Methinks is was free speech in Berkley in 1964 to say that there should be no free speech in the 21st century!
Salve
Too bad they didn’t level that place when there was a chance…..
Lookin’ more white than black in that there old picture.
Hey Brown shirts those were your parents… bet theyr’e real proud of You as they watch you break what they fought for.
Actually the folks are probably crying tears of joy, as they realize Free Speech has just gotten to free.
FREE SPEECH
one per customer, please
“Beserkley.”
I love Michael Savage.
My best friend and I hitchhiked from Portland to San Francisco in Aug. of 1972. We ended up in Peoples park in Beserkley in the midst of a garbage strike but we did we did get to see a free concert with Country Joe and the Fish (gimme an F, eff Nixon etc.), Jesse Colin Young and Asleep At The Wheel (I love Western swing). It was the last blowout of our youth (my kids don’t believe me when I tell them this story) because I joined the Navy at the end of Aug. 72 and he joined the Navy the next Spring in 1973 and retired as a CPO about 10 years or so ago. Nothing has really changed about Beserkley, if anything it’s worse now than it was then.
Geoff, I met Joe McDonald at a performance in Kent OH a few years back. Nice guy. We didn’t talk politics, though. A photo I took of him with my wife is on our fridge.
I just glanced at his web site. Surprisingly, there are no Trump rants there.
That had to be one heck of an experience for you to see all that back in ’72.
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I guess I started my law enforcement career during the Kent State riots in May, 1970. I was a junior and volunteered as a student marshal walking the campus at night. Riots? After the first night of arsons and vandalism it was a joke. Rich kids made a big fuss to get out of taking final exams and liberal professors agreeing to pass/fail grading for all protestors. The male students took their sleeping bags and girlfriends to the quad and screwed all night. Their had to be hundred of them out there. The sleeping bags reflected their activity as they slowly crept along due to their motions inside the bags. We marshals called them “inchworms”.
Bill Clinton’s general counsel when he ran for president, David Ifshin, was a classmate of mine running around the campus in a bandanna and Che t-shirt. What a tool. That same year he was in Hanoi with another traitor, Jane Fonda. *spit*
How are these people ever going to achieve their goals without black masks, bricks and fire?
The left is heavily populated by drug addled, over-the-hill, stinky hippies who think it is still 1964.
@sig94: That is an amazing insight into May 4. All the stuff I’ve read and heard over the years, I’ve never seen a description quite like that. Thank you for sharing it. Inchworms indeed!
I was only 12 when May 4 went down, living in a small town on the Ohio River some three hours south of Kent. It impressed me deeply, and I spent a lot of time as a lad researching the events, especially Michener’s tome. Alas, being impressionable and influenced by Life magazine and popular culture overall, I swung hard left for many years after. A May 4 presentation I gave in a class in high school in which I faulted Governor Rhodes and the ONG resulted in me getting an ‘A’ and getting my ass kicked in the hallway by a football team defensive lineman, heh.
Many years later at work someone lent me a book, I was There: What Really Went on at Kent State, by Ed Grant and Michael H. Hill. This was the first real insight I ever read, other than court hearing transcripts, concerning the event from the viewpoint of ONG members. Not the best book I ever read, but it was an eye opener for me.
Understandably, it wasn’t in the best interest of the State of Ohio or the US government to divulge information about the shooting freely, but I believe that for most people who hold strong opinions about the events that spring at KSU, they fail to take into account most if not all aspects of the experiences of the Guardsmen leading up to their involvement at Kent. Even today, at the May 4 Memorial at KSU, no regard is given to the experience of the Guardsmen in the displays and presentations.
This is something to consider as we continue into a time of leftist violence in this country. Neil Young, who wrote the song “Ohio,” penned in 1977 concerning Kent State: “Probably the most important lesson ever learned at an American place of learning.” Let’s hope, for the sake of our nation, that that lesson has not been forgotten.
Buck, and 1968 and 1972, the damned hippies still think it’s the late 60’s and early 70’s. A lot of them still have Peter Pan syndrome, they never grew up. Most of us including myself grew out of that crap a long time ago. Thank God. And one other thing about that picture above, notice that most of the men all are wearing suits and ties, but not all.
Geoff aardvark flower guy, Right on. I too noticed the tasteful garb of the likely mainly peaceful protestors. I expect that they would look at the human trash in Berkeley this week with disgust and be alarmed at the violence and filth. There comes a point when you gotta take responsibility and get a job and take care of yourself, and grow up. I was not in the military but I learned this pretty quickly on a loading dock job that started 0300 when I was 18. Loved the job, loved getting up before everyone else, loved getting a paycheck and not having to rely on my wonderful but not-rich parents. I thought I had it made. Learned some work ethic too. Unfortunately a lot of these jobs have gone to immigrants and kids don’t get the same opportunity today. I’m rambling, thanks for indulging me….
All them pictured are now tenured professors?
@flip – My dad lost his job and couldn’t help me financially so in July of 1970 (2 months after the riots) I got a job with the university campus security and worked full time as a patrol officer on midnights and went to school during the day. In August of 1974 I joined the Syracuse PD and got to know the supervisor in charge of the police intelligence section (who was the brother of one of the officers I worked with on campus).
The Intel supervisor, Sgt. Mannie Leone (now deceased), told me the campus riots on Syracuse University were due to the efforts of outside agitators. The PD had undercover cops infiltrate the meetings and saw what was happening. I worked with these cops later when I joined and have pix of them when they were undercover. You’d never know by looking at them.
That’s one of the reasons why the Chief at the time (Tom Sardino) would not send riot police on campus, also the SU admin was real nervous about having a bunch of cops beat the crap out of these rich snotty kids. We now know that these outsiders who raised hell all over the country were mainly sponsored by the KGB as discovered when the USSR broke apart 21 years later. The SU students just went along for the ride.
Instead of the KGB, now it is Soros and the globalists. Some things never change.
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Methinks is was free speech in Berkley in 1964 to say that there should be no free speech in the 21st century!
Salve
Too bad they didn’t level that place when there was a chance…..
Lookin’ more white than black in that there old picture.
Hey Brown shirts those were your parents… bet theyr’e real proud of You as they watch you break what they fought for.
Actually the folks are probably crying tears of joy, as they realize Free Speech has just gotten to free.
FREE SPEECH
one per customer, please
“Beserkley.”
I love Michael Savage.
My best friend and I hitchhiked from Portland to San Francisco in Aug. of 1972. We ended up in Peoples park in Beserkley in the midst of a garbage strike but we did we did get to see a free concert with Country Joe and the Fish (gimme an F, eff Nixon etc.), Jesse Colin Young and Asleep At The Wheel (I love Western swing). It was the last blowout of our youth (my kids don’t believe me when I tell them this story) because I joined the Navy at the end of Aug. 72 and he joined the Navy the next Spring in 1973 and retired as a CPO about 10 years or so ago. Nothing has really changed about Beserkley, if anything it’s worse now than it was then.
Geoff, I met Joe McDonald at a performance in Kent OH a few years back. Nice guy. We didn’t talk politics, though. A photo I took of him with my wife is on our fridge.
I just glanced at his web site. Surprisingly, there are no Trump rants there.
That had to be one heck of an experience for you to see all that back in ’72.
Look! Pants!
Look dresses
I guess I started my law enforcement career during the Kent State riots in May, 1970. I was a junior and volunteered as a student marshal walking the campus at night. Riots? After the first night of arsons and vandalism it was a joke. Rich kids made a big fuss to get out of taking final exams and liberal professors agreeing to pass/fail grading for all protestors. The male students took their sleeping bags and girlfriends to the quad and screwed all night. Their had to be hundred of them out there. The sleeping bags reflected their activity as they slowly crept along due to their motions inside the bags. We marshals called them “inchworms”.
Bill Clinton’s general counsel when he ran for president, David Ifshin, was a classmate of mine running around the campus in a bandanna and Che t-shirt. What a tool. That same year he was in Hanoi with another traitor, Jane Fonda. *spit*
How are these people ever going to achieve their goals without black masks, bricks and fire?
The left is heavily populated by drug addled, over-the-hill, stinky hippies who think it is still 1964.
@sig94: That is an amazing insight into May 4. All the stuff I’ve read and heard over the years, I’ve never seen a description quite like that. Thank you for sharing it. Inchworms indeed!
I was only 12 when May 4 went down, living in a small town on the Ohio River some three hours south of Kent. It impressed me deeply, and I spent a lot of time as a lad researching the events, especially Michener’s tome. Alas, being impressionable and influenced by Life magazine and popular culture overall, I swung hard left for many years after. A May 4 presentation I gave in a class in high school in which I faulted Governor Rhodes and the ONG resulted in me getting an ‘A’ and getting my ass kicked in the hallway by a football team defensive lineman, heh.
Many years later at work someone lent me a book, I was There: What Really Went on at Kent State, by Ed Grant and Michael H. Hill. This was the first real insight I ever read, other than court hearing transcripts, concerning the event from the viewpoint of ONG members. Not the best book I ever read, but it was an eye opener for me.
Understandably, it wasn’t in the best interest of the State of Ohio or the US government to divulge information about the shooting freely, but I believe that for most people who hold strong opinions about the events that spring at KSU, they fail to take into account most if not all aspects of the experiences of the Guardsmen leading up to their involvement at Kent. Even today, at the May 4 Memorial at KSU, no regard is given to the experience of the Guardsmen in the displays and presentations.
This is something to consider as we continue into a time of leftist violence in this country. Neil Young, who wrote the song “Ohio,” penned in 1977 concerning Kent State: “Probably the most important lesson ever learned at an American place of learning.” Let’s hope, for the sake of our nation, that that lesson has not been forgotten.
Buck, and 1968 and 1972, the damned hippies still think it’s the late 60’s and early 70’s. A lot of them still have Peter Pan syndrome, they never grew up. Most of us including myself grew out of that crap a long time ago. Thank God. And one other thing about that picture above, notice that most of the men all are wearing suits and ties, but not all.
Geoff aardvark flower guy, Right on. I too noticed the tasteful garb of the likely mainly peaceful protestors. I expect that they would look at the human trash in Berkeley this week with disgust and be alarmed at the violence and filth. There comes a point when you gotta take responsibility and get a job and take care of yourself, and grow up. I was not in the military but I learned this pretty quickly on a loading dock job that started 0300 when I was 18. Loved the job, loved getting up before everyone else, loved getting a paycheck and not having to rely on my wonderful but not-rich parents. I thought I had it made. Learned some work ethic too. Unfortunately a lot of these jobs have gone to immigrants and kids don’t get the same opportunity today. I’m rambling, thanks for indulging me….
All them pictured are now tenured professors?
@flip – My dad lost his job and couldn’t help me financially so in July of 1970 (2 months after the riots) I got a job with the university campus security and worked full time as a patrol officer on midnights and went to school during the day. In August of 1974 I joined the Syracuse PD and got to know the supervisor in charge of the police intelligence section (who was the brother of one of the officers I worked with on campus).
The Intel supervisor, Sgt. Mannie Leone (now deceased), told me the campus riots on Syracuse University were due to the efforts of outside agitators. The PD had undercover cops infiltrate the meetings and saw what was happening. I worked with these cops later when I joined and have pix of them when they were undercover. You’d never know by looking at them.
That’s one of the reasons why the Chief at the time (Tom Sardino) would not send riot police on campus, also the SU admin was real nervous about having a bunch of cops beat the crap out of these rich snotty kids. We now know that these outsiders who raised hell all over the country were mainly sponsored by the KGB as discovered when the USSR broke apart 21 years later. The SU students just went along for the ride.
Instead of the KGB, now it is Soros and the globalists. Some things never change.