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  2. I loved hearing the first email Charlie sent to reach out to Frank Turek. I’m very sad he lost his “4th son” in this way. It’s a terrible thing to lose a child. God bless him.

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  8. “Of course, we had to try”.

    …this should be graven on the heartz, the minds, the souls of every first responder, every cop, every firefighter, every EMT, every paramedic. every doctor, every type of nurse, and indeed any human being who is in a position to be a “Good Sam” and perhaps save a life.

    Not just the life of the victim, but all the lives that person touched.

    And its not just a duty we all owe our fellow man.

    We owe it to our Lord.

    “Of course, we had to try”.

    …this is not a happy place. I have been in situations where I was fairly confident the person on the floor had, in fact, been called home, but it was not my call to make. I and those trained like me would do no less than our best in the absence of anything but the most catastrophic of injuries or the presence of rigor or other long-dead signs. Duty and oath, yes, but also that none of us wanted to have to look in the eyes of a wife, a mother, a father a grandparent or child and say anything other than “We did everything we could” and MEAN it.

    I would not want to face the Lord with a lie about that.

    ..on another level, some things are done for the benefit of the relatives. I dont know if this is still a rule, but in my time a SIDS baby – the “D” is for Death, so the child is deceased when found, sometimes obvioulsly so – was, even DESPITE rigor, REQUIRED to recieve CPR even though it was completely useless.

    This was for the sanity of the MOTHER, not the unreachable child. And yes, I had an actually WORSE version of this after a mother used her lap baby for an airbag in a car crash, but different story for another day.

    And I get this guy on a personal level too.

    My son has had some mental health issues. One time, during a family gathering, he chose to go in his room and slit his wrists, By the grace of God he was found by my wife’s cousin, a woman who had just lost HER adult son to a brain issue after a fruitless resucitation effort, but who ALSO was herself a former paramedic and current nurse. She called me, my wife got my bag, we each took a wrist and bound em up and ambulanced him off.

    Training and experience aside, its different when its your OWN.

    MUCH different.

    I could at least comparmentalize, fall back on my training, and have the freak out later. Frank Turek could not, and still I think did incredibly well in the situation at hand. My heart goes out to him, and I pray the Lord grants him the mercy of being able to forget some things he saw that awful day.

    Especially the eyes.

    But THOSE are REALLY hard to forget.

    Let us pray.

    May the Lord touch this man, those who travelled with him that awful day, and all those who were suddenly forced to rise to an impossible situation by an unspeakable act of evil. May He calm their minds, dim their memories, and let them know that their Charlie is with Him now. May He send His Comfortor to them with the Blessed Assurance that all they did was not in vain, and that they will be reunited with Charlie before the Lord in His good time, where beyond the grave there is more than memory, and that they will look upon each other in the light of the Lord and be glad.

    We ask this all in the merciful name of Jesus, amen.

    God Bless,
    SNS

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  9. …one more thing about the transport part.

    I am NOT a fan of chucking a guy in a car and busting hell-for-leather for the hospital due to the EXTREME risk to everyone IN the car and everyone in the OTHER cars they can potentially HIT. I understand it, but if you end up in a smouldering heap at a 4 way stop, yoyre not helping ANYONE.

    …that said, they were RIGHT to NOT try to engage with the ambulance. The ambulance would have no way of knowing why they wanted them to stop, and may even have been on a completely different call with another pt on board. Any mid-road transfer would have been chaotic, and would have been unlikely to change the outcome.

    …all THAT said, why wasnt there an ambulace already AT the speech?

    The muni service I ran with provided a crew and squad for a LOT of public events. Kid’s football games, fireworks displays, festivals, just about every planned event expected to draw a crowd, we had a unit RIGHT THERE because you get a couple hundred people together for ANYTHING, a FEW are going to have issues.

    And the Kirk thing was HIGH HAZARD, and the University KNEW it.

    So WHY WASNT AN AMBULANCE ALREADY THERE?

    …I am NOT sure it would have made a difference.

    But it COULD have improved the ODDS.

    Were I his widow’s lawyer, I would question THIS.

    Having an ambulace on standby SHOULD have been a REQUIREMENT to permit the event.

    NOT having an ambulace there seems like a Dereliction of Duty.

    Or willful neglegence…

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  12. I pulled a 4 yr stint at Ft Bragg and I knew from the first vid I saw that Kirk had no chance of surviving

    First clue. Blood exploded out of his left carotid artery. That signified that the artery wasn’t just cut, but vaporized. No chance of surviving that

    Second clue: I learned this from Twitter. Someone who claimed a background as an ER doctor said Charlie’s instant physical reaction meant the bullet had also cut the spinal cord between Cervical 2 and Cervical 3, which meant no neural signal to the lungs and heart to keep doing their function

    Either one of those wounds are are almost instantly fatal. Nothing could have been

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  13. Callmelennie
    Thursday, 18 September 2025, 11:13 at 11:13 am

    “First clue. Blood exploded out of his left carotid artery. That signified that the artery wasnā€™t just cut, but vaporized. No chance of surviving that”

    …that is what you’d get from that video and we now know you are 100% correct, but at the time there was some question as to whether the blood was AI generated or not.

    AI makes us question EVERYTHING we see and hear…

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  15. Claudia
    Thursday, 18 September 2025, 14:18 at 2:18 pm
    “SNS,

    The people on site saw the blood as it was, whether they knew what it meant or not.”

    Absolutely. But us Monday morning quarterbacks couldnt tell.

    And I think thats the purpose of AI.

    To maximize confusion and make it impossible to know what to believe.

    And as far as folks there, to go by Mr. Turek’s account, there were NO medically trained personnel there, a HUGE oversight given tensions he already knew about and the size of his crowds.

    But even HAD there been, they STILL would have tried.

    For reasons Ive stated above, but also for this;

    It is a national figure on a broadcast stage surrounded by a possibly hostile crowd.

    If you did NOTHING, you WILL get judged by media very quickly, and maybe also attacked by the crowd right there.

    You need to get him off the stage and away from the crowd, and not let his TRUE condition be known to prevent IMMEDIATE violence before the crowd disperses. It could have EASILY become a riot.

    …and also, its nice to let his WIDOW to know he’s definitivelt gone before anyone ELSE.

    I think she deserves at least that…

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