What do you see? I don’t see him charging, but I do see him seemingly reaching for a gun. But it could be him holding parts of his body that are already hit with bullets. If that’s the case, he clearly had his hands up when he’s shot.
ht/ tsunami
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….and when they killed the ranchers I did nothing, because I was not a rancher.
This is the thought that keeps going over, and over in my head.
I would still like to know if Mr. Finicum was given conflicting commands by the arresting officers. Looks to me like at least two people were directing his actions at once.
Backing up in the video – I also noticed one of the officers deliberately jumping in the path of Mr. Finicum as he was trying to avoid the roadblock while braking. Are the FBI going to accuse him of trying to run down an officer as well?
If Finicum was black, black people would be rioting in the streets and burning the forest to the ground.
But Mr. Finicum wasn’t black.
I wonder about whether he was getting shot or shot at as well. Also the possibility of conflicting commands (like drop your weapon – you have to reach for it to drop it). The video really doesn’t provide any definitive information in part because there was no audio. Also, he was stopped in the road for a couple of minutes before the end. Was the reason he “fled” because they were shooting? Why not block him in when he was stopped?
What are you? Bob Uecker?
You people are dumb as rocks. Police don’t tell you to reach for your weapon to drop it. They tell you to put your hands behind your head and get on the ground. They would have also told him not to drive off, and when he did stop, not to jump out of the vehicle and approach officers. Have you ever seen someone when they get shot with a high powered rifle? I have. They don’t reach into their pocket to feel the wound. They are thrown back and go down.
Watch the video. Listen to the audio of Valerie Sharp. Her descriptions are completely corroborated by the video. The evidence shows that these people were harassed and entrapped into a fatal situation by the fascist federal murderers. The feds planned this and drew them in and sprang the trap. American patriots need to take a gut check and take up arms against their oppressors. Ten thousand resisting patriots and a few dead federales every time this happens will turn this ship around.
So you were there and personally heard what the feds / cops told him to do? The cops in front were pointing pistols at him – I’ve seen people shot with pistols that don’t go down immediately and try to defend themselves or check the wound. The video wasn’t clear enough for unbiased people to see for certain when he was shot I think people that insult others when they falsely pretend to know facts that they don’t are dumber than rocks.
BS. Your a frickin liar. But, it will be a proof for the guy that puts one through your fat ass. You can grab for what’s left of your [formerly underdeveloped] front side. You know squat.
He sat there long enough at the first stop point for them to set up the second one. And they set those trucks up in a way that was impossible to ram through. Then, it looks like they threw something in front of the truck? Surely the feds are not stupid enough to jump in front of a moving vehicle?
It’s not real easy to walk in deep snow with your hands over your head. Looked like he might have been trying to get his balance.
And it looks like he was shot from behind just before he went down. There has to be better ground footage, they always try to cover their own asses when they force their will upon others.
I’m calling it an execution until proven otherwise, the same way they would judge with one of us. I have zero respect for the murdering bastards. These people posed no threat to anybody. They were armed in accordance to the 2nd amendment, and they stood up to the tyrants — which apparently these days is a death penalty offense. They fired on no one and they did not brandish any weapons. I won’t believe LaVoy reached for a weapon unless i see clear footage of that. He was a peaceful rancher exercising his rights.
“Do as I say or die” is not the will of the People. Why should we be killed by our public servants?
Amen Unruly. They need to release footage from the ground with verifiable audio. Maybe he had a pistol in his pocket and maybe he didn’t. It’s not like there’s no history of evidence being planted on people to cover up the murders of corrupt “law enforcement”. Atlanta cops have been caught doing it more than once in the last few years including the old lady gunned down in her home by cops executing a no knock warrant they lied to obtain.
It’s all about the narrative. Travon Martin and Micheal Brown obviously weren’t constitutionalists standing up for citizens rights. They in no way threatened the establishment thus making them excellent political fodder.
Eric Garner’s crime was selling single cigarettes without paying the tax I think. So even though he was the right color and killed by the right people, he was encroaching on the establishment hence his death only rated a mild protest,
What Finicum and the others were doing is a direct threat to the narrative and must be snuffed as soon as possible.
Ask yourself this question. Are the protesters in Oregon a bigger threat to our liberty and the future of this country than Hiillary Clinton?
Anonymous, he did legally wear a shoulder holster. They knew that too, beforehand. It is likely that he was wearing it when they gunned him down — knowing they could easily cover their asses due to that fact if they chose to murder him and make an example for others who step out of line.
And before somebody goes throwing cop tactics at me, a good cop has got to have the ability to discern good from evil. There was no evil coming from these ranchers, only requests for rightful justice. They threatened no one. The evil is on the side of the feds in this case. It never had to get this far. The killers in the video are all living on our tax dollars, ordering innocent people to obey their orders or be shot. This is what they will give you if you don’t obey.
When is it time to say “no, I don’t think I will obey a government tyrant – that would go contrary to the constitution.” ??
Anonymous was me Unruly. I read where the FBI had put down a spike strip which might be why the fed idiot nearly got hit. LaVoy could have rammed the cars, but didn’t which shows me that he wasn’t hell bent on hurting anyone. I had read that they weren’t carrying guns at the time because the feds had scheduled a “meeting” with them (which is why they were on the road and the feds knew the route), but I don’t know how true that is.
Bubba’s Brother , I figured that was you but wasn’t 100% sure.
I heard in a video last night that they were headed to a meeting at a nursing home and at least one of the girls in the car with them, Victoria Sharp, was supposed to sing at that meeting. The Sharp Family Singers from Kansas are a Christian singing group. Here’s a video of the “terrorist” family:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWd62AQudzw
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The utube comments are insane, very anti-Christian. These are the kind of people that government thugs and progressives are deathly afraid of.
The comments would make you think this family trained ISIS on torture and beheading. I wouldn’t doubt that at least some of the posters were govt. funded trolls. Just shows how far down the rabbit hole our govt has gone that they consider decent, Christian Americans like this worse for America than actual moslem terrorists that they are importing by the hundreds of thousands.
I agree. It turns my stomach to know there are so many of the Christian-haters out there, and the government trolls too. It’s a feeling like somebody left all the doors open to all of the high-security mental hospitals, even gave the inmates car keys and credit cards along with instructions that apply to the progtard agenda.
Comments herein thus far prove our side to be reasoned and fair people. The Feds must come up with better proof than this video from above that leaves a lot of questions unanswered. The government’s swift action against these peaceful protestors doesn’t square with the huge span of time and waste of resources against the Clinton crime family and other federal malfeasance which has yet to yield any action or arrests. A rancher was left dead in the snow in Oregon and Hillary Clinton still travels around the nation in luxury and lives free. She is but one example. Anger ensues!
I am assuming that there were more video recordings made of this killing that we haven’t seen yet. I could be wrong.
I am assuming that if multiple video recordings were available and only one was released, that the one we’ve just seen does the best job of supporting the govt agents’ story. I could be wrong.
This released video is ambiguous. Without audio it isn’t possible to determine when in the sequence of Finicum’s movement the shots were fired. I am assuming that whoever decided to release this video knows exactly that, and wanted it that way. I could be wrong.
I am assuming that there exists video and audio recording taken at ground level by the govt agents who shot and killed Finicum, and that we will never see such a recording. I could be wrong, but I’d be astonished to find out that I am.
If my assumptions are correct, then it is highly likely that the govt agents lied to the Malheur people, lured them under false pretenses to an isolated place without independent witnesses, and shot and killed the first one out of the car who didn’t do exactly as ordered.
What makes me both angry and sad is that none of this surprises me in the least. It is what I have come to expect from the govt.
How about the fact that there was a chopper overhead following and documenting this event?
Coincidence?
the feds were out to get them no matter what !
Add the fact that the road block was around a curve so the driver HAD to swerve to avoid it, thus causing confusion and tensions to rise.
its FED season campers!
“They are thrown back…”
Only in Hollywood.
You’ve discredited yourself here, now.
I watched TV as a kid also.
Sometimes they even blow up or catch fire when shot.
At least they always heal right up afterward as they are always back the next week.
Yeah, you’re in your truck with 4 guns, one is a 9mm in your pocket. The smartest thing to do when you want to shoot at cops is jump out of the truck with your hands up. Then when you’re in plain view and have no cover, pull your pistol from your pocket.
I wasn’t born yesterday.
Looks like an ambush to me. The guy had his hands up and then, out of nowhere, a cop runs out of the woods and shoots him. Where did that cop come from? He was not dressed for the outdoors. There were tire tracks in the snow indicating that he drove into the woods and was waiting for the trap to be set.
Highly suspicious.
Does anyone else find it odd that the only video reased is from a constantly moving helicopter taken with a camera with really shitty resolution? I can take better video than that with my iPhone!
That should be “released”
Please recall the licensed CC dude in Nevada who was confronted as he left a Wallmart. He was given conflicting shouted commands and was shot dead following one of them.
Remember when they told us cops wouldn’t use drones? I wonder where they got a kid to fly that one.
Pretty certain I read that it was a fixed wing aircraft, like a 172 or 182. The FBI uses specially built Cessnas for surveillance because helicopters draw attention. A common civilian aircraft loitering in an area doesn’t look as suspicious as a helicopter, plus they have a much longer flight time for extended surveillance. They also set up proxy or shell companies to own and maintain the aircraft so that they don’t attract attention while sitting on the ground.
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Does-The-FBI-Have-A-Fleet-Of-Surveillance-Cessnas-224192-1.html
FBI overhead surveillance video. Poor quality. No audio. Plenty of time to “edit” it. Doubtless lots of unreleased video.
But:
Lots of assets deployed. I do not recall if there were any other vehicles on the road. Classic box canyon roadblock with periphery covered (though I think officers behind the barricade were in the field of fire from shooter at top of screen.) Retreat prevented by initial contact team.
I imagine this went down about as planned.
…Meanwhile, lots of REAL terrorists are entering the country daily
Thanks, barry.
A while back there were thousands of protesters Occupying public property, impeding traffic, shitting on police cars and generally creating a smelly nuisance.
Authorities did little but install some outhouses, pick up the garbage they left, and basically kiss their worthless asses.
(A couple of them got pepper-sprayed, but they were begging for it.)
Off topic? I don’t think so.
If that is the only video released, this will never be resolved.
Remember the Rodney King Video?
There appears to be a considerable discrepancy between this video and the “eyewitness account” released earlier this week. Specifically, the claim that the decedent was on his knees with his hands up when he was shot,
Some interesting stuff at Free N.C. blog if you care to take a look.
What’s up with that “talent release” post?
I watched… what disturbed me was the laser on top of the white dodge follwing it. Also the laser pointer on Lavoy’s body as he lay there for 9 minutes dying.