Who was driving that container ship??? Blind melon chitlin?
FJB
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Pretty light traffic on a city bridge, even for 2 AM. Very lucky.
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Apparently the ship was losing power intermittently and had no control as a result. You can see that they got the engine going again full bore just before impact and were probably trying to slow down.
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Horrific. How was this kind of engineering mess even possible? Something else contributed?
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TV video looked like the ship struck above the pier and took out the supporting structure.
Will ISIS (CIA) take credit?
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More Democrat destruction of our critical infrastructure?
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Is it too early to possibly speculate that this bridge collapse might possibly be an act of deliberate terrorism? Or was it just a huge mistake?
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DEI, Terrorism, or Captain Morgan on the Rocks?
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This is a transport logistics disaster!
That’s a MAJOR transport route for the east coast.
There are alternates, but they are already overwhelmed with traffic. The west side beltway 695 has massive reconstruction efforts already underway that are seriously impeding traffic.
The 95 and 295 tunnels were already a constant traffic mess.
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Nice bridge you got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it.
Probably poor maintenance due to DEI. Meanwhile in the Mediterranean , we are building an elaborate pier so we can give free stuff to the terrorists.
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I dunno… after Moscow, this event seems to be mighty suspect. Video shows the ship going lights out just before striking the bridge. i would think a vessel that large would have backup power sources galore. And it happens at the very worst possible moment in its voyage.
Holding judgement, praying for the victims, but it smells pretty fucky to me.
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You donβt usually see a simultaneous collapse along the whole length, but there was no evidence of explosions from timed demolition. Weird.
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@Tony
Look at the aerial view. That ship was MASSIVE and completely overloaded with cargo containers. The basic physics of it is F=MA – the forces of the impact were way more than that pier was ever designed to withstand. It’s a truss bridge, which relies on all those beams above the road interacting amongst themselves to be in compression to support the weight. Any disturbance of the loading on those beams immediately stresses the joints in ways they were never engineered to withstand.
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@ 08:37: …go down town, play my song, show her my…
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I read that there was construction going on at that time (1:30 AM) so the traffic was minimal. You can see the construction trucks with flashing lights. I pray for those construction workers who obviously fell with the bridge.
If it had occurred during this mornings rush hour hundreds of people would have perished.
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Galloping Gertie AKA known as the Tacoma narrows bridge when it collapsed in the 1940’s has nothing on this total bridge collapse in Baltimore. I wouldn’t want to be a commuter in Baltimore right now.
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prayers for the Coasties doing SAR in the AO
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This is going to be a problem for years to come. I wonder how much in emergency infrastructure spending the democrats are going to insist we need to do immediately. This will probably be good for at least another trillion on the deficit and fund all kinds of additional boondoggles that only benefit urban democrats.
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If Build Back Better was a bridge.
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Jethro
TUESDAY, 26 MARCH 2024, 9:17 AT 9:17 AM
You are correct. I actually read the Wikipedia story after I posted my comment. I didnβt realize it was the ship hitting the support columns that caused the collapse. You would have thought there would be better impact protection for such a critical structural component. Or maybe pilot tugs .
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@Jethro:
The basic physics of it is F=MA
There wasn’t much acceleration going on there. Respectfully, wouldn’t the useful calculation be Kinetic Energy=(mass*velocityΒ²)/2?
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@Uncle Al
It was deceleration.
I didn’t want to complicate the situation with energy, momentum, etc. to spare those who are not engineers and physicists.
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Tony R – I’m no engineer, but I’ve watched enough “Engineering Disasters” shows to know that these folks like to build at the edge of functionality in order to be creative and innovative, and “resilient” is rarely on the agenda. I guarantee that within a decade there will be an episode on this incident and the focus will be on the vulnerability of the piers supporting it. I have seen several bridge collapse episodes in which poor pier construction or poor pier protection were the key factors. Targeted terrorism by democrats is never cited, but that was never the concern it is today.
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@Jethro — Aha! Now I get it. Thanks! (-:
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God bless and help all those that fell into the river, that they may be safe and rescued.
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Must be Russia hacking the ship through it’s Internet connected systems. That or MAGA affiliated captain shouting, ‘this is MAGA country’.
Mystery solved: the ship maintenance was done by Boeing
The magnitude of a is small, but the mass is Yuge! The integral of force through a distance equals energy, which in this case equals the kinetic energy of the ship, one half MV squared, assuming the ship comes to a complete stop. All is heat.
Logic. QED.
NOT an accident.
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Just a machinist here, but that bridge did not collapse at logical stress points. When we watched this morning for the first time I told the wife, no Fing way.
Videos can be doctored. But I just watched one in slow motion that showed charges going off. I’m not sayen that’s what happened. But it does make a lot of sense in regards to the way the thing came down.
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The collapse is a metaphor of what’s happening to society over the last 3.5 years.
Who was driving that container ship??? Blind melon chitlin?
FJB
Pretty light traffic on a city bridge, even for 2 AM. Very lucky.
Apparently the ship was losing power intermittently and had no control as a result. You can see that they got the engine going again full bore just before impact and were probably trying to slow down.
Horrific. How was this kind of engineering mess even possible? Something else contributed?
TV video looked like the ship struck above the pier and took out the supporting structure.
Will ISIS (CIA) take credit?
More Democrat destruction of our critical infrastructure?
Is it too early to possibly speculate that this bridge collapse might possibly be an act of deliberate terrorism? Or was it just a huge mistake?
DEI, Terrorism, or Captain Morgan on the Rocks?
This is a transport logistics disaster!
That’s a MAJOR transport route for the east coast.
There are alternates, but they are already overwhelmed with traffic. The west side beltway 695 has massive reconstruction efforts already underway that are seriously impeding traffic.
The 95 and 295 tunnels were already a constant traffic mess.
Nice bridge you got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it.
Probably poor maintenance due to DEI. Meanwhile in the Mediterranean , we are building an elaborate pier so we can give free stuff to the terrorists.
I dunno… after Moscow, this event seems to be mighty suspect. Video shows the ship going lights out just before striking the bridge. i would think a vessel that large would have backup power sources galore. And it happens at the very worst possible moment in its voyage.
Holding judgement, praying for the victims, but it smells pretty fucky to me.
You donβt usually see a simultaneous collapse along the whole length, but there was no evidence of explosions from timed demolition. Weird.
@Tony
Look at the aerial view. That ship was MASSIVE and completely overloaded with cargo containers. The basic physics of it is F=MA – the forces of the impact were way more than that pier was ever designed to withstand. It’s a truss bridge, which relies on all those beams above the road interacting amongst themselves to be in compression to support the weight. Any disturbance of the loading on those beams immediately stresses the joints in ways they were never engineered to withstand.
@ 08:37: …go down town, play my song, show her my…
I read that there was construction going on at that time (1:30 AM) so the traffic was minimal. You can see the construction trucks with flashing lights. I pray for those construction workers who obviously fell with the bridge.
If it had occurred during this mornings rush hour hundreds of people would have perished.
Galloping Gertie AKA known as the Tacoma narrows bridge when it collapsed in the 1940’s has nothing on this total bridge collapse in Baltimore. I wouldn’t want to be a commuter in Baltimore right now.
prayers for the Coasties doing SAR in the AO
This is going to be a problem for years to come. I wonder how much in emergency infrastructure spending the democrats are going to insist we need to do immediately. This will probably be good for at least another trillion on the deficit and fund all kinds of additional boondoggles that only benefit urban democrats.
If Build Back Better was a bridge.
Jethro
TUESDAY, 26 MARCH 2024, 9:17 AT 9:17 AM
You are correct. I actually read the Wikipedia story after I posted my comment. I didnβt realize it was the ship hitting the support columns that caused the collapse. You would have thought there would be better impact protection for such a critical structural component. Or maybe pilot tugs .
@Jethro:
There wasn’t much acceleration going on there. Respectfully, wouldn’t the useful calculation be
Kinetic Energy=(mass*velocityΒ²)/2?
@Uncle Al
It was deceleration.
I didn’t want to complicate the situation with energy, momentum, etc. to spare those who are not engineers and physicists.
Tony R – I’m no engineer, but I’ve watched enough “Engineering Disasters” shows to know that these folks like to build at the edge of functionality in order to be creative and innovative, and “resilient” is rarely on the agenda. I guarantee that within a decade there will be an episode on this incident and the focus will be on the vulnerability of the piers supporting it. I have seen several bridge collapse episodes in which poor pier construction or poor pier protection were the key factors. Targeted terrorism by democrats is never cited, but that was never the concern it is today.
@Jethro — Aha! Now I get it. Thanks! (-:
God bless and help all those that fell into the river, that they may be safe and rescued.
Must be Russia hacking the ship through it’s Internet connected systems. That or MAGA affiliated captain shouting, ‘this is MAGA country’.
Mystery solved: the ship maintenance was done by Boeing
The magnitude of a is small, but the mass is Yuge! The integral of force through a distance equals energy, which in this case equals the kinetic energy of the ship, one half MV squared, assuming the ship comes to a complete stop. All is heat.
Logic. QED.
NOT an accident.
Just a machinist here, but that bridge did not collapse at logical stress points. When we watched this morning for the first time I told the wife, no Fing way.
Videos can be doctored. But I just watched one in slow motion that showed charges going off. I’m not sayen that’s what happened. But it does make a lot of sense in regards to the way the thing came down.
The collapse is a metaphor of what’s happening to society over the last 3.5 years.