Post WWII thinking, and responding to world tensions in an archaic knee jerk way, as if its 1945, is extremely dangerous for the United States.
Trump don’t play that way.
Empirically speaking, neo-Ottoman Turkey is a NATO ally in name only. By any standard of behavior — Ankara just withdrew its ambassador from the U.S. — Turkey is a de facto enemy of the United States. It supports radical Islamic movements, is increasingly hostile to U.S. allies such as Greece, the Kurds, and Israel, and opposes almost every foreign-policy initiative that Washington has adopted over the last decade. At some point, some child is going to scream that the emperor has no clothes: Just because Turkey says it is a NATO ally does not mean that it is, much less that it will be one in the future.
Instead, Turkey is analogous to Pakistan, a country whose occasional usefulness to the U.S. does not suggest that it is either an ally or even usually friendly.
Historic forces have made post-war thinking obsolete and thereby left many reactionary “experts” wedded to the past and in denial about the often-dangerous reality before their eyes. Worse is the autopilot railing for the nth time that Donald Trump threatens the post-war order, undermines NATO, is clueless about the EU, or ignores the sophisticated institutions that hold the world together.
ht/ really enraged
There are those who believe
Erdogon to be the Anti-Christ…
The friend and supporter of my enemy is not my friend.
Dump Turkey out of the UN and cut all financial ties.
Vlad Tepes, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
If memory serves, Turkey refused the US fly over rights during the Iraq war. Not to relitigate the wisdom of that war, Turkey is certainly no ally.
‘Trump threw a pebble at a global glass house…’
Trump is the HUGE rock that is thrown into a ‘still’ water lake.
‘Trump threw a pebble at a global glass house’ – VDH
Trump is the HUGE rock that is thrown into a ‘still’ water lake. Ba BOOM.
#MAGA
#KAG2020
Back to the fifth century for you.
Cut their power, cut their oil
Send in one hundred Marines to clear out the miscreants from the UN Building.
Tell them they get a week’s liberty in Honolulu for every broken bone treated at the DC Emergency room that night
For most of the last 70 years “our betters” worked hard to create “A New World Order”. They failed . But what is worse ; they did real damage to America and Americans!
The degradation of Americans’s living standards started before Don was born. He is trying to undo the bad work of 9 of the last 11 Presidents. The pebble shows how little his work has been compared to :HST, JFK,LBJ,Tricky Dick, Ford, bush,Clinton,Bush and Obama.\ against us. But it is a start; AND for the first time in 28 years we are moving in the right direction!
VDH is not hearty in his praise of Don; but at least he is not denigrating Don like Cal Thomas, Max B, J. Goldberg, Bill K. et. al.!
@ Jarhead – I have heard several interviews with VDH.
He is not an Anti-Trumper by any means….necessary.
#MAGA
#KAG2020
@ exJarhead – I have heard several interviews with VDH.
He is not an Anti-Trumper by any means….necessary.
#MAGA
#KAG2020
I remember back in the spring of 2016, when they were mocking Trump for his simplistic NATO thinking, this happened. From Vice News. I don’t think they were paying attention to the narrative…
“In mid-April, a British fast-patrol boat, the HMS Sabre, fired warning flares across the bow of a Spanish Guardia Civil (think Coast Guard) ship. The Spanish vessel had twice cut across the bow of a visiting US nuclear submarine, the USS Florida, when the escorting British patrol boat decided enough was enough, screwing with a visiting US warship was uncalled for, and shot a few flares high and inside to brush the Spanish off.”
Remember that one? Probably not. They didn’t want you to see what happened last night in Sweden, either.
@ PHenry: And haven’t been at least since the last of Kemal Ataturk’s modernizing reforms were eliminated by the Turks.
The European countries aren’t far behind. They’ve always been weak and feckless, which is why we entered WWII in the first place. They have to be bribed by the US just to do what’s in their best interest. It’s also why we’re witnessing their disintegration as we speak.
You don’t hear as much from VDH as he’s not a regular on the 24hr news channels, but there’s plenty speaking engagements on YouTube to glean his brilliance on history, and he most certainly supports Trump’s foreign policies, as seeing both the forest and the trees.
There’s so much unreported/misreported going on behind the scenes. Pakistan e.g., since Trump cut the $$ and called them on their support for terrorists, they’ve suddenly offered to negotiate to release the doctor who led to Bin Laden (sorry Paki’s this isn’t obama negotiating).
Turkey: We should shut down Gulen schools in the US, ship him back to Turkey, and let the Arabs sort out Erdogan.