The left is correct. 2A does not give us the right to bear arms.
American Thinker explains-
“In speaking with many fellow gun-owners, I have come to realize that most people don’t know that the Second Amendment does not give us the right to bear arms. The Second Amendment states that the right to bear arms “shall not be infringed”; it does not confer that right. The Second Amendment is an admonition to government that it may not take away your right to bear arms, which is inherent.”
ht/ mighty mojo
That distinction is worth pointing out. I’ll try to remember that when the discussion warrants it.
This is actually true of the entirety of the Bill of Rights. The constitution explicitly says these rights shall not be enfringed and then goes on to list a few of them.
Exactly. Rights are God-given not goobermint given.
Since rights are granted by God then man should not be able to take them away.
I would carry regardless
This is why the debate rages over when a baby’s life begins – at conception? When it is “viable”, etc. And the terms “fetus” versus “baby.” We have a God-given right to life. This is why I do not understand how so-called “late term abortions” can be legal. If women are shamed for exposing their unborn baby to alcohol and drugs, why isn’t she doubly shamed for exposing them to abortion?
If only Congress and the Supreme Court would recognize and honor our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
To exercise my my right to bear arms I must be granted that right by the state through a paid permit (infringement).
So, pontificate and quote the Bill of Rights all you want, I have no inherent right to bear arms.
Yes, but unless we stop them they will continue to make spurious rules, legislate from the bench and enact illegal regulations to try to deny us our rights!
But, what about the “right” to not be offended?
@This Texan has had Enough — Thus the word “unalienable” versus “inalienable.” The former means exactly that only God can revoke such a right — that man cannot.
There is no “separation of Church and State” in the Constitution.
It says “there shall be no establishment of a State religion”.
Big difference. Remember when the media creamed Michelle Bachman over that?
…maybe more clearly: that they are rights that a human cannot give or take away, because they don’t come from man. This is the very core of “exceptionalism” that obama either didn’t understand or chose to ignore when he was asked that question. I think he was too stupid to get it. Plus he doesn’t believe in God, not even a muslim god.
OUR God TRUMPS your crocodile tears, libtards.
Point well taken.
So what ur sayin is the Magna Carta has nothing to do with natural law?
So what you’re saying PDT flawed is that you are an absolute idiot?
“So what ur sayin is the Magna Carta has nothing to do with natural law?”
Define natural law. Magna Carta is mans law. The Constitution defines God given rights.
And we are all Flawed Men. Conservatives just shoot a lot better.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/maine-newspaper-calls-complete-gun-ban/
fwiw the Magna Carta was the precursor to the Constitution in that it limited the absolute authority of the monarchy.
@jpm: That is (at least in part) because many of the Founding Fathers, including Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and probably George Washington, were Christian Deists (i.e., not Christians in the true sense of the word).
and thank God for that!
“… shall not be infringed”
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 4th Edition
transitive v. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent.
transitive v. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate
The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia
To commit a breach or infraction of; act contrary to, as a law, rightTo annul or hinder.
To encroach; trespass; intrude: followed by on or upon: as, to infringe upon one’s rights.
every time I’m required to register a fire arm, my right is being ‘infringed’
every time I pay taxes to the government to purchase a fire arm, my right is being ‘infringed’
every time I have to answer to an appointed officer of the government to keep, carry my fire arm, even on my own property, my right is being ‘infringed’
every time I am disallowed by government to purchase a knock-down version of a military fire arm, my right is being ‘infringed’
every time the government tells me how many bullets I am allowed to load in my fire arm, my right is being ‘infringed’
every rule, regulation, confiscation, restriction, penalty, fee, fine, or otherwise ‘infringes’ upon my right, a right not given to me by man or government, but by God, to protect me & my family & lawful worldly possessions as well as within my power
what part of “… shall not be infringed” don’t they understand?
Moan you were right the other day on the Catholic Church corruption article and I was wrong. I missed the link.
I stand corrected.
The time is coming when we will only have the rights we’re willing to fight and die for.
@majorityofone: That time is, was, and always has been, now.
I am damn sick and tired of the needless, endless and totally unnecessary bullshit about the 2nd Amendment.
Take a stand and let’s hash it out.
Your bitching vs. my GUNS.
The only reason we’re in this fix is because spineless weasels bargained our rights away when they had no right to do so.
the Magna Carta is not the referential document for the Second Amendment
the English Bill of Rights of 1687 guaranteed the right to keep & bear arms … although only to Protestants … lol
The reason we’re in this fix. That’s a deep subject. Here’s an interesting spin on our school system.
https://youtu.be/HZp7eVJNJuw
Either I’m a realist or a pessimist.
I’ll face judgement before I see my rights reinstated as written in the Bill of Rights.
If I pass judgement, I’ll have all of God’s given rights.
If not, I’ll have none.
Reference Amendments 2, 4, 9, 10.
http://www.ushistory.org/documents/amendments.htm#amend07
Even if God did not exist, you still have the right to live and that means protecting your life. Government cannot take away, that which it did not grant.
Hooray, I’m pleased to see Patrick Jakeway make this point on AT, which is a pet peeve of mine. The 2A in particular and the entire first ten amendments do not grant rights. They are a ‘bill of restrictions on government’ from trying to cancel those rights. This wrong thinking was set in motion when they were labeled a bill of rights when first debated and voted on. Rather than a bill of restrictions on government.
All ways speak of and make it clear the 2A is meant to inhibit government from infringing on this right. Not grant it. Big difference.
If the left’s desire to end the 2nd amendment came about, the 1st would go. The in order to fulfill the confiscation process they would have to get rid of the 4th, the 5th and others so they could search, seize and do away with due process.
The left thinks ‘infringed’ has something to do with fashion.
God-given Rights?!
Hell, the liberal fascists are convinced they’ve taken away God !
Still think your atheist neighbor doesn’t pose any threat?