31 Comments on The Old “Paying Fines With Coins” Trick
I had a paper route customer who always paid his bill when I went to collect the $2 a month bill from him (this was back in the mid 60’s) with a roll of nickels, 40 nickels to a roll.
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She should be fired. But he should keep his hard currency for the future black market.
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He has paid and there is no further obligation on his part
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If you’ve ever received a bill from any government agency that specified a fractional dollar amount, by their own demand they acknowledge the existence of money in less than dollar amounts. As the government, they manufacture and distribute into commerce these fractional units, usually in the form of metallic coins.
It’s literally their money which they will remind you of very quickly if you try to manufacture your own.
They just don’t want the inconvenience of handling coins. And if you insist on inconveniencing them, they will employ brinkmanship, and really inconvenience you.
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I remember reading years ago that buried in the arcane depths of state legal tender laws were provisions making it legal to refuse payments greater than (I don’t remember) dollars offered in pennies and nickels. This was when dimes and up were 90% silver. Those may well still be on the books.
Funny thing, though. For a while after silver coins disappeared and the worthless sandwich coins took over, and pennies were still made out of copper instead of plated zinc, it was the pennies and nickels that had intrinsic metallic value. Now it doesn’t matter because the purchasing power of the dollar is so damned low it’s hard to justify the expense of minting small change.
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It’s not her decision whether to take the ticket money as coins or not.
It’s all legal tender.
Take it.
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money is money, do your job and accept it. no gun was against your temple when you took the job
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He should’ve paid the $60 with 30 $2 bills which is legal tender. I wonder how much confusion that that would make. Do they even print $2 bills anymore?
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@ geoff the aardvark THURSDAY, 28 SEPTEMBER 2023, 14:35 AT 2:35 PM
My mother used to give me any $2 bills she got. She passed away and I have the last $2 bill she gave me in my wallet. I have to remind the kids that if any of them take that $2 bill out of my wallet I will bust their ass.
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Force feed her the money until she bursts. Fuck all of these scumbag gubbment subhumans. You serve us.
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You can (and should) do the same thing with taxes. Take advantage of zero commission platforms. There’s trading programs out there that will get you in and out of trades at break-even, so it doesn’t cost anything. You can generate hundreds or thousands of these trades per day. Then insist on paper filing (no electronic filing). Be sure to mix in your actual income with all the break-even trades, so someone has to go through every single page to verify income. Deliver your taxes in banker boxes on pallets to the IRS.
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Yes, $2 bills are still being printed. I use them all the time, primarily for tips. When I go to my bank, I ask if they have any and maybe one time out of five they do and are glad to get rid of them.
I particularly like them because they bear the likeness of Thomas Jefferson.
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He is an idiot for shoving all the loose coins onto her desk. Leave it in a container would be fine, even if a paper bag.
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There was a period in the Roman Empire when Rome wouldn’t accept Roman money in payment of taxes – it had been devalued so often that they demanded gold and silver.
Looks like we’re headed in the same direction.
mortem tyrannis
izlamo delenda est …
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Legal tender is legal tender. Next.
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Legal tender, yes.
Common courtesy, no. He could have used coin wrappers to pay instead of being an ass. I think he was grinding his axe against the wrong people.
IMHO.
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People who do that (pay with Pennies )are assholes. If you don’t like the crime, don’t do the crime. Many cities have an ordinance that prohibits it.
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Fine not crime^^^
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Having said that, a more creative way to handle the imbecile would be to have him count it out in front of her. If he could.
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Saddest of sad thoughts — the same woman doing the same job behind the same counter forty years from now.
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And then, after accepting the coins, shout out “Holy crap…it’s a 1944 steel penny worth $10,000!!!
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If inflation keeps going the mint is going to have start printing $500 and $1000 bills. Welcome to Zimbabwe.
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Took a couple of jars worth of coins to the local supermarket,even with the 12% mark up i still got $320.00
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Want more trouble than you need? Fill out you 1040 in Roman numerals. Good times!
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I don’t know about all coins but, while pennies are definitely “legal tender”, no one can forced to accept them. Weird, huh? Which brings up the question, if pennies are no good, why does our government continue to mint them, especially at the cost of nearly three cents each?
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If it’s legal tender then they have no business refusing it. If they were smart they would only give him the receipt after they’ve counted it. He’d have to stand there until it was all counted.
Coins are not legal tender.
You can refuse it.
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I should have said: Coins are not legal tender in the U.S..
Didn’t know Australia went bonkers saying they are.
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“It all spends the same.” Just about every single time, when I’m at the flea market, and I mention I have a buck in change to go towards an item, that’s the response I get. Oh yeah, and “Money’s money”, get the one too.
I’m holding on to my coins and spending the paper.
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This is Australia where people are NOT citizens. They are SUBJECTS. And they have NO RIGHTS.
I had a paper route customer who always paid his bill when I went to collect the $2 a month bill from him (this was back in the mid 60’s) with a roll of nickels, 40 nickels to a roll.
She should be fired. But he should keep his hard currency for the future black market.
He has paid and there is no further obligation on his part
If you’ve ever received a bill from any government agency that specified a fractional dollar amount, by their own demand they acknowledge the existence of money in less than dollar amounts. As the government, they manufacture and distribute into commerce these fractional units, usually in the form of metallic coins.
It’s literally their money which they will remind you of very quickly if you try to manufacture your own.
They just don’t want the inconvenience of handling coins. And if you insist on inconveniencing them, they will employ brinkmanship, and really inconvenience you.
I remember reading years ago that buried in the arcane depths of state legal tender laws were provisions making it legal to refuse payments greater than (I don’t remember) dollars offered in pennies and nickels. This was when dimes and up were 90% silver. Those may well still be on the books.
Funny thing, though. For a while after silver coins disappeared and the worthless sandwich coins took over, and pennies were still made out of copper instead of plated zinc, it was the pennies and nickels that had intrinsic metallic value. Now it doesn’t matter because the purchasing power of the dollar is so damned low it’s hard to justify the expense of minting small change.
It’s not her decision whether to take the ticket money as coins or not.
It’s all legal tender.
Take it.
money is money, do your job and accept it. no gun was against your temple when you took the job
He should’ve paid the $60 with 30 $2 bills which is legal tender. I wonder how much confusion that that would make. Do they even print $2 bills anymore?
@ geoff the aardvark THURSDAY, 28 SEPTEMBER 2023, 14:35 AT 2:35 PM
My mother used to give me any $2 bills she got. She passed away and I have the last $2 bill she gave me in my wallet. I have to remind the kids that if any of them take that $2 bill out of my wallet I will bust their ass.
Force feed her the money until she bursts. Fuck all of these scumbag gubbment subhumans. You serve us.
You can (and should) do the same thing with taxes. Take advantage of zero commission platforms. There’s trading programs out there that will get you in and out of trades at break-even, so it doesn’t cost anything. You can generate hundreds or thousands of these trades per day. Then insist on paper filing (no electronic filing). Be sure to mix in your actual income with all the break-even trades, so someone has to go through every single page to verify income. Deliver your taxes in banker boxes on pallets to the IRS.
Yes, $2 bills are still being printed. I use them all the time, primarily for tips. When I go to my bank, I ask if they have any and maybe one time out of five they do and are glad to get rid of them.
I particularly like them because they bear the likeness of Thomas Jefferson.
He is an idiot for shoving all the loose coins onto her desk. Leave it in a container would be fine, even if a paper bag.
There was a period in the Roman Empire when Rome wouldn’t accept Roman money in payment of taxes – it had been devalued so often that they demanded gold and silver.
Looks like we’re headed in the same direction.
mortem tyrannis
izlamo delenda est …
Legal tender is legal tender. Next.
Legal tender, yes.
Common courtesy, no. He could have used coin wrappers to pay instead of being an ass. I think he was grinding his axe against the wrong people.
IMHO.
People who do that (pay with Pennies )are assholes. If you don’t like the crime, don’t do the crime. Many cities have an ordinance that prohibits it.
Fine not crime^^^
Having said that, a more creative way to handle the imbecile would be to have him count it out in front of her. If he could.
Saddest of sad thoughts — the same woman doing the same job behind the same counter forty years from now.
And then, after accepting the coins, shout out “Holy crap…it’s a 1944 steel penny worth $10,000!!!
If inflation keeps going the mint is going to have start printing $500 and $1000 bills. Welcome to Zimbabwe.
Took a couple of jars worth of coins to the local supermarket,even with the 12% mark up i still got $320.00
Want more trouble than you need? Fill out you 1040 in Roman numerals. Good times!
I don’t know about all coins but, while pennies are definitely “legal tender”, no one can forced to accept them. Weird, huh? Which brings up the question, if pennies are no good, why does our government continue to mint them, especially at the cost of nearly three cents each?
If it’s legal tender then they have no business refusing it. If they were smart they would only give him the receipt after they’ve counted it. He’d have to stand there until it was all counted.
Coins are not legal tender.
You can refuse it.
I should have said: Coins are not legal tender in the U.S..
Didn’t know Australia went bonkers saying they are.
“It all spends the same.” Just about every single time, when I’m at the flea market, and I mention I have a buck in change to go towards an item, that’s the response I get. Oh yeah, and “Money’s money”, get the one too.
I’m holding on to my coins and spending the paper.
This is Australia where people are NOT citizens. They are SUBJECTS. And they have NO RIGHTS.