Now for the typical talking points:
“What do you need a (insert any type of gun) for?”
Good question! Why do you care?
This is the dumbest line of questioning. Why do people need fancy cars? Why do people need expensive phones? You don’t make purchasing decisions based on what someone else thinks you should want. Maybe I want a machine gun, damnit.
“What about crazy people owning guns?”
They own them. You just said it.
So HOW THE HELL does it make sense for me to give up my gun? If a crazy person has a gun, then why does taking my gun away make any sense? It doesn’t.
“What if your kid was a victim?”
That would be awful. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
That said, you could use that for anything. Car crashes. Food poisoning. Swine Flu. You name it, someone COULD die from it.
“Other countries have gun control.”
Go live there.
Nice approach!
The tired old 1970’s bumper sticker=
“when guns are outlawed,only outlaws will have guns”
The gov’t has turned the objective rule that we can have firearms into a subjective rule that we can have them if they are not too dangerous.
That was the end. More gun laws every year that follow schools indoctrinating kids that guns are dangerous. If they’re dangerous, then we shouldn’t have them. The precedent has already been set.
Now we get to let four libturds and john cuck roberts decide what guns we get to own.
We gave them the rope to hang us with.
If they want to change gun laws, they need a constitutional ammendment.
You’re allowed to have Tanks, Mortars, Artillery, etc.
There’s a few hoops to jump through and taxes to pay, but once getting through them you are allowed to own almost anything (except machine guns manufactured after May of 1986 thanks to Reagan) you can afford as long as you meet the basic standards for owning a firearm.
FWIW, our Founding Fathers privately owned all sorts of artillery and battleships and such. That’s how they fought and won the revolution against Britain.
“Other countries have gun control.”
And those countries are all working on Knife Control, for some reason.
Per fed law the breech will have to be rendered inoperable on the big gun but should you possess permit to own and operate machine guns I believe you could mount those. I could be wrong. (You Tube Dragonman if you are not familiar with him)
When discussing the 2nd Amendment, Adams told Madison that he sucked at deer hunting if he needed to use a tank.
Scratch a Founding Father, you uncover a gun fanatic.
Have a look-see, if I want a tank bad enough, I can build one.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/14-years-ago-a-man-went-on-a-bulldozer-rampage-through-a-colorado-town/73-561341616
Rifles and handguns are just one kind of ‘action-at-a-distance’ weapon. There are many others – and our armed forces are increasingly using them: lasers, microwave and terahertz radiation, particle weapons, sound, etc. Not to mention missiles, various projectiles and the means of delivering them.
On the other hand. the ‘pen,’ capable of being ‘mightier than the sword,’ is another. Just look at the damage Obama did with his ‘pen and phone.’
Lemme think: pen and phone… versus… electron gun or ultrasonic brain melter? When the SHTF? I’d go with the latter to deal with totalitarian Democrats. But if Democrats decide to become sane again (as if they ever were, really), I’ll keep mine locked away in a safe place. 🙂
Colonel George Mason became the principal author of the Virginia Declaration of Rights (1776) that established the militia clause as a fundamental right based on 3 English rights: the right to revolution, the right to group self-preservation, and the right to self-defense.
He wrote:
“That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.”
Pretty sure Col. Mason would agree with me that Jesse Kelly is a mental midget.
Bernie believes that we don’t “need” so many choices. Why do we “need” 50 different kinds of deodorant, or 112 toothpaste options? Better to give the government the power to decide such questions for you. You might choose the wrong deodorant. But when the government allows just one choice, you can’t go wrong! Thanks, Bernie! Now I can spend more time working to pay taxes so that you can decide how I should be allowed to live.
The left can’t mentally grasp that the Constitution wasn’t written by the gov’t.
When the people end up having to take our government back out of the hands of the over taking elites, we will need every weapon we can get our hands on.
Gun control?
Then it’s a fight with the unarmed man against the government+terrorists. No thanks.
BTW, 1 and a half billion live in China right now. If those people (minus the gov and police) were armed, do you think that general secretary of the commie party FOR LIFE Xi Ping Pong would still have his job? No. China wouldn’t be China. It would be Hong Kong (with a bill of rights).
“It would be Hong Kong (with a bill of rights).” -MJA
Which is exactly why “Xi Ping Pong” (LOL) thinks he has to crush Hong Kong – or the Chinese Communists ultimately lose power.
In ’87 + ’88 Jefferson + Franklin toured America to push ratification. Tom repeatedly said the 2nd was the most important; because without it none of the rest would be enforced. Tom said citizens should be able to have same weapons govt had. Dr. Franklin said, Tom is a little nebulous. Let me be specific, Govt has cannon; citizens should have cannon!
A Torry “reporter” asked President Washington, “What do you think about the radical Dr. Franklin?” Our smart, eloquent President responded. “A WELL ARMED MAN IS A CITIZEN; AN UNARMED MAN IS A SUBJECT!”! Mots people have some knowledge of Washington;’s stmt. But very few know what provoked it.
PS
Not penny of taxpayer money was spent on this! Jefferson paid for his and Dr. Franklin’s bills!
I need a tank to protect myself from folk like Mueller! Both Washington, + Franklin were/are right!
One M1 Abrams tank costs maybe $10 million? Each round costs $$. If you can afford that much for one firearm go buy one.
If the government is going to show up on my doorstep to wrongly (illegally/immorally) arrest me, then I should have equal or greater fire power.
If they are going to show up with an M-16, then the Second Amendment allows me to have an M-16.
This argument also blows up (pun intended) the absurd statement about nuclear weapons. The government is not going to show up on my doorstep with a nuclear weapon.
They might show up in an MREP, well then the Second allows me that.
Would they show up in an M1 Abrams? If so, then yep. Kindly place it in my back yard thank you very much.
No permit required you filthy liberal scum.
Remember, the Shot Heard Around the World was because the British were going to wrongly arrest a few guys and confiscate a whole lot of arms: including the town cannon.
THE TOWN HAD A FRICKIN’ CANON.
Thus my M1 Abrams comparison is legit.
The left can shove their “muskets only” up their musket hole (with the attachable chainsaw bayonet attached).
I’m tired of conservative talking heads and politicians (Trump included) skirting the issue on gun control. The real issue is that the GOVERNMENTS BECOME TYRANNICAL AND START TO KILL THEIR CITIZENS. They have to start making this point or else they will keep compromising with the commies who WILL start killing people who won’t go along with their insanity. It’s not as if there isn’t enough historical proof to back up this position.
Absolutely! According to the Constitution Militia’s are military and every able bodied American citizen has the right to form and belong to a militia, even a militia of one! Some years ago the City Commissioners in a major city passed a law declaring that every able bodied male over the age of 21 was automatically a member of that city’s militia! The law is still on the books!
Militia artillery and private ships with cannon and “Letters of Marque” were all involved in our Revolution.
I wonder what the nutty Lefters would say to a 106mm
recoiless rifle or a private PT boat?
It’s the pesky line, “…shall not be infringed…” that keeps me biting my teeth. Our rights are already infringed and we just keep accepting those (and new) infringements. Anyone who feels strongly about protecting their rights is deemed a lunatic or terrorist and shot like a rabid dog. We will ultimately be disarmed and made “subjects”. Once you give up something, you will never get it back.
“Speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act.” Geo. Orwell
“… be allowed to …” is the operative phrase.
“Allowed” by whom?
Once you ask what is allowed you have ceded that right.
Once that (any) power is ceded it cannot be regained except through force.
“… power grows out of the barrel of a gun …” is the way Mao put it – just before he outlawed private ownership of guns.
The fact has been known for thousands of years – it is only the weakened festering slaves who debate it. Those “in power” smile and wink.
izlamo delenda est …
The government has an obligation to fund and arm the militias since they are considered by the Constitution to be the backbone of the military and are both needed and necessary to assure peace and security to a free and independent nation!
Yes, machine guns and bombers and any thing the curt military can use AGAINST us —that was it’s or intent. I have always interpreted it that way.
Here’s another one:
Things are different now. The Constitution was written in the 1780s. Citizens only had single-shot smooth bore muskets back then…
So did the military.
Here is my next vehicle.
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/27/22744b1e-27ea-51c1-b149-fbc0af2ffff0/5632a74e10015.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800
Maybe I should start a Go-Fund-Me page… 😉
PS. Fur, I had to check out who wrote that article. Could have been YOU.
The sword and every terrible implement of the soldier is the birthright of an American…..Tench Cox
Anybody remember the movie “Harry’s War”? (1981) Edward Herrmann played the hero who went to “war” with the IRS. HE had a tank. Pretty funny movie. Good luck trying to find a copy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVtl4HExhzY
Crew served weapons are considered ordnance, not arms.
We are allowed to own tanks (no working weapon systems), Fighter jets (again no working weapon systems), and semi auto based machine guns (with a proper tax stamp full auto).