal that broke yesterday.
Personally, I think the nation would be best served if every single university got bulldozed to the ground. So the fact that wealthy idiots are willing to bribe and cheat to get little Dakota or Madison into Yale or Georgetown seems like a tremendous waste of money.
To me that’s like bribing someone to get the best table at the local soup kitchen.
Or paying a ticket scalper a thousand bucks to see the band that played at your neighbor’s son’s Bar Mitzvah.
Or paying a hundred thousand dollars for a ’76 Yugo.
The American Higher Education system is irreversibly broken.
Let’s be honest here. When the students at Sarah Lawrence are holding a strike demanding, among other things, free laundry detergent and fabric softener, do you really have any faith that holding a bachelor’s degree from Sarah Lawrence is worth the paper it’s written on?
So what’s the difference if your rich parents bribe your way in or you take on a crippling student loan you will never be able to pay back?
Either way, you’re wasting your money and time.
In the Higher Education grift, there is only one winner and that’s the colleges and universities.
Check out this thread from Inez Stepman on Twitter. When it comes to exposing the grift, she gets an A+. MORE
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has a degree in ECONOMICS from Boston University. She graduated cume laude (3.5–3.7 gpa). That tells you how worthless of an Ivy league degree is.
I wonder how many people will loose their degrees. They didn’t just bribe to get admitted, they also passed classes that should have been beyond their academic capabilities. It was a whole graduation package. Was the money distributed to professors as well?
@Davy – I vehemently agree! Elite/Ivy League degrees are foolscap, and have value only to those without values.
(BTW – Boston U. technically isn’t in the Ivy League but that doesn’t detract from your point.)
I’m loathe to point out that undercutting the validity of our new caste credential system known as college also undercuts the arguments of the Fareed Zakarias, Bill Mahers, etc. The thought leaders of people who need to have their thoughts lead.
Their contention is that America is a meritocracy and the redneck shitbirds in flyover country admire, aspire to be, resent and are (through no fault of their they’ll offer in magnanimity) rejected from joining these colleges and live in crowded urban centers because of their Lack of Merit.
They dehumanize those who aren’t bribing their way into the fraud they call Merit. Bribes, affirmative action, ideological pogroms – you know, Merit. So just another day trying to decipher words in Opposite Land.
Maybe that’s how David Hogg made it into Harvard.
He didn’t do it on academic merit.
It means a lot to the people to whom it means a lot.
Otherwise there’d be no market.
Kim Philby was such a successful spy because everyone in the spy game thought so much of his “credentials” and ignored his treasons.
We see the same things in business, law, politics, and the media.
All these sectors of society have some really dismally dumb people representing them, but they all insist that they’re “geniuses” – whatever that means in that context – and my guess is that they have similar educational backgrounds.
So, to point out a (just for instance) Ted Kennedy – a drunken whoring degenerate – and speak the fact (out loud) that he’s inordinately stupid, as well, brings an onus on all who have Harvard law degrees. Anyone (and everyone) who has ever heard him speak knows he was little smarter than a complete moron. The same can be said of some of the “lions” of the media. And all those Academic clowns be-clowning themselves over the Globaloney-Warming Scam, are aligning themselves with Trofim Lysenko and the Piltdown hoax – the money’s good now, but the truth will come out.
“Why, on the whole, thou’rt
what thou art.
Set wigs of million curls upon thy head,
to raise thee
Wear shoes an ell in height –
the truth betrays thee,
And thou remainest – what thou art.”
izlamo delenda est …
Doesn’t AOC keep pointing out that she didn’t get an Ivy education, as if she got less than the best?
You have to admit she’s doing pretty well for herself though, if at the expense of, well, all of USA. She’s pulling down nearly $200k after working last year as a barista, not to mention all the free clothes and whatever endorsement deals she will get after she leaves Congress.
I dated a woman with 2 AA, one BA and a MA and she just wasn’t that bright. It was more about sucking up to the teachers to give them what they want. (And no you sex crazed fiends I don’t mean that kind of sucking up.)
The word “academia” is now archaic.
It’s been replaced by the phrase, “Get the money!”
It’s just a money racket.
In some cases, it might be the only way to get the kids out of their parents basements.
Not any different than having idiots that are little more than trained animals admitted just so they play on “prestigious college” sports teams
I have a biased opinion, so I don’t agree with the author completely. Bulldoze the liberal arts schools , but expand the STEM, medical, and other degree fields that add value to society , as well as a decent living for the graduate.
I would prose to limit, or deny,guaranteed grants and loans to underperforming programs. I don’t see the benefits to society by subsidizing with taxpayer money crap degrees like womyn studies and the like.
More fuel for the fire that the left is insanely
trying to light.
It just confirms the facts to all Joe Sixpacks
that the rot runs deeper than they knew.
These are the bigmouths that consider the
working man to be lower than the dirt beneath
their Mercedes exhaust pipes and then callously
steal what little chance his kids might have to
use the system to advance.
After adding this to Deep State coup attempts with
constant berating and white hatred by the MSM, along
with jobs and taxes being stolen by mobs of illegals
pouring in; dangerous pressures are building.
Mortgages for the Masses — I think it’s all those “Studies” and “Critical Theory” programs that bring in all the money for the med and biz schools. Look at your local state university campus — see all those new science buildings? They cost a lot. It used to be college football that raked in the most.
Dare I say it was all to have bragging rights amongst their elitist contemporaries?
Hell, we knew they are shallow egotists; we just had no idea how deep it goes.
@Anonymous March 14, 2019 at 12:54 pm
> Maybe that’s how David Hogg made it into Harvard.
>
> He didn’t do it on academic merit.
Actually, he DID do it on academic merit.
That’s the point.
@Anonymous March 14, 2019 at 12:58 pm
> I dated a woman with 2 AA, one BA and a MA and she just wasn’t that bright.
Ask any professional educator “If a student has done the prerequisite work, and you were hired as a personal tutor, is there any class you teach, that you couldn’t ‘pound’ into their head (remembering that they have, already, passed any and all prerequisite classes)?”
You’ll not find a single, professional educator who will claim to be so grossly incompetent.
But it’s “turtles” all the way down.
Were intelligence a prerequisite for “higher” education, the market would be disastrously small. Mensa admits the brightest 2%. That’s 1 in 50. That’s only 1 in 50. How many Mensa members do you know? How many en-titled do you know? “Higher” education is the putatively egalitarian progressives buying and selling titles. No different than ancien régime knighthoods and baronets. If you had to be smart to get in, the industry would collapse.
@Mortgages for the Masses March 14, 2019 at 1:27 pm
> Bulldoze the liberal arts schools , but expand the STEM, medical, and other degree fields that add value to society , as well as a decent living for the graduate.
But the liberal arts do offer a decent living for the so en-titled. How many chemistry BAs are TV journalists? How many EEs are political consultants? How many high-school graduates are political consultants? How many high school dropouts are TV journalists?
Just like Gambino Industries, you need the right recommendations to be offered a cut of the vig.
(And, since the “real money” is in the “studies” programs, and the institutions are run by those en-titled by the “studies” programs, how different do you think “your” precious STEM junior programs are? Really, mathematically, are?)
No wonder Obama had his college records sealed! Obama is probably one of those students whose grandma did some bribing. I bet there’s a whole lot of corporation HR departments looking over employees records, and finding out whose degrees are worthless or fake. I use to work in the HR department, it would be fun investigating newly hired people.
@Anonymous March 14, 2019 at 2:32 pm
> These are the bigmouths that consider the
> working man to be lower than the dirt beneath
> their Mercedes exhaust pipes and then callously
> steal what little chance his kids might have to
> use the system to advance.
There is a market (some claim a huge market) for gay porn. Putting your child into that system, because they might do better in it (measured by fame, money, or both) than Dad did hammering steel, is not a moral argument, to most.
For everyone ragging on college degrees, a few questions;
Who here would hire a lawyer, doctor, wealth manager, dentist, architect, psychiatrist, engineer, or any of the few hundred occupations within the STEM industry without a college degree?
Of the top paying jobs for 2018
Physician.
Pharmacy Manager.
Pharmacist.
Enterprise Architect.
Corporate Counsel.
Software Development Manager.
Physician Assistant.
Software Engineering Manager.
Which one of these can you get right out of high school?
Yes, universities are a hot bed of socialist indoctrination, are the enemies of free speech, cost way too much, and except for credentialing and socialization, provide little in the way of life preparation. But in some fields you need higher education, plain and simple.
I think there is a tendency in the face of elitism to push back, declare a separation from the sanctimonious intolerant academics who flaunt their degrees like it is far preferable to decency and good character. And part of this is to denigrate that which they hold dear, namely higher education. Not everyone needs college and for many it is a colossal waste of money, but not for all.
Having little education myself I was industrious and lucky enough in life to amass the kind of wealth whereby I paid for my kid’s education so that they wouldn’t need financial assistance. And now they have used that education in the STEM field to secure good jobs, well paying and intellectually stimulating.
@Rich – we know all that, too. A lot of people make those kinds of comments to bash the people involved who suck.
I think university diplomas should be free. I mean, you shouldn’t even have to attend.
@Rich Taylor March 14, 2019 at 3:51 pm
> For everyone ragging on college degrees, a few questions;
>
> Who here would hire a lawyer, doctor, wealth manager, dentist, architect, psychiatrist, engineer, or any of the few hundred occupations within the STEM industry without a college degree?
A bathetically circular attempt at an argument.
How about this… If you know the difference between an orthopedist from The United States University in Haiti, and a Haitian orthopedist from Harvard, which would you choose? Know, not guess. The United States University in Haiti, and a Haitian orthopedist from Harvard. Not any institute other than Harvard or The United States University in Haiti. Not the urban legend you claim to have heard from a friend of a friend.
Now, for those who admit to not knowing, what should they do? Other than believe the urban legend they claim to have heard from a friend of a friend.
If you’re claiming that the same, the very, physically same people, that know gender is only a social construct, The United States’ Constitution does not say what is explicitly written, and boys beat girls at football because Donald Trump said “Grab ’em by the pussy”, know truth better than those they rule, because they say so, not because they rule, then I’ll evaluate the rest of your argument accordingly. If you’re claiming that there is no, physically no, possible, way, to discern competency in any, every, field, except by the imprimatur of rulers who rule because they say they deserve to rule, then I’ll evaluate the rest of your argument accordingly. If you’re saying you just heard these things from a friend of a friend, well, alrighty then.
> I was industrious and lucky enough in life to amass the kind of wealth whereby I paid for my kid’s education so that they wouldn’t need financial assistance. And now they have used that education in the STEM field to secure good jobs, well paying and intellectually stimulating.
Chelsea Clinton’s mom says the exact same thing.
I’ve worked with a LOT of people who were educated beyond their intelligence.
Some of the stupidest SOB’s I’ve ever seen possess some sort of degree.
Considering what’s going on right now, I believe ‘degree-purchasing’ has been going on for a lot longer than anyone realizes.
Back when I was a liberal about 20 years ago, I remember a smarty pants woman who came back to hang out with her friends in Vermont. We were listening to her tell us about her life in Chicago where she got a gig with a wealthy woman who paid her to write her university papers. The World is not enough for some people.