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Alaska Airlines has grounded its fleet of Boeing 737 Max 9s hours after one such aircraft suffered a window blow-out after take-off.
Airline chief Ben Minicucci says the airline is taking “the precautionary step” to ground the Max 9s for “full maintenance and safety inspections”. More
Hoo rites theze hedlinz?
It was the mid-cabin door.
This is being blown way out of proportion. If you read the headlines they would convince you a big chunk of the aircrafts “SKIN” left town. It was a window insert. Meaning the frame for the window and the sheet metal around it. Is grounding the aircraft appropriate? Yes. Is a major design flaw. No.
Jethro
Bad rivets.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1743476391553683904
I THINK IT’S OK TO HAVE OPEN HOLE OPTION IN CASE WE HAVE INSANE PEOPLE WE NEED TO TOSS OUT
LIKE ANONYMOUSES
SIGN OF THE TIMES
Or bad workmanship, easy to blame on parts, but come on man people are soooo lazy & have lost pride in work skills, but sure blame it on parts, which is BULLSHIT! Parts like this are put thru quality control process, stress test, someone failed at their job period !!!
Benito brain, WTF !!! have a nudder drink my friend.
Benito brain, WTF, or have a nudder drink my friend.
I am soooo much more comfortable when ‘I’ have control of how much air flow I receive.
They are just SERIOUSLY LUCKY that this happened while they were still climbing and the seat belt sign was lit. Had they been cruising, with lots of folks walking to the bathroom, the drink cart in the aisle, etc. they death toll could have been quite large. Boeing is a POS company that clearly can NO LONGER manufacture SAFE airplanes. Seriously, this is the kind of basic shit that should be a NO BRAINER for EVERY plane they build. SERIOUSLY!!!
The machinists and engineers need to go on strike again…that’ll fix things! 🤦♀️
“easy to blame on parts,”
Bad rivets was a joke. I’m most certain it’s an assembly issue.
See not my fault, comment did not show up, but never the less excuse me for a dup comment, maybe next time I’ll check some how differently.
Ok, I will rephase my comment, Benito your drunk, before me there were no anonypous comments ??? So who are you wet-dreaming bout???
“The machinists and engineers need to go on strike again”
I’m a machinist. There’s four of us left.
Well thank you Brad !
Alaska Airlines?
If they’re chintzing on maintenance, you may see the ocean at the TOP of your window.
…but “at least upside-down, we’re still flying”…
https://youtu.be/gAYzBJxOeLw?si=GJe73el1uOIVxunX&t=56m30s
@Brad — Are you sure about that? I’ve now read multiple accounts, and seen lots of images. The common description is that what blew out was an emergency exit door that had been deactivated and hard locked because that aircraft wasn’t configured with enough seats to make that door necessary. The images I’ve seen have all shown a hole that is very much larger than a standard airliner window. The one I’m looking at right now at https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/large-piece-new-alaska-airlines-plane-blows-mid/ seems to be over two feet wide and three feet tall. That’s no “window insert” by any reasonable definition of the term.
I’d like to be wrong. I’d prefer to think that Boeing and Alaska Air weren’t as negligent as they appear to be.
So I state the rivets were not installed properly, did not seat correctly/or fully, hence a installation problem.
^^^
bad timestamp…
https://youtu.be/gAYzBJxOeLw?si=GJe73el1uOIVxunX&t=36m50s
Uncle Al
I’m basing my opinion on the link I posted above. It looks to me like it definitely a window assembly. Meaning window, frame, and sheet metal.
Ground them all and your fired, next. Kids building airplanes, what could possibly go wrong. But I want a raise !
Lower standards by increasing DEI requirements. That’ll fix things for the future.
I don’t see how Alaska Airlines can be blamed on this. This is a new plane, came off the assembly line and certified by the FAA just 2 months ago.
Thanks, Brad.
This is one of the articles that say the failure was a deactivated emergency exit door:
https://airwaysmag.com/alaska-boeing-737-max-blows-out-door/
Brad, it was the emergency DOOR !
From one of the aviation Instagram accounts that I follow they call it a “plugged door.” It’s plugged because of the seating configuration.
I still don’t fly Aloha airlines because of a similar issue.
Boeing = Poster child of DEI…this is what you get.
in 3 or 4 years, all the DEI Traffic controllers and pilots will be crashing planes weekly….
“Brad, it was the emergency DOOR !”
Thanks guys. I’m still seeing a clean profile. Meaning what left didn’t leave a jagged edge, our an irregular hole. Are yo seeing something different?
@ECP
Aloha does not fly passenger jets any longer, but they may still have an air cargo operation.
Yul Bebak
Not sure where you got that info but the first week of last October I flew them to Maui. Both directions.
I’m flying Alaska this Tuesday from San to Tam with my entire family. This was the model plane we were supposed to be on. I’ve heard they are replacing it with an older model. Weee! Should be fun.
Mojo56
You and your family will be fine brother.
I’m thinking there just about had to be some kind of assembly or manufacturing defect there. those emergency exit doors are “plug” doors that have to be pulled into the airplane first and then thrown out through the hole. If the plane was already pressurized, there’s no way that plug could have moved even if it was unlocked.
don’t fly on “unlubricated jackscrew” airlines, flt. 261
I heard that Spirit Airlines is sending their chief engineer to help solve the problem.
https://imgs.search.brave.com/weUXzlafJnTWsJDyMfNTbHycdPIQBZGzxgZNEcVmCvg/rs:fit:860:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9ueXBv/c3QuY29tL3dwLWNv/bnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fk/cy9zaXRlcy8yLzIw/MjMvMDQvU3Bpcml0/My5qcGc_dz02ODI
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https://imgs.search.brave.com/HNFxqjmoj5C_CucJcGgE7dZcg6NsvzKFpvks90s-GQ8/rs:fit:860:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly95b3Vy/bWlsZWFnZW1heXZh/cnkuY29tL3dwLWNv/bnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fk/cy8yMDE5LzA3L1Rh/cGVGdW5ueS5qcGc
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Rosie took off the day that plane was built.
https://imgs.search.brave.com/FiJAcOv9tVFvXVQf6wVBCApM1AM-8V32jVts_n4vuoA/rs:fit:860:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWRp/YS5nZXR0eWltYWdl/cy5jb20vaWQvMTAx/NDgxMzkvcGhvdG8v/ZmVtYWxlLWZhY3Rv/cnktd29ya2Vycy1y/aXZldC1hbi1haXJw/bGFuZS13b3JsZC13/YXItaWkuanBnP3M9/NjEyeDYxMiZ3PTAm/az0yMCZjPWdYdHct/NVVxOEE5QV85SUlh/clRaR0RSeEpqSGcx/V3dkelFtMkxwRk9X/WHM9
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Build Blowout Better.
Jethro – wouldn’t it make more sense if Spirit Airlines sent a ghost of a chief engineer…
I refuse to fly Alaska because of inexcusably obnoxious gay Flight attendant, rude mask Nazi female FAs. Alaska Airlines; where customers are tolerated and DEI is celebrated. I’d rather drive for 3 days than fly for three hours. And I made my money in aviation.
https://beatofhawaii.com/hawaii-hamstrings-what-remains-of-aloha-airlines/
I try not to fly Alaska Airlines because I don’t need to fly to Alaska. Hey, them and Southwest. I mean, who wants to go there?
(***HORN*** God, that was dumb. Sorry.)
Boeing – sad. No longer our father’s company.
That wasn’t a door or hatch. It is basically a blanking plug attached to an opening in the fuselage where a door or hatch can be installed. You can see the attachment points still on the framing around the opening.
Doors are larger than the opening and have to open inward. This is why they cannot be opened when the aircraft is pressurized. The higher internal pressure is forcing the door into the sealing surface of the frame.
There were no movable parts (hinges, latches, levers) on this part that blew out.
The SMITHSONIAN CHANNEL has a series called AIR DISASTERS, which is factual and covers a lot of these issues.
Thanks to Boeing, EVERYONE gets a widow seat.
…here’s where Southwest Airlines has enhanced window seating…
https://mashable.com/article/southwest-airlines-1380-air-traffic-control-audio
…I love how, after 3:50, when informed “there’s a hole and someone went out”, the worlds calmest duspatcher dispatcher chews on that for just a moment, then says correctly “Doesn’t matter” because at that time it doesn’t, then goes on to get them on the ground before they lose anyone else.
MrLiberty
SUNDAY, 7 JANUARY 2024, 12:29 AT 12:29 PM
“Thanks to Boeing, EVERYONE gets a widow seat.”
…you want a window swat? With this convertible configuration, Aloha Airlines has the view for YOU!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POXjwIJk14U
Everything will be fine by the end of this month when I fly Alaska to SeaTac for work, right?
😬
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/fuselage-breach-on-alaska-airlines-flight-puts-boeing-under-new-scrutiny/ar-AA1mAVTq
¡BENITO THE BOMBED BEANER! SATURDAY, 6 JANUARY 2024, 21:29 AT 9:29 PM
I THINK IT’S OK TO HAVE OPEN HOLE OPTION IN CASE WE HAVE INSANE PEOPLE WE NEED TO TOSS OUT
LIKE ANONYMOUSES
SIGN OF THE TIMES
If you’re going to pick on me, at least spell it correctly – Anymouse –
And by the way, when did I ever piss in your Wheaties?
@Brad
Are you sure it was Aloha and not Hawaiian Air Lines? According to Wikipedia, Aloha ceased operations in 2008, but I have seen their cargo jets at the Honolulu airport since then. I thought is was just cargo that survived.
But maybe Aloha passenger service has started again. If that’s the case, you are right.