BFH on The Black Rose Show

20 Comments on BFH on The Black Rose Show

1. Lemme guess, you just might touch on Trump’s celebrityism, right? For once, I am enjoying our society’s focus on celebrities. I’ve had more fun watching lefty and RINO head go all ‘splody!

2. Of course, I’ve heard Pinko tell his Cindy Crawford joke but you just got that in under the wire!

3. Nope. I didn’t talk about Trump’s celebrity. I talked more about people’s obsession to become famous at any cost, positive, or more importantly, negatively.

4. ..whew! Sorry, I had to bail.

   Who the hell is she? The Book of John and Revelations? ….and porn….?

   ….and you — never impressed by a celebrity — believe America (and you?) were transformed by Lives of the Rich and Famous….? (whatever that was…)

   Whew. ….Lady in Red

5. When I was a kid we had a multi party telco line. When you picked up the
   Handset there were always two people talking.
   This show sounds the same.

6. You kinda sound like a semi-burnt out rock star.

7. The Black Rose is an author. http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/7308086.The_Black_Rose

   I stand by my assessment that something changed in people around the 1970s.
   People point to the Jerry Springer Show as an example of people doing anything to be famous.
   The girl who punched the girl holding the baby, causing the baby to fall on its head, said on Facebook she “was famous!”

   Jerry Springer was the vehicle, but what was the cause?

   In the 70s their was a show called The Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.
   The essential message was that you shouldn’t be content with your spartan life compared to these mega-rich people leading exciting lives while you just rode out your meager existence to death.
   This message worked because it was coinciding with the decline of God in our nation.
   When you do not believe in an eternal life in heaven, an afterlife, this is it. And some people are so desperate to make a mark, when it’s obvious it won’t be a positive mark, they settle for a negative mark, an infamous one.
   Keeping their names in people’s minds, no matter how, is their afterlife.

   One of my favorite movies is Dog Day Afternoon. There’s a scene that is seemingly insignificant.
   A pizza boy delivers pizza to the hostage situation and after the bank robber goes back in he turns and leaps in the air saying into the tv cameras, “I’m a superstar!!”

   Sidney Lumet, the director, perfectly captured what was going on in our culture in that one moment.

   Furthermore, look at Candid Camera, which was on before this phenomenon. When the people were told they were on TV there was a shyness, an embarrassment, a humbleness, a feeling like the entire thing was a bit gratuitous and unnecessary.
   Cut to the modern version, SCARE TACTICS, a show where they bring people to the brink of a heart attack.
   When it’s revealed they are on TV they think it’s great.
   Had the people done the same thing to the Candid Camera generation they would have murdered them.

   It’s a different time and people have a thirst to be in the spotlight, whether it be good or evil.

   If the show wasn’t your cup of tea, so be it. I don’t really much GAS. I’m not doing it to become famous or be a celebrity. I’m doing it because I enjoy being able to talk rather than write it ll out.
   Same thing for The Black Rose.

8. She’ll like that critique, whether you meant it positively or negatively, because that was how she pitched it to me.
   “Just have it be like someone is listening in on a phone call.”

9. “semi” is good, no?

10. This is what happened. Progressive liberals run hollywood.

    The Doris Day Show was a family-based sitcom for its first three seasons. The drastic premise change for season four in 1971 may be attributed to the overall change in CBS’ programming philosophy, with the network cancelling many rural based and family programs, and replacing them with more urban, sophisticated, adult oriented programs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doris_Day_Show

11. Very good.

12. I think you’re right about the decline of Bible based Christianity as a cultural influence having produced the “celebrity culture” we have now. The Bible teaches that we aren’t to be self centered / self important (pride) because our perspective should be that we are servants of an almighty God. Today’s culture seems to teach that we can be our own gods (or if we can’t, we can make gods of people that are viewed as “famous” which drives flawed characters to desperately want celebrity status so they too can be “gods”).

    Hedonism and narcissism have replaced humility and self respect as desirable cultural values. I think that our education system has been a very negative influence as schools gradually became indoctrination centers for “progressive” thought rather than actual institutes of learning and valid education. Self-esteem and self-love without achievement of any kind were pitched as being critical for emotional health by society instead of learning life’s natural (and often hard) lessons by trying and failing and trying again and again. And social media now offers instant gratification for people seeking celebrity so the insatiable need for “likes” and “followers” drives them to become even more self-centered and self-important.

    The shallowness of relationships and thought in today’s society naturally produces masses of self-centered, self-important people that really don’t have any concept of something being bigger or more important than themselves. So being a “celebrity” (even a big fish in a small pond) offers these people self-esteem without having to earn it. And humanity is much worse for it.

13. Fur…. The evolution was not television. It was the schools, starting in the 1970’s when we started teaching nothing about making change for a dollar, or English grammar.

    It started with a sense that you deserved an award. For nothing in particular.

    Television, I suppose, exasperated it, but it was inculcated by teachers, every day: we are all celebrities.

    We began to lose a sense of personal value, of *winning*, but, rather, “being a winner” and some of us ended, I suppose on tv shows.

    The root is that too many kids out of public schools, today, know nothing. Nothing except they want to star in the NBA, or….

    Their teachers did not teach them anything else. …Lady in Red

14. The Day They Kicked God Out of the Schools.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNjpddyn0HE

15. As an aside, one of my Pets a couple of years ago bought me a much sought after (by me) Candid Camera video, “What Do You Say to a Naked Lady?”

    I am soooooooo glad I have seen that. I learned — the wonder and simplicity and “fun-ness” that America once was.

    “Nice outfit,” said the guy, leaving the elevator, embarrassed.

    …Lady in Red

16. Kudos; nailed it.

17. Great post.

18. Celebrityism: HCSB Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth both n those days and afterwards, when th sons of God came to the daughters of man..

    Who bore children to them. They were the powerful men of old, the FAMOUS (emphasis mine) men.

    To the world looks great, but in reality nothin’ but a facade.

19. I didn’t say Candid Camera era television caused the decline. Candid Camera was early reality tv, and it was a mirror, and a time capsule, and you can learn a lot from people’s behavior.
    People were humbler, modest, reserved, and respectable but they also had a good sense of humor.
    Maybe because I referenced TV 2 separate times you got confused?

    I said the decline of God caused what we see today. And it started in the 70s. The nexus of God being punted from the classroom and hedonism replacing it was the obvious problem. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous was the product of this nexus. People were ready for, and ate up, this huge display of gaudy hedonism. Both the subject and the viewer were in a Dutch Rudder that removed all sense of humility.

    There was palpable shift towards excess, borrowing money you didn’t have for things you didn’t need, an increased focus on what celebrities had which you did not, and an increased focus on “being somebody.” It didn’t matter for what, normalcy was nowheresville.

    You couldn’t get into Studio 54 because you weren’t picked because you were a nobody.
    But the infamous got in. If you were in the news for doing something stupid, if you had any sort of celebrity, you were plucked from the line and you got in. Porn stars got in, they were becoming household names.

    These things mattered to the younger generation, and they took notice.

    Now we have people like SteveO, who is famous because he puts a Roman Candle in his ass, he gets into the club. He’s admired. Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian became stars because they leaked their own pornos.

    Irony always brought up this point.
    In the movie Quiz Show, based on the 1950s quiz show scandals, the shamed cheater went into obscurity.
    Now, there is no shame.
    Amy Fisher, a girl who shot her “boyfriend’s” wife appears on television.
    Tonya Harding appears on television.
    Traci Lords went from appearing in underage porn to movies and television.

    This happened within a couple of generations.
    And it’s getting worse.

20. I want to thankyou for making this one. I recorded this show and I have been playing it in our store Parking lot to keep the skateboarders away.
    It has been playing on a loop for a few hours and already the results are
    No skateboarders.
    Well actually everyone is leaving. Even our customers.