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Like or Dislike the way this was handled?

Sunday, 18 February 2018, 20:00 BFH Uncategorized 40

A high school was put on lockdown after police received a report of an armed person.

This was the response.

ht/ petrus

40 Comments on Like or Dislike the way this was handled?

  1. We have on Thursday and Friday in Baltimore 3 different person in school with weapons in high school . Nothing new this stuff happens in the ghetto school in Baltimore, and Washington, D.C. All the time.

  3. Wow! That’s not far from where I work! I didn’t hear about this at all!
    That teacher must have crapped himself.
    Unfortunately, this is the reality now in our culture.
    What choice do the police have but to do this? They must have felt they had to have the benefit of surprize to ensure the safety of the other kids and adults.
    What scares me about this is that someone may get the idea to start SWATTING at schools. Then someone will get hurt or killed.

  9. @jethro if you work around the area does two days was crazy. 3 different high schools kids with weapons. Sending you the other one this one is from the Baltimore trash sun. Even one of the high school student was 14 years old,

  11. I wonder how long it will be before an innocent student is shot by a poorly screened, inadequately trained, over-anxious, SWAT enforcer who panics at the sound of a slamming door or a book sliding off a desk and hitting the floor.

    Even if they are there for a good reason, having a large number of heavily armed enforcers sweeping a building full of kids is dangerous in and by itself.

  13. This is a tough one. The reason I say so is that the media coverage of events like this will only encourage those that want suicide by cop as well as their name going down in history to give this a try. At the same time however is the publics right to know all the facts about these instances. I think the politicos instead of using these tragadies as a stick to push gun control or total gun ban ought to get together to create a policy on the reporting of these instances. I’d bet cash money that these shootings whether at nightclubs or schools would decline if the trial was held in camera and if found guilty the shooter was executed and buried in an unmarked grave or jailed in a supermax under a John Doe for the rest of their lives. I also realize that’s unlikely to happen.

  16. Here in Escambia county Florida (pensacola), there have been 3 kids found with guns at school this year, 2 of them were middle schoolers. The high school where my son attended just had an incident where a kid with an umbrella had the cops called on him by another student who thought it was a rifle. This brought forth some concerns in a couple directions, like the possibility of the kid being shot by an officer who feels threatened if the kid wields his “rifle” during orders to comply are shouted at him. Overall, it seems people agree calling the cops was the right thing to do.

  19. Somebody should Tee African Bobs link up to it’s own thread. I wonder if that dumb bitch knows just about EVERYONE in an NRA meeting is strapped. And good with a gun. Not so much fun when people are shooting back I hope she talks somebody into trying it, and I hope she’s held responsible. A very ugly woman.

  20. Twenty or so fully-kitted coppers with an armored wagon? The kid had already been disarmed by the teacher it appears.

    After Mesa PD and the Daniel Shaver execution, the cops scare me more than the nutbags.

    Kids in uniforms saying the Pledge in homeroom, no backpacks, no backsassing, no psychos, thugs or tyrants. Controlled corporal punishment reinstated.

  22. So what do you do? You can’t ignore the threat. The kids and the parents know the rules – no guns or gun look-a-likes (insert your Pop Tart comment here) in school. If the student is actually disarmed prior to the arrival of the police, then make sure the tactical unit knows that.

  23. Wyatt,
    Unless i’m miss reading this, the teacher already had the BB gun. If you walk into one of my kids class rooms and start sweeping them with hot weapons for no reason, I’m gonna be pissed. Next time park your ass at the door frame and call them out one at a time. With out their back packs.

  24. Brad,
    I’ve had family in LE since I was a kid, cops with guns have scared me for years, many couldn’t hit the side of a barn from 50 feet. Don’t even get me started on how many brag their badge and gun trumps the 4th amendment.
    Not saying it’s all but all it takes is a handful on a force to be a danger to the public.
    Hell, even some retired officers are scared to get pulled over and will tell you it can get you killed.

  25. ELIAN GONZALES RE-ENACTMENT?

    Kinda like over-kill by a factor of 50 don’t you think?

    Can’t the teacher or principal just come in and snag the backpack and be done with it? You need 30 S.W.A.T. team weekend warriors (collecting huge danger pay) to storm a school and *SWIPE the heads of children with loaded weapons? I mean, seriously, how long did it take 30 officers to get into their gear and arrive on the scene?

    *Swipe is a tactical term meaning,

    “to move the end of the barrel across the body/head of your teammate that could cause serious injury or death in the event of accidental discharged of the weapon.”

    Barrel is NEVER POINTED AT FRIENDLIES (you bunch of dummies!)

    👎 THUMBS DOWN!👎 I have zeeeero faith in domestic law-enforcement, and this just proves why.

  26. Old Racist White Woman

    You my friend have hit the nail on the head. I have a lot of friends/acquaintances that are LEO. All shooters. All good people. LEO scares them too. Most departments in California are required to shoot 45 rounds every three months to qualify. At 21 feet. Stationary.

  28. So, if the school found and secured the weapon then why did the SWAT have to come in to the classroom with guns drawn?
    Why not relocate the student and weapon to the office where there would be no further disruption to the school?
    I believe that an end game agenda of all these “allowed incidents” is that an entire generation is now accustomed to a police state.
    Watch how EVERYBODY is herded out of a building with their hands in the air as if they are the criminal, even when the known criminal has already been identified (for all those that would say “well they need to treat everyone as dangerous until they can have the entire area secured and under control”, EVEN WHEN THE KNOWN CRIMINAL HAS ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED).
    If the staff had possession of the weapon and control of the suspect then why would you need to come in with guns drawn into the classroom?
    So that all would know the authority and power of the state and that all would know they are at the mercy of the state.
    Serfs not citizens.
    Welcome to your Brave New World, everyone.
    Freedom, it was fun while it lasted.

  29. Menotu

    I’ll bet it was process driven. Went down like this. Teacher call the office after wetting himself. BWAAAAAH, a gun, what do I do. Front office, “That’s covered in chapter 3 page 42 of the manual, call the fuzz”.
    The SWAT team arrives. Calls back to station, “Hey, these are little kids, how do we handle this?”
    Dispatch officer, “Make sure we all come home alive”.

    I read a good article the other day heartlessly titled, “No One Cares Whether You Come Home Alive”. Google it. Worth the read.

  32. @Bad Brad: you will get no argument from me over what the proper procedure should be because I don’t really know. Like many threads here, I comment on things without knowing the entire story.

    Which kind of highlights another problem: many institutions, and particularly schools, have a “one size fits all” procedure for things. A student with a fully functional Glock in class gets the same treatment as a kid with an obvious bb gun. Different situations should call for different responses, but bureaucrats just push one button for both. In this case, if the teacher took a pellet gun away, the kid should have been sent to the principal and the tactical units not called.

  33. Wyatt
    Bottom line, there’s 34 parents burying their children in Florida. Something that should never happen. Facilitated by and enabled by Liberal Democrats. And they continue.

  34. Back in the day, we had a .22 pistol and rifle range at the school. No one shot up the school.
    In the parking lot most pickup trucks had a gun rack behind the seat in front of the rear window
    shotguns or rifles always visible. Loaded.
    No one shot up the school.
    It’s not the weapons.
    Something is wrong with the students.
    My guess is prescription drugs given by doctors

  37. Teachers are pussies today. We only had one like that when I was in school and he had a nervous breakdown and had to retire early.

    Here’s how it would have gone down when I was in High School:

    Teacher: “Johnny, someone said you brought a gun to school today.”

    Student: “No sir, I didn’t.”

    Teacher: “Let me see your backpack.”

    Student: “Why?”

    Teacher: “GIVE ME YOUR BACKPACK!”

    Student: “Yes, sir.”

    Teacher: “I see you have a pellet pistol here. Is that part of your normal classroom equipment?”

    Student: “No sir.”

    Teacher: “Do you realize that someone could have mistaken that for a real gun, and are you aware of the problems that could cause?”

    Student: “No sir.”

    Teacher: “Then why did you bring it here?”

    Student: “I don’t know, sir.”

    Teacher: “I think you do, but I’m not going to get into that now. This pellet gun is going into my desk drawer and you will not get it back until one or both of your parents come down here and discuss it with me. I intend to call them this evening and make them aware of this. Do you understand?”

    Student: “Yes, sir.”

    Teacher: “Good. Now report to the Principal’s office and tell him everything that happened here. Remember that I will be discussing this matter with him later, so don’t leave any details out.”

    Bottom line: Problem solved, no police involved, no criminal record inflicted. And you can bet Johnny won’t do it again.

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