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California Will Pay Burger Flippers 20 Bucks an Hour

Thursday, 28 September 2023, 20:11 BFH Uncategorized 42

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A new law in California will raise the minimum wage for fast-food workers to $20 per hour next year, an acknowledgment from the state’s Democratic leaders that most of the often-overlooked workforce are the primary earners for their low-income households. When it takes effect on April 1, fast-food workers in California will have the highest guaranteed base salary in the industry, the AP reports. The state’s minimum wage for all other workers—$15.50 per hour—is already among the highest in the US. Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom signed the law Thursday amid cheering workers and labor leaders in Los Angeles. Newsom dismissed the popular view that fast-food jobs are meant for teenagers to have their first experience in the workforce.

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42 Comments on California Will Pay Burger Flippers 20 Bucks an Hour

  5. Hold the pickle Hold the lettuce. Hold the burger. Hold the fries. Hold the bun.

    Have it your way, commies.

    I’ll eat at home. Not a bargain in Bidenomics either but he’s taken away our options. Gavin Nuisance is just another leftist foot soldier.

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  8. robots won’t steal, require paychecks or benefits, have bad attitudes, & are always on time for their shift … just to name a few pros off the top of my head
    with the current workforce mindset, other than an occasional electronic malfunction, i’m struggling to find any cons for fast food franchises to not put in robots

    so long shawniqua with your long gross fangernails you’re about to learn about watching what you wish for the hard way

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  9. The motivation seems pretty obvious to me.

    Raising the minimum wage has a disparate impact with many losing their jobs altogether because the employer can’t afford the increase. This swells the unemployment roles, placing them below the poverty threshold, and exponentially increasing the need for government assistance. And you can bet that all these welfare recipients will be grateful for the handouts by keeping the Dems in power.

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  11. A worker who toils 40 hours a week will gross $41,600 at $20 an hour gross. Two spouses each working 40 hours a week will gross $83,200. Two household members flipping burgers cannot make it in one of California’s metropolitan areas on $83,200 per year; a head of household trying to make it on $41,600 will still be dirt poor in much of California.

    Not to mention that at that level of gross income, the workers will probably lose some public benefits, and there will be some level of deductions (FICA, Medicare, EDD, etc.) which will further reduce the gross. At $20 per hour, a single person may be able to squeak by; someone trying to support a spouse or children, that person has no chance. California is expensive and inflation is real – thanks Californian politicians and Democrats. These folks will still be poor, but it may take just a little longer to run out of money.

    I would like poor people not be poor. But making a career out of fast food work is not the answer; it truly is a starter job. By raising the minimum wage to $20 an hour, California is signaling to its residents that there is little real opportunity in California at present, and making Quarter Pounders is now a career option.

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  14. Invest in robotic burger cooking machines. These useless, do-nothing, never show up, lazy bastards are all going to be unemployed soon. You know how I made more when McDonald’s hired me at 16? I agreed to work the closing shift for .25 more per hour. I made myself MORE VALUABLE to them. Imagine that. And then I went on to get a college education in Biology, work for a great company that manufactured medical devices, and never had to earn anything close to minimum wage ever again. Sorry, if the ONLY WAY you get a raise is when the government FORCES your employer to pay you more, you should ALREADY BE FIRED!!!

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  17. “The state’s minimum wage for all other workers—$15.50 per hour—is already among the highest in the US.”

    Two different minimum wages, how the heck does that even work? The state will be sued over that, resulting in a $20/hr minimum wage for everyone, you know – for equity. My first full time job was running a job press for a small local printer. I was 18 and I made $2.10/hr, didn’t even gross a hundred a week. At 19 I got a job at a bigger printing company making $4.90/hr. When I was 20 I decided I didn’t want to be a printer anymore, so I took a cut in pay and joined the Air Force.

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  19. Yes, I’ll be paying 20 dollars for a Big Mac – NOT!!! Until they get robots and can lower the prices, they’ll be driven out of business. Burger flipping jobs are for teens, not an uneducated class of immigrants who will never rise to more than burger flippers – until they’re too old to work, then they’ll be wards of the state and live off our taxes,

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  20. Mathematically this seems to fit with the rest of their housing & energy plan. Don’t like it? Move to Nevada, Oklahoma, Tennessee, etc…

    Note: Texas is closed. We’re still processing/re-educating Tesla & Samsung employees. The Samsung employees are far easier to re-educate…

    KR

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  21. “Note: Texas is closed.”

    Except for your National Guard that helps Illegal Aliens over the razor wire. Texas is a joke. I’m tired of hearing about it. They’re half a step away from California.

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  26. Can’t live on a measly $20/hr.
    They should demand $100/hr.
    And Noisome Newsom should support their demands!

    Power to the Slap-Heads!
    #SlapHeadsMatter!

    mortem tyrannis
    izlamo delenda est …

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  27. Here’s a sad reality. The skill set that government school graduates have, means that fast food jobs are now careers. Can’t do math, can’t read, can’t spell, can’t reason, can’t think, can’t, can’t, can’t.

    We’re one election away from the very real possibility that fast food will be shut down en masse. Bad for people, bad for the planet, bad for the climate, whatever reasons the communists come up with will be reported by the media arm of the government.

    Someday, the uneducated will lead us. AOC will be thought a genius.

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  28. could’ve solved this with TIPS being permitted/encouraged… teach the employees that it’s an incentive to provide better service, keeps the operating costs lower and thus menu prices lower – win-win all the way around. but no,… that’s too *sensible*

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  29. There is also the (un?)intended consequence of all union wages now set to be raised in the state because those union contracts are tied to guaranteed percentage over minimum wage. It will not just be burgers going to $20 a patty, the cost of anything touched by union hands will also go up the same 25% rendering the burger flippers raise a net zero.

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  30. Devious—and hilarious—thing about that $20/hour “law” is that those who are on welfare and working now will go way over their fed poverty line and lose benefits, not to mention they must declare their new wages to IRS as taxable income. Sneaky California. pity. lolol

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  36. Everyone who thinks robots are the answer doesn’t know a lot about the acquisition, installation, cleaning, and maintenance of robots.

    Yes robots become more attractive as labor costs rise, but they are very expensive for turnkey bevause you’re going to have to pay for the engineering for your specific application and location as not everyone has the same space, configuration of material, and requirements, and that’s over and above buying the actual thing.

    You won’t get a turnkey system from a robot OEM, you’ll get it from an integrator, because the OEM only gives you the bare robot, you have to have someone ELSE come up with the tooling FOR the robot and the peripheral I/O, material feeds, guards, etc., all of which have to be procured from a variety of sources and made to function as a cell, and that’s not cheap.

    Too, you’ll need this to be washdown because its a RESTAURANT, and you can’t tell the low level people you’ll still have to hire for char staff to be careful how they wash it, because –
    trust me on this – they WON’T be.

    Then you have to buy things to guard the thing, because people will have to interact with it to load it, clean it, clean around it, unjam it, repair it, etc., and unless you want your tits sued off if it makes an unexpected movement on response to someone being careless around it, you need it to disable itself whenever someone breaks guard and approaches.

    And they WILL try to circumvent the system.

    Best example of this was a large parts warehouse where parts were accessed by high speed electric AGVs behind a fence that cuts power to them when a human opens it. There is no handle on the inside so the interlock can’t be engaged from the inside. Seems simple, right? Well, the guy decided he wanted something inside the protected area but didn’t want to keep the system down long, so he rigged a cable over the fence so he could manipulate the lock from inside and re-engage it after passing through, which he did.

    We can’t ask him “why” because he was killed by a high speed AGV in an area not meant for human occupancy. Electric vehicles are quiet, and these had no horns or bumpers as they were not intended to work in the same space as humans. One turned a corner in a narrow space he wasn’t supposed to be in, and ended his regrets forever.

    Littler robots like these CAN end you, but are more likely to maim and cripple. Unless you want to pay for the janitor post trauma lawsuit, you need to consider things like this.

    But you don’t have to worry about it right away. If you go to a robot integrator TODAY and get in expedited for extra money, you may be starting installation in a year or two.

    Longer, if your name isn’t McDonald’s.

    They are backed up, the robot maker is backed up, the people who make all the little lights and sensors and such are backed up, and nothing will be available very soon. So figure on having people make your sandwiches a bit longer.

    And there’s this thing called “The Bathtub”. This is so named for the U shape of a tub, which is representative of your cost/benefit curve with an automated system, especially in a new application. You have to step over the high side to get in, which is the high start-up, installation, training, and break-in period (it’s NOT going to work right out of the box, you’re going to have a dialing-in period that humies will have to continue making sandwiches during while your integrator works out the kinks), and making last-minute changes (and you’re going to pay EXTRA for change orders) and component infant failures.

    All this assumes you had electricity, plumbing, and filtered compressed air adequate for your robot functions. If NOT, your installation is delayed until you get them, as the integrator will NOT do your facilites prep.

    Then you’re OK for a little bit when you get comfortable in the bottom of the tub. Absent breakdowns, power outages/spikes/phase problems, or employee sabotage https://youtu.be/cKLIivrA3g0?si=9sDS6Z11V0Tqpvn5
    , your thing will hum merrily along, making your sammies SO well you start RIFfing your workforce. This is at the bottom of the bathtub when your thing works good so you can yeet people who don’t.

    Then it gets old, joints wear out, proprietary systems start to fail, and you have no warranty any more. The robot OEMs also say you should replace the cables every 5 years because if you don’t weird IO failures start to happen.
    Further, you’ve bounced your people so you have no fallback and this dead robot is in the way so they couldn’t work even if you HAD them, and you’re going to have to spend time ans money training new people as your irritated customers go somewhere else. The integrator may or may not still be in business to help you, and only he or the OEM can work on it because of proprietary parts, and the service tech to install them may have an opening in a few months.

    Welcome to the other side of the bathtub.

    …also, robots do a dedicated, taught task very well. They don’t do variation well. A robot made for cooking fries might have a problem recognizing onion rings. You’re going to need new tooling if you want two fush fillets on a bun instead of on hamburger patty. If your bread guy delivers thicker slices one day this may not be able to be handled by your robot at all.

    And even franchises struggle with in-house equipment repairs. See McDonald’s Ice Cream for further details.

    https://www.allrecipes.com/article/the-real-reason-mcdonalds-ice-cream-machines-are-always-broken/

    …and speaking of McDonald’s, they have problems with cleaning their EXISTING tech, let alone actual PROCESSING robots. This link is broken so I don’t go to moderator hell for 3, but you know what to do…

    ht tps://iotwreport.co m/every-every-touchscreen-kiosk-at-mcdonalds-tests-positive-for-fecal-bacteria/

    …so yes. robots have their place, but their place may not be on every thin profit margin Quick Serve restaurant. They can be rewarding IF you’re well capitalized, patient, AND in it for the long haul.

    All others need to figure out how to make their humies work or fail. Robots won’t save the deperate or the marginal. The time-line is too long and the ROI horizon too far out, and th flexibility isn’t there.

    All this just scratches the surface, but you didn’t read this far anyway, so I’ll stop here. If you’re in a small business thinking about robots, all I can say then is good luck.

    You’re gonna need it.

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  39. The Gods of the Copybook Headings will never be denied. Unions love any increase in mini-wage. Government loves them too. Ought to be a lesson for we productive folks, those two entities loving the increase. Yes?

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  41. Thanks SNS, that was very informative.
    All I see you in the future for most stuff if this continues is vending machines with broken glass in the front because they don’t work either.

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