This flew under my radar. It’s an expose’ by Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse. It’s a line, a small remark that he caught Cavuto making a couple of days ago.
He was speaking with Larry Kudlow and slipped. He revealed just what makes him tick, and it’s a disdain for us, the middle class conservatives who often struggle to put good meals on the table.
Don’t confuse his remark as capitalism, or being a champion of market principles. No, he’s a champion of fixed market principles. That is not conservatism, that is not capitalism.
Story HERE.
Cavuto always rubbed me the wrong way. Never listened to him enough to know why.
Somebody wheel his soggy ass off a cliff.
I gave up the idiot box years ago. Most people are some variation of a liberal.
My BP is lower and I don’t swear at the tv anymore.
Now it’s ROKU.
I pick the topic.
Usually black and white documentaries, like where the hell went the steam locomotives in the U.K.
No I don’t really care but it sure beats politics.
Plain Jane : Same here, he’s Pretentious as hell !
I gave up the idiot box years ago. Most people are some variation of a liberal.
My BP is lower and I don’t swear at the tv anymore.
Now it’s ROKU.
I pick the topic.
Usually black and white documentaries, like where the hell did the steam locomotives in the U.K. go
No I don’t really care but it sure beats politics.
Very good article at CTH that explains a lot of what I’ve seen but didn’t understand the whys. Thanks for the link BFH.
His internet bio states he was an intern in the Carter WH and worked for PBS for 15 years.
He tries hard to betray his formative years’ philosophical leanings without success; that is plain. He reminds me, in an odd way, of Pelosi; giving off-the-cuff opinions that don’t square with the facts.
Trump refuses to go on Cavuto’s shows altho Cavuto is on both Fox and Fox Business and is a top exec and founding employee of Fox Biz.
Tells you all you need to know about Cavuto (although I do enjoy his sense of humor).
cavuto doesn’t want his rice bowl broken.
he puts his self interest above the truth.
How dare the peons fight back by electing Trump and across the pond voting to leave the EU. The elitists masks are off.
I’ve been mulling something similar but on a smaller scale lately. We have the South Portland Housing Authority, Avesta Housing and a couple of others. They promote themselves as providing “affordable housing”. That is the new term for welfare or subsidized housing.
They have controls in place that determine who pays what for rent. If you make a certain amount, say up to $28,000 you pay 30% of your gross adjusted income in rent. If you make next to nothing you pay as little as $10 per month. They also get subsidy money from the state government. The idea is to spread the cost evenly over the complexes. In other words, to even out incomes. To make everyone equally miserable and in a situation that entraps them in the lie that it’s easier for them this way.
These globalists, companies or the super wealthy and controlled economy proponents are similar. The article talks about them letting produce rot instead of releasing it to the market so that it will be more expensive for the wealthy Americans. Or the fact that they push SNAP and other government run food payment systems so that they can keep their prices up while getting government subsidies for themselves.
This is communism/socialism infesting its way into our everyday lives in ways most people don’t really think about or notice.
This is a bigly, yuge reason that it is GREAT to have Trump as POTUS. He’s ripping the masks off.
Cavuto has been marketed as a disseminator of financial news on fox for years but he is really just a mouthpiece for the internationalists. The mask is off.
In those circles its considered a passe concept to embrace patriotism and america first policies.
Whats good for them is a long way from whats good for the average american.
Hmmm … I’m not getting the bad part.
Five states in the US produce more food than the rest of the world combined (at least I remember reading that, somewhere, sometime in the past).
And that is the result of our “Gentle Giant” farming conglomerates.
We’re the only nation on Earth where the “poor” people are fat.
Sure, they shouldn’t control the world, or even a majority of our political class, but for the most part, we profit nicely from their machinations.
Do we want to return to subsistence farming?
Do we want to take on the attributes of Zimbabwe? Central Asia?
Fuck that shit.
I do admit that I don’t know enough about international food-stuff production and distribution to make an informed decision, but look around!
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@ Tim
with large international corporate food production, the international corporations manipulate the prices paid by each country to be what that country can afford.
we have fat poor people because we subsidize their eating habits.
food production owned by a monopoly is always a bad thing in the end.
“we have fat poor people because we subsidize their eating habits.”
Then all we have to do is quit subsidizing their eating habits?
Sounds like a plan. Being a big ole hog can’t be good for ya (yeah, I’m kinda fat).
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It may not be what people opposed to communism want. But it clearly is “conservatism.” It is what those who run “conservatism” want. You can join the Roman Catholic church. You can leave the Roman Catholic church. You can not claim, honestly, the Pope’s not Catholic. Just because the Pope you agreed to follow, when you joined his church, disagrees with you.
As for “capitalism”? This, by it’s very definition, is what, is the only thing, that “capitalism” is, is now, was always, and always will be. Not saying you have to be a “capitalist.” Not saying you have to be a “communist.” But if you sign up, you should expect what you’ve signed up for.
Not sure what you’re getting at. “Capitalism” isn’t a philosophy.
Marx invented “capitalism” as the bugbear against which socialism operates.
“Capitalism” is simply people doing what they want with their own money.
Socialist thought insists on rationalizing, compartmentalizing, quantifying, categorizing, systematizing, and, ultimately, centralizing every aspect of existence.
Thus, the REAL distinction is: SLAVERY vs. FREEDOM.
Multi-National corporations are not, by nature, “conservative” in that they want to “conserve” our way of life and our values, &c., because Multi-National corporations are composed of individual people who have their own beliefs and outlooks which color the corporations’ “persona” (so to speak).
So, what’s your point? A Multi-National can be colonialist (eg East India Tea Company), mercantile-ist, exploitative-ist (eg Arab and Portuguese slave trade), nationalist (eg Continental Oil), or any other brands and practices, collectively (ha ha) called “capitalist.”
And what’s the Pope got to do with it? If you accept Catholic Doctrine, you’re a Catholic – if not, then not. Catholic Doctrine isn’t some secret shit available only to the Vatican.
Please elucidate.
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@Tim April 6, 2018 at 10:21 am
The post was replying to the original (hence, no “@”). Specifically:
“That is not conservatism, that is not capitalism.”
Catholic doctrine was stood next to conservative doctrine. For the reason you (in your post) agree with. Neither you nor I (unless you happen to be the Pope) get to say what is Roman Catholic dogma. The same applies to conservative dogma. The conservatives are what they are. And this is, as it has always been, who they are.
As for capitalism. (sigh) I’ll quote:
“‘Capitalism’ isn’t a philosophy.
Marx invented ‘capitalism’ as the bugbear against which socialism operates.”
“Please elucidate.”
The claim is internally contradictory.
Soybeans prices have gone way down due to Trump’s tariff decision. I have this sickening feeling this is the beginning of the end of individual farming. Big corporations will soon take over and then Im afraid we’ll be like Russia when they took over the land and food production was no longer. Then Russia gave the land back to the citizens and are thriving again.
Other day Trump said on national TV “we love our farmers”. Well Im thinking he really doesn’t, he’s using us as a pawn. But this is our livelihood but most importantly without farmers (yes we are only 1.5% of the population) alot of jobs would be lost. We create jobs for JD, Caterpillar, IH, chemical companys like Eli Lilly, Bayer, grain elevators ADM, Bunge, Cargill, etc, etc.!! Medicine prices will skyrocket, you do know alot of medicines are made from soybeans, right? So Trumps art of the deal will make Brazil and Argentina rich. Those two countries put together produces more soybeans than the US. And here I thought he really meant it when he said “we love our farmers”. Sure, right back atcha bubba! AND Thank you Neil Cavuto you know more about the market than Trump ever could.
@FarmWife — Do you grow soybeans? The EWG Farm Sub subsidy database shows that between 1995-2016, the U.S. Gov’t (that would be taxpayers) funded soybean growers $35.6 billions. I’m not sure what the artificial price of soybeans has to do with individual farms, except that if they had not been subsidized, they would have been out of business a long time ago. Perhaps rather than relying on taxpayer subsidies to bring their soy crop to market, they should consider growing food that is not overproduced or has a market requirement. As for your comment about soy being used in medicine, I don’t believe there is any threat of not having enough to meet the demands of pharmaceutical companies, since this is not the chief reason they are grown.
@AA
The EWG money you’re referring to has grain loans in that amount which is paid back in full with INTEREST. So that is not a subsidy. Where do I go to get my back subsidies since we didnt get them. Things that are subsidized in the name of Agriculture is ethanol plants (not farmers) Snap and WIC programs (not farmers). Sorry but If you dont farm you dont understand. Yeah may the farmers SHOULD go out and of business. That’ll teach them dumb ol’ farmers.
A new perspective that we should listen to.
@FarmWife — I don’t farm, but I have many friends who do. One grows hops and mint in Idaho, another grows nearly 100 acres of produce in the Yakima valley every year, for example. These are individual farms that are not part of a co-op. The first has contracts with a large and micro-brewers and candy makers, the second drives their own produce to markets in WA, OR, and ID. They’ve been in operation for generations. My grandparents farmed 400 acres and their exports were beef and overage of alfalfa hay to their local markets. I don’t understand mid-west farming; the scale, the crops or the economics of it, except that they do grow food crops that cannot be grown in some other parts of the country and they grow for a global market. Western WA grows a sizeable grain crop, too, that is mostly cooperative and much of it is grown for export.
What I do understand is that POTUS Trump — which is what this discussion is about — is keenly aware of the plight of family farms and the economics of Main Street (family farms) versus Wall Street (global interests).
Maybe it would be a good thing to direct your concerns to Sonny Perdue at the USDA. I think he has a department set up specifically to respond to the concerns of small family farms and their sustainability. I know a 1-person beef ranch in the Cascade foothills of WA who has a small herd of 75 cattle which is USDA certified “grass fed/finished”. He’s only one of many who are expanding their herds to answer the market for organic beef products and he is getting a lot of help from the USDA in his venture. I searched out a World Commodity report which includes some recent historical data as well as current and projected data for U.S. and foreign soy production/domestic use/imports/exports. On page 28 it shows that U.S. export of soy is nearly equal to both Argentinian and Brazilian export combined.
I’m confused why subsidies would be called loans, when the gov’t also uses the terms “loans” and “grants” as well as “subsidies.”
Here’s the report I referred to: https://www.usda.gov/oce/commodity/wasde/latest.pdf
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@AA
Trust me that EWG hates farmers and those figures you sited earlier is fake as CNN. Lets say a farmers borrows up to $1million every year from the govt. Right now when we sell grain and pay on bushels hauled back to the govt the interest is low. Now its 3%. That million is in those totals that EWG reports. Its not subsidies. Its paid back to govt with interest. Try looking at this if you dont believe govt gives loans. They also loans on grain bins, land, silos, etc.
https://www.fsa.usda.gov/about-fsa/structure-and-organization/commodity-credit-corporation/current-interest-rates/index
“The claim is internally contradictory.”
The claim that capitalism isn’t a philosophy?
Or the claim that Catholic Doctrine is available to all?
From my reading of the New Testament (and I am NO expert, by any stretch of the imagination, reading neither Latin, nor Greek, nor Aramaic – relying upon, exclusively, English translations), Jesus Christ determined Catholic (Universal) Doctrine (see “The Sermon on the Mount”), not the Pope. I realize that may be a heretical point of view, but I maintain it, nonetheless.
I know it is rather late, and the pursuit of this distemper is (probably) useless, but “the unexamined life isn’t worth living” or some such rot.
If there exists some philosophical basis for capitalism which I have missed, other than: “Do what you like with your own fukkin money” please offer some titles and/or authors, as I would like to study (read) them.
Thank you for your patience.
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