Equality of outcome is asinine. Everything you do to better yourself is to rise above the mediocrity of the masses. It’s human nature.
If you work really hard you deserve an unequal outcome, and it will be achieved JUSTLY.
Jordan Peterson is a very compelling speaker.
I had meant to send Fur some of his videos. He really has a multitude of great ones:
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/29825-IQ-and-The-Job-Market.html
But he really sucks you in. GREAT GREAT stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbOeO_frzvg
a huge library of videos
he covers Dostoevsky
Solzhenitsky
Tolstoy
Huxley
Nietzchse
Jung
Really heavy stuff. very insightful.
I work hard so I can live in a better neighborhood in a better part of town and have a better car that doesn’t breakdown when I’m driving through a bad neighborhood to get to my better, safer neighborhood.
What’s funny is the number of scientific facts that the “pro-science” Left has managed to make verboten for discussion – gender inequality second from the top of that list.
Sometimes we over complicate the argument.
If you and I own identical houses next door to each other on the same day, same tax base, same school district, etc.
If I do regular maintenance and repairs while you do not, If we resell at the same time will we have equal outcomes? If I landscape and maintain the grounds?
That was an incomplete thought, but you get the idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_7hCPYgXEk
Carl Jung: “God is dead and we have killed him and there is not enough water to wash away the blood”
Famous quote.
You loose your religion and it is always replaced with totalitarianism. Kind of a restatement of “people who don’t believe in God will believe anything”
His videos are a much watch. Existentialism, Nihilism, Victor Frankl, Orwell all the great minds.
Science is how things are. Religion is how to act.
Income inequality is directly proportional to effort inequality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLp7vWB0TeY
Tragedy Vs Evil
Another great video
For all their huffing and puffing about Diversity, at the very core of Leftism is the Love of Same.
First time I’ve seen that guy, he’s good.
The thing is you will never hear anyone on the left call for equality of outcomes. They’ll dance around, dissemble, call for equality in racial terms anything but equality of outcomes because they know it can’t be defended. Hell, a teenager at McD’s will understand that if you work harder then the next guy you should be compensated more. The left are tricky bastards and you do have to listen closely to what they say to determine what they actually mean.
@jpm:
Wrong.
Wrong again.
First sentence right, second sentence wrong.
Morality and ethics are how to act, and they are deducible from human nature. Those who believe God is the designer/creator of human nature may then logically propose that morality comes from God. But an honest non-believer in God, looking at the same human nature as the believer does, comes to the same understanding of right and wrong behavior.
I am not a believer in God, and I have no desire to change your belief in the moral code. Why do you, as a believer, try to deny my belief in the same moral code?
I don’t remember jpm calling out your name.
“Morality and ethics are how to act, and they are deducible from human nature.”
Are they, indeed?
“Human” nature is little different from “Armadillo” nature, or “Gorilla” nature, or “Detroit” nature, or “Chicago” nature. From the Bronze Age tribes of the Asian Steppes to the forbears of the Masai we can deduce “morality” and “ethics?” From the Scythians to the Parthians to the Hordes of Mongols Hell-bent on subduing EurAsia we can deduce “morality” and “ethics?” From the customs and practices of the African tribes described by Herodotus we can deduce “morality” and “ethics?”
I’d like to see that!
(Not trying to be an ass, but I’d really like to see that)
izlamo delenda est …
JPM — Thanks for that link to Maggie’s Farm ….. outstanding stuff! Just bookmarked the site.
I’m a fanboy now after watching that. Thanks for sharing this.
Much (if not most) irrational behavior is driven by envy. This is the prime motive for leftists and the underpinning of their ideology.
Uncle Al’s insights are as a rule, without peer. However this time, he is arguing the same thing. Religion, or should I say the Bible, is not a scientific document. It deals with strictly with morality and ethics. Rules are laid out. The characters proceed to break said rules. Disaster abounds, new, more burdensome rules are laid out, more disaster. The Bible isn’t a scientific document but it Is historical, and morality and ethics are what it covers.
It’s debatable that you, Uncle Al, don’t believe in God. If God were to appear to me, I would know he exists. If he doesn’t ever appear to you, it I unlikely that you could know whether he exists or not, if you are a hard head. So scientifically, you can either know he exists or you can’t tell. You can’t really “not believe”.