Declaring that Alcoholics Anonymous discriminates against “atheists, agnostics and free thinkers,” Lawrence Knight has taken the organization to the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal demanding they modify the twelve steps to exclude the term “higher power.”
So the serenity prayer would become what, a serenity statement?
Must strip spirituality out of everything to make sure we fully embrace the Orwellian new world. Atheists have become the least tolerant people in society. Fine, you don’t believe in God – why does it bother them so much that others do or seek comfort in religion?!
Or why not start their own atheist AA group rather than destroying what someone else built? Because they are evil shit bags.
Here’s an idea, Larry. If you don’t like the way AA does things, start your own dang group!
If you’re getting your knickers in a twist over the mention of God in AA, you’ll have one hell of a time getting sober. It’s a whole “resentments” thing.
Larry and the human rights tribunals are all humorless arseholes. I can see him winning against AA.
hmmm.. would it then become Atheists Anonymous, A place where the lost go to recover from a faulty and destructive world view?
Yah hey there, canadians can’t be critical of one another in fear of offending that carries a hard fine and sentence. It’s a free for all for things that aren’t as they have been on the grounds of offending. It’s a country of snowflakes and by golly if they don’t want God, they shalt not have God.
and so it continues, the majority manipulated by the minority activists
the pattern is clear
atheists
lgbtxyz
illegals
blm
feminazis
open border progressives
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99% of the above are democrats, you open the door with pc to these assholes and the activists go for the throat
Next they’ll want God, The Son, the Holy Spirit and any words or acts of righteousness removed from the Bible.
They’re just clearing the way for evil to fill the void.
Even the Dull & Ignorant have their story. [taken from Desiderata]. I have recovered from alcoholism through a power greater than myself and found those that would not accept a higher power have either fallen and are dead or still in recovery 30 years later.
Actually, many AA chapters try to avoid mentioning God directly.
I went to a lot of open AA meetings with my wife when she was first getting sober. Many, many of them do not believe in God, so it is a common hurdle to deal with with new comers. My wife was agnostic, at best, before AA. I am certain this very common trait is not just a co-incidence.
It was always acknowledging a “higher power” that was referenced because so many people had a problem acknowledging God (Don’t want ANYONE’S rules over them – especially Him). Although they always ended the meetings with a well known Christian prayer.
I always thought it interesting non-believers were saying a prayer every day and achieving recovery. God listens if you’re sincerely praying to Him. One step at a time you draw closer. 🙂 Whatever it takes.
The local chapter here has a habit of adding and subtracting whatever makes them feel comfortable when it comes to this “higher power”. “Take what you want and leave the rest!” Even the ending prayer was often varying from chapter to chapter.
The main hurdle is about letting go of the idea they are in charge of their lives. “How’s that working out for you?” (Legit question in my opinion) “Let the higher power be a bread box if it works for you” “Do you have any power over the ocean? No? Then give your problems to it!”
Bottom line – Bill’s book, and AA in general, is nothing without God. Take God out completely and you have no effectual AA recovery.
Whoever wants this must hate people a lot. It works as it is. It won’t if He’s out.
P.S. If someone tells you they’ve “finished the 12 steps and it didn’t work” – They don’t understand the program. You are never done. You keep working them. Forever.
Shorter version – they don’t discriminate at all. They accommodate you on whatever level you’re at.
The place is full of non-believers. That’s how they got there in the first place. At least %99.9 of them.
It’s also the resistance of acknowledging this “higher power” that thwarts their recovery the most.
That screwball Canuck can recognize the wall as his higher power and pray to the wall. Nothing will ever change and he will keep drinking. Smart Fella!!!!
Considering themselves to be the “higher power” is what makes most of them alcoholics in the first place.
Acknowledging God as a higher power has helped many alcoholics break free from the addiction.
If you are not being attacked for your beliefs in this day and age, you’re probably a moslem or an atheist.
Why not just recognize alcohol as the higher power? I mean, if it wasn’t more powerful than them, they wouldn’t be having to go to AA in the first place.
Not even the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal is stupid enough to either take this on or rule in his favor (and they’re plenty stupid) as it would be a disaster. This jackass already was instrumental in starting a similar group that took most of the AA wording and pitched the references to God. You notice that’s never enough for people on the left that always want to control and dictate other people’s lives. Hell, get a couple of guys, grab this meddling douche and drag him out in the alley and force feed him a quart of Rye. That ought to do that.
Assholes anonymous is three doors down, dickspittle.