Def-Con News readers, I’m thinking you’re way overdue for some good old fashioned guns and apple pie kind of positive news. Well, Constitutional Carry appears to be an inevitability in Utah, as reported by Jose Nino on Big League Guns. And isn’t there a saying that goes something like, How goes Utah so goes the country? Okay, maybe not. But anyway one more state joins the club–the Constitutional Carry Club.
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Good to hear.
After giving us Mitt Romney, Utah redeems itself at least partially.
Just got back from AZ on a recon mission. LOL. We stayed at a 5 star Marriott resort. Cool place. While we’re checking in and getting our shit up to the room I’m feeling a little apprehensive about wearing my concealed Glock there. We get in the elevator and there’s a guy wearing a cowboy hat, boots, and a 1911. I felt right at home after that.
Brad, there no permit laws here. Lots of people carry. Most conceal but open carry is fine too. No one bats an in rural Arizona. I don’t know about the cities. I don’t go there.
On that note….please check out the show low/pinetop area. I would be embarrassed as an Arizonian if you didn’t check out the less populated areas. We have a lot of small towns.
Thanks Aaron. We really enjoyed AZ this trip. I will check those areas out.
If two masks will keep me safe, two guns will solve everything…
I don’t know Maricopa county.That’s Phoenix. We drive around it. Flagstaff/Williams is nice. Tuscon is nice. Much nicer than Phoenix. Flagstaff is a college town though. Nice to visit, too annoying to live in. But the surrounding areas are nice.
Williamson Valley where I live is fantastic. Prescott is nice…but crowded for a small town. Real estate is pricey. Chino Valley and Paulden is poor, but it doesn’t matter if you buy a huge chunk of land. Also, they have water. Lots of rural areas don’t. People haul water. If you get a place with a well, 12 gal per minute is fine. Well may be 300 or deeper. Pricey if you need to dig one.
Just depends on what you want. Hunting is nice all over the state. The mountains are much, much cooler than the valleys and have 4 seasons. Happy Jack, Strawberry…lots of small towns.
If you decide rural….one caveat.
Rural Arizona is horse/hunting people OR dirty biker speed freaks. Also surly Injuns…. if you don’t mind hanging out every day with the guys who spent most afternoons in H.S. detention you’ll be O.K.
Otherwise fall in the Church goin’ big hat wearin’ crowd. Nicest cowboys I’ve ever met….but also the only Cowboys I’ve ever met who wear guns as a part of their job.
The only disappointment for me has been the Churches. We toured some a while back. Wow.
Catholics and Mormons seem the sanest out of the bunch.
There ya’ go. I’m speaking plain and I’ve never lied to you….much…. never on the things that matter.
Anyway, leaving Cali is tough. I know whats thats like.
Aaron
Cali is tough to leave. I’ve been ready for a long while. Me and the wife are both natives, and she’s been saying all along she doesn’t want to leave. That all changed after the election. Thanks for the info. That’s actually better info then I’ve gotten from anybody. I love the hell out of surly Indians and spent my fair share of days in detention.
I hunt. Rifle and Bow. Bad thing about AZ is even residents need to get in the lottery.
The wife has a lot of family in Phoenix and Scottsdale. There’s more out of state plates running up and down the freeways there than AZ plates. Primarily Cali but Washington, Oregon, etc, too. I hope to God their not Libtards. Locals in Maricopa already purchased the rope to hang the city council. I guess bottom line is we are ready. Thanks for the info.
Looks like the exodus has begun. We are heading to AZ in two weeks to check it out. Oregon has become nearly unlivable.
Tony R
Lots to explore. I’ve been there a lot on business. But honestly I loved the hell out of the desert this time around. I’ll ask FUR to send you my email address so we can share notes. This will take us a while.
I left Cali for the last time when Jug Ears got elected. BUT, it took me years before that to actually do it. Moved to Washington, moved back. Moved to D.C., moved back. etc. People who didn’t grow up in Cali will never understand what it was like, why it’s so hard to leave for natives. And Gold Country? I got married in Grass Valley. Used to go up to the lil’ town of Washington in the sierras all the time.
Anyway. Yes, the obvious places are getting filled up with out of state people. Yes, many are idiots. Even Chino Valley is getting built up, thus ruining one of the drives into town. No it’s no where near as crowded as Cali. But for rural people used to stopping in the middle of the road to chat with neighbors, its crowded.
Which is why I recommend rural. At worst, you’ll get a solid decade before it gets built up.
Ideally, you’ll find a town that you like. Get a fixer upper and put sweat equity into it. It’s way, way better than moving into a housing tract or new house that now blocks the old time inhabitants view or sucks up their water.
County land. Buy the land. AND the mineral and water rights under it. Very important. Sold separately.
But the very best place to live? Kanab Utah. Right across the state line from Fredonia. Kanab has a Disney main street usa area, it has some old very cool hotels because it was used for decades by Hollywood to shoot westerns at. They even have a museum for all the movies shot there. Stunningly beautiful. Red rocks. Why move there?
Because Fredonia is getting built up. Kanab is too smart to have urban sprawl ruin it’s charm. So all the hotels and apartments are going up in Fredonia. It’s a tourist issue. I’d run a construction crew. Doing…whatever, because they NEED every skill. Live in Kanab, drive 5 minutes into Fredonia to check on work, then drive back to Mayberry.
I know that’s too far from Phoenix Scottsdale, which is why Show Low Pinetop seems more doable. 45 mins to Phoenix but up in the hills away from everyone.
Ask me anything. I’ve been here long enough to save you from getting skinned alive by realtors and con men.
It’s sickening to think WE are being driven out of the better areas by a bunch of liberal ASSHOLES.
THEY are the ones that should be forced out of the better states and into the pucker brush.
Thanks Aaron, I for one will take you up on that offer. Your previous water info was invaluable.
Pack rats live in the lower desert areas. You have to park everything inside the garage or the WILL eat your wiring.
They never tell people that. 300.000 thousand dollar retiree RVs people have and they get gutted by pack rats.
But you know what? You’ll probably end up in Prescott. Why? Easy to get to Scottsdale. Small town. But it’s a small town that caters to people with every affliction known to man. Prescott started out that way. As a health resort. Right alongside the miners. Now it caters for retirees. World class Medical facilities. Outpatient services for everything. Damn handy if you have kids. No need to go to Phoenix for any reason.
Prescott does have mountain land behind it. People live up there. Or out south of town along Copper Canyon.
It’s got a courthouse and a bandstand and most weekends the courthouse square has live music, or craft fairs or protests, most for..occasional smaller protests against. Damn near as many gun shops as churches. Sometimes right next door to each other. Talk about handy.
It’s just not gonna’ save you any money. Real estate is California prices. But….they’re are some nice houses there. A lot of Victorians, a lot of cool post modern one offs.
I’ve read That a Prescott’s crime rate is huge do to all the rehab facilities that boot their patients out in the street after the Fed money runs out.
Huge? No. In fact. If you get arrested in Prescott they have to drive you to Cottonwood over an hour and an entire mountain away because Prescott doesn’t have a jail. They built a Juvenal hall though. It’s 125% pro Trump. Our county has never had any voting issues.
The main thing, is that it’s probably too crowded. Why leave Cali to live ass to elbow someplace else? But it’s worth a look. But so is Tucson. Odd as that sounds. An hour away from Phoenix, much cooler in summer. Small clean University town. Astonishing Dr. Suesse mountains surrounding it. You can even ski in them.
Kingman is terrible. However…old town Kingman is charming. Kingman is north of the 40. Old town is south of the 40. It looks like the American graffiti town. It’s being revitalized. Lots of shops, gyms, restaurants. No one goes south of the 40. Everyone goes north to Vegas. 1/2 a mile from the ugly interchange and it’s small town America.
Peeples valley, Skull valley, both oasis in otherwise dry mountain terrain. Hour from Phoenix.