I am Native -American. This was a tough pill to swallow for me when I 1st saw it. It made me mad but I realized… the white dude was right. And regardless of race humans need to stop being hypocrites. Native-Americans are not "noble savages". We're just human like everyone else.
— The BOGGART (@HNilbog) October 6, 2023
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I’ve been curious of late as to why white people are invaders who don’t belong here, yet nonwhites from anywhere on the planet are welcomed as if it is their birthright.
The difference is the way they fought for land. The natives fought each other with honor. The U.S. Government fought them by lying, exposing them to deadly viruses, and destroying their food supply. Just like they are doing to us right now.
Everyone came from somewhere else. And not necessarily nicely, either, when there were others already there. That is the history of the world. Deal with it.
Multiple different “native” tribes in the Americas and every other continent on Earth have warred with and displaced other tribes.
(By the way, when are the pro-Palestinian Muslims going to advocate to give Medina back to the Jews who founded it?)
# refuse/resist
Ultimately, you are arguing tactics and style.
War is war no matter how it’s fought. That’s why we can see the war on white people now for what it is. Just because they have a style and tactic that is couched in soft language “that is totally logical”, doesn’t mean it’s not a real war on white people’s existence.
Get it?
They lost a war just like white people today will lose a war they are entranced to sit still for unless they wake up.
Europeans acquired this land perfectly legally using the same real estate transfer protocol the previous inhabitants used; conquest. The only message of lasting importance is there is no honor in dawdling about in the Neolithic when the late Renaissance shows up.
A wise man once said: It’s a republic if you can keep it” implying that there is someone always trying to take it away. You best be prepared at all times. It never changes no matter where on Earth you are!
NAGA sues the Washington Commanders for changing the Redskins name.
Read how the Indians stole each others’ land for centuries. Read how the Indians tortured other Indians as sadistic theater.
Rousseau could talk about noble savages because he’d never seen an Iroquois or Comanche war party at work.
PS The American Indian genome has been shown to be 3/4 Asian and 1/4 European. They came here from someplace else, too.
Never refuse/resist to accept the truth.
Seems like they’d do a lot better today if they could sober up and stop being communist.
EXACTLY!
Italy was built on Rome
Which was built on the Etruscans
The Greeks were self warring until it came down to Sparta & Athens.
and then there’s that continent of Africa.
TRF, that quote you cited was from Benjamin Franklin. I am currently rereading books about the American Revolution and the founding of our nation. I will finish rereading John Adams by David McCullough in a few days. The John Adams miniseries that HBO did about 15 years or so ago is an excellent story about our founding as a nation under the rule of law, but unfortunately, we have strayed far from that now with our current corrupt government. I want our govt. to still be a republic and not a democracy ruled by the mob if we can God help us keep it as a republic.
Is that Shaun Johnston from the Canadian series, ‘Heartland’? Dang, Grandpa Jack is spitting some truth there.
refuse/resist: “The difference is the way they fought for land. The natives fought each other with honor. ”
If you know ANYTHING about history, you know that this is utter bullshit. Just as the Army officer in this clip says, the American Indians were every bit as ruthless, brutal, and inhuman in their own dealings with each other as any other race of people at war. Slavery, rape, murder, torture and mutilation, even cannibalism and human sacrifice — two customs that even the whites didn’t partake in — are soaked into their history. Saying that they “fought with honor” is just perpetuating that noble savage bullshit.
Like I always said, giving indians sovereignty was stupid. Could never get much agreement.
“adapt and take ground” is the rule, just as the invaders from the south prepare to make war on civil america. the transfer of wealth has been going on for thousands of years. peacetime is temporary as mankind always embraces the natural state of self destruction. man must live by a moral code to survive in peace. every moral effort (government) known to man is a failed experiment. think it was the romans who went the longest, but much of that time was stricken with war, turmoil and grief for its people. get ready for the reset as our leaders turn away from god (moral code) and embrace self destruction. i believe it has happened many times in history. man is just too stupid to make permanent correction. its like watching a monkey starve to death holding onto a bannana through a hole in a box and refuses to let go.
“The natives fought each other with honor…”
With rapes, burnings, rocks, sharp sticks, infanticide…
Why did some indian tribes join with the “evil white devils” to fight other tribes?
I guess the Inuit must give Greenland back to Denmark because the Vikings were there first?
🎵 Give Ireland back to the Irish 🎵
🎵 Give Lapland back to the Laps 🎵
🎵 Give China back to the Chinese 🎵
🎵 Give Yoko back to the Japs. 🎵
Erik: It’s noble when they do it.
Dr. Tar: The situation with the Indians can probably be compared to how the welfare system destroyed the black family — the government led them by the hand down a path of despair. There are certain people with power who reap the benefits while most of the people are left in poverty. Look at what the Democrats want to do to the American people. It’s the same thing the government did to the Indians.
In Canada, the powers that be are always citing the native lands we inhabit. They do it at the beginning of council meetings, they do it before church services.
I have always felt it is just more worthless virtue signaling, but that’s just me….
Michener wrote a book called The Source. It detailed a fictional history covering thousands of years of a simple natural water well near Jerusalem. Beyond brutal, the extreme violence, politics and religion to control one region’s resource.
He pulls no punches. The same can be said about his history of the Caribbean.
Some might be offended, which makes me wager he did his research and wrote the books without asking if it might nurt anyone’s feelings.
@HooHooNayNay
I have not read Michener’s book, but it sounds like an accurate portrayal, although a novel, of why wars happen, right up to this minute.
IMO, it’s always been a fight over resources, usually material resources that are necessary for life. Two bands, even from the same race or religion, will fight each other over access to a well, or control of rich farmland, or mineral wealth in the ground.
Today, information assets could be a reason for war, although they are not material assets. That’s one new thing people will probably struggle over.
Fighting over a resource that is necessary for life itself is at least understandable, if your tribe will die without it.
The war between Israel and Hamas is exactly over control of a small bit of territory, formerly called Palestine, now called Israel. Also, Germany’s desire for “living space” in their war against the Soviet Union 1941-45.
This is all just my personal opinion.
If your civilization exists for thousands of years and fails to invent so much as the wheel, don’t be surprised if people with guns, cannons, ships and steam engines arrive and kick your ass. I have respect for Native American people, but the BS about them all being honorable, peace loving, homogenous, spiritual children of nature irks me. They lived like savages because they never progressed as a culture. If America was still yet to be discovered, they would still be living as savages. Some cultures progress and others do not.