DC-— The Navy announced Wednesday that new female recruits to the service are going to have to complete a one-and-a-half mile run in 18 minutes, seven seconds.
Male recruits will have to run the same distance in 16 minutes, 10 seconds, and if neither male nor female recruits can pass the initial test, they won’t graduate to further training at the Great Lakes, Ill., boot camp, Military.com reports.
“It’s an effort to raise the bar and develop tough, more qualified sailors during basic military training to increase the lethality of the fleet overall,” Navy Lt. Sean Brophy, spokesman for Naval Service Training Command, told Military.com.
And yet, the standard is not very high, especially for women. With a pace of about 4.5-5 miles per hour, it’s possible to complete 1.5 miles in 18-20 minutes. This speed is slightly faster than a very brisk walk. read more
The keyword is “new”. This is an initial fitness standard, not the final one, as in this is the standard you have to pass prior to beginning training.
Additionally, it doesn’t cover what other tests are part of the Navy Physical Fitness Test (NPFT). The APFT has soldiers do as many push-ups they in two minutes, followed by two minutes of sit-ups, then a two mile run.
Standards for the APFT are much lower for females on the push-up portion and two mile run, while the standard for sit-ups between male and female are the same.
You’d think they’d have a test involving swimming, not running.
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That sounds grueling. I could probably make it is as a new recruit even as a long haired, over fed leaping gnome at 62 and 11/12ths. Or I could drive it in a minute and a half, which would be my first choice.
Both are embarrassing.
I am the Personal Fitness merit badge counselor for my scout troop, which I inherited about 20 years ago from the scoutmaster. Following his lead, I require that scouts be able to run a mile at the 50th percentile level of national testing for boys and girls his age. I got the numbers from the Presidential Fitness Award program so they are official. So after 3 months of working out an 11 year-old scout has to run a 9:20 mile, and if he waits until he’s 17 he has to run it in 7:07.
I also remember attending my cousin’s graduation from MCRD boot camp in San Diego, long ago. They mentioned that the highest number of pull-ups before they stopped scoring was 10. 10, seriously? I would be embarrassed if any marine finishing boot camp couldn’t do 10.
Why are the Marine standards higher?
I ran the mile in junior high school around … 7mins 45 secs or so. We had to do it every Friday. And cross-country once a month. UGH! And that was with leg problems. lol
Damn, I hated PE.
You mean the standards are the same for whites and “persons of color” ? Not from what I hear.
If a male can’t meet the standards for male recruits, can he just say he self-identifies as a female or does he need to have his “tackle” removed?
Marine PFT (to score 100%):
20 Pull-Ups (or 82 push ups for 70% of the score)
(Women do the flex arm hang)
105 Crunches in 2 minutes or less
3 mile run in 18 minutes.
(slightly more time allotted for women, but they gotta do the whole damn 3 miles and they’re proud as hell about it).
More of Barky’s handiwork
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/19/marine-corps-weighs-lower-standards-for-women-afte/
Every time I’m over in the Crystal City complex near the Pentagon, I see a lot of active duty uniforms.
Some are fit. A surprising number are clearly not. And a goodly % look too soft and too obese to pass my long ago Junior High basic PE standards.
“…according to Defense Department data. Obesity rates are highest among women, African Americans, Hispanics and older service members.”
Per the Military Times
Now we know why they are lowering the standards.
Yeah but I bet they are all “Hot to Trot” during off hours!
Vietvet: knowing how to swim is bad luck for sailors. If you fall overboard, they’ll never find you. The new working uniform ensures that. Even if the did spot you, the helmsman would probably run the ship right over you these days. Besides, most of the time, the closest land is straight down.
I know I’ve been out a long while, but an 8 minute mile was the standard at Great Lakes in 1985. We had to finish the mile and a half in 12 minutes running in formation. RPOC, lengthen your stride!
What’s next? Redesign submarines to accommodate a “chunkier” crew?
Hell, with AI-controlled armed mini-drones who needs humans to fight wars?
Yes, this does indeed look like Barky’s work. So get rid of every Navy official tainted with Obama’s gayness, weakness, and worthlessness.
This isn’t new.
Females have had a lesser standard than males since at least when I joined in the mid-90’s. And as you get older, the standards loosen up slightly too.
And @Vietvet: Yes, you can choose to swim in place of running the 1.5 miles. I was never a runner, but could pass PRT swimming.
💥 QUICK FACTS 💥
*Standard high school cross-country 5k run = 3.1 miles.
Top 2 H.S. cross-country times ever recorded (men):
🏃 Chris Derrick 13:55.96
🏃 Doug Smith 14:35.32
⏺ I ran cross-country and my best time was 18:21. –Didn’t win SNOT with that time, but it’s about average. *Note. Cross-Country is not a flat tracked surface, it’s up and down hills.
FASTEST STANDARD 5K TIMES EVER
🏃(Men)Kenenisa Bekele’s 12:37
🏃(Women)Tirunesh Dibaba 14:11
⏺ SO BASICALLY, an average trained person can run 3.1 miles in about 18 minutes, yet the Navy “demands” they run HALF of that distance in the same amount of time?
While I run 12 laps around a track, drag myself across the finish line, I could probably beat a female Navy recruit that only had to run 6.
PATHETIC!
I expect them to get paid LESS since they can’t do equal work.
@CRYOJOHN: Knowing how to swim is bad luck for sailors? Seems counterintuitive on the face of it. However, I guess not knowing how to swim actually would be a good way to reach that closest land you were mentioning.
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I remember having to tread water for at least 15 minutes in boot camp in the pool at San Diego. Also the reason bell bottoms were used by the Navy like they were was that supposedly the legs of the bell bottoms would balloon up and hold air to hopefully keep you afloat. The new Navy uniforms suck by the way with their blue camoflauge but hey I’m old school 1970’s Navy. I also had a very bright strobe that was attached to me so they could again hopefully find me if I ever fell overboard into the sea and a self inflating life vest that I always wore when I was up on the flight deck. The fall from the flight deck of a carrier would probably kill you anyway since it’s at least 80-90 ft. above the water line and in my case since I usually carried 75-100 pounds of tiedown chains on my back I would’ve sunk to the bottom real fast. And once upon a time when I ran track back in 1970 in HS I could run a mile in about 5 minutes, not now but I could back then when I was young and skinny.
But don’t the feminists claim that male and female is a social construct? So why are the standards different? Is women’s social construction of time different than mens’?
3 miles in under 18 minutes was the Army Ranger School standard when I was in. When I was in the 82nd Airborne, everyone ran 5 miles in the AM.