All we’ve been hearing about is this new Hillary 11 point lead in the wake of Trump’s pussy remark 11 years ago. Every outlet was citing it, including d-bag NeverTrumpers who are absolutely gleeful that Hillary will win.
Where was this poll conducted? Who conducted it?
Turns out there were laughable metrics used in the polling sample, and the person conducting the poll is a strategic advisor for a large Hillary PAC.
Will this be reported?
Eventually, at the polls.
But in the meantime the poll will do what it’s designed to do – influence morons.
ht/ js
Majority apparently are strong democrats….Slap me and call me Martha!! Once again, LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES. Do they ever, even from childhood, tell the truth? Doubtful.
I despise the Clinton machinery as much as the GOP Ryan & Becks. Who do they think that they are kidding? We need so many people to turn them out. They have had decades to perfect their phony selection that only God can save us from them.
I went thru real clear politics poles this morning because the polling has been really bumming me out. I went thru primary polling as well. It looks like the piolling that was most accurate was Gravis. BFH I suggest you double check my work and raise the morale of the troops by letting them know that the most recent Gravis poll has it at a tie and do you agree they are the most accurate historically in polling Trump? Everyone else low balls him. And even Gravis has never overestimated him. They have been dead on or underestimated… Bet never polled him above how he performed in the primaries. Please let me know I’m not crazy. I’m losing hope, on Trump winning and my sanity.
I just looked at LA Times poll. Trump’s lead has diminished, but he’s still up 2 points. And generally I would expect LA Times to be pushing the ‘Hillary is ahead’ narrative.
Also, I looked at the brexit polling and I averaged the last 5 polls taken before the vote. They had remain winning by 3 points and the final vote was to leave by 3 points. A 6 point difference. Don’t know if this means anything in our election but it’s still good news in my opinion.
I conducted my own scientific poll. I asked myself, “Who would you vote for for POTUS if given the choice between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton?” Trump won with 100% of the vote and a 0% margin of error.
This NBC/WSJ poll is *such* an outlier – especially after the slam dunk 2nd debate – that I don’t get what the big deal is.
YES, it’s nice to see it so obviously explained in black-and-white that the company was “paid off” by the Clinton PAC…but is THAT really even such a surprise…and, will a single moron who watches NBC ever learn of this?!?
IGNORE THESE POLLS.
DON’T let them drive you crazy or get you down.
I agree, they never ask 99% of voters, only handpicked cherry blossom ones. The vote, and the exit polls across America will show the truth. And I hope the Trump people have those exit polls in place, otherwise Granny Corrupt will try to steal it again by voter machine fraud. If they catch her doing it this time, Hell hath no fury like Americans after their vilest enemy, Hillary the Cartel Queen. She will pay dearly.
@Onginer–While I trust Gravis because of the fact that it’s Pat Caddell’s outfit (and he’s an outlaw to the Dems–he was Jimmah Carter’s pollster but was kicked out of the club because he didn’t drink Kool-Aid) be advised that Gravis is running its polls for Breitbart–not that that is a bad thing. Caddell calls it as he sees it good or bad, which is why I like him.
2 Things:
The polls are published (I’m not sure the are really conducted in most cases) mostly by the network and cable media. Who are the cable and network media supporting and NEED to win? At this point in time if you still trust them you need your head examined.
“Hillary Up By X%” is intended to cause you to become depressed and give up on voting or to cause undecideds to vote for the apparent “winning” candidate. That is why it is critical for you to get out there and talk to people who don’t know what’s going on.
Polls have Gary Johnson getting 10%…..? Give me an effin’ break. Libertarian Party doesn’t get anywhere close to that even when they have good Libertarian candidates on the ballot!
RED FLAGS on POLLS for BEGINNERS
Small number of people questioned
(in this case, less than 500)
Over-weighted percentages towards Democrats
(at least in this election cycle)
Large margin-of-error
(anything over 3.5%…maaaaybe up to 4%)
TO Abigail
I’ve found it more “productive” to go out and talk to people than do the annoying (when it’s done to me) door to doorknocking and phonecalling polling.
Out at breakfast/lunch/dinner places TALK
gas stations TALK
hardware stores TALK
(though, here, they’re 1,000% Trump there already)
grocery stores TALK
YOU WERE BORN WITH A MOUTH…USE IT!!!
TO irony
But…DUDE…I heard, like, they were
handing out FREE WEED at the polls!
:0
The trick here is to make the polls match the end result. With the end result electing Hillary through massive voter fraud.
http://silenceisconsent.net/breaking-news-trump-right-hillary-campaign-committing-massive-voter-fraud-undercover-video/
d-bag NeverTrumpers.
Brad, I’m not saying you are wrong, but the real trick they are trying to pull is to get the end result to match the poll.
I saw this article over at ZH and found this in the comments.
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Who-Controls-Your-Mind.jpg
joe6pak, either way these bastards have this down to a science. Remember the districts in Ohio last time around that had 110% voter turn out. They have the electoral college sewn up. And there’s way to much at stake to allow DJT to be elected.
What really pisses me off though is WSJ actively campaigning against Trump and saying he can’t win. Trump wins in the comments section, but it seems that the columnists are practically united in their opposition.
@old_oaks – even though dailystormer is not a reputable crew (putting it very mildly), I believe their chart is accurate. The primary concern, if there is one, of the “Jewish vote” is that most Jews are in favor of continued support of all kinds for Israel, and increased support wherever they can get it. Given Trump’s willingness to scrutinize all the U.S.’s international relations to be sure we are supporting the right regimes (in Israel we are), and getting the most benefit for our efforts and dollars (not so clear about Israel in this regard), I believe it reasonable to expect most Jews to vote for Death-eyes and to support her in any way they can.
TO old_oaks
Yes, there are still a few at ZH who link to that neo-nazi website (which cloaks itself with the “alt right” label).
Brad, and how about the districts in Philadelphia that went 100% for obama. Hell, Idi Amin couldn’t even get that kind of margin.
Czar, you are 100% right. I am in the gym everyday and all of the brothers are zombie dems. I just kep hammering them everday and at least a few have admitted they hate her too and know she is a corrupt old white broad. They are nowhere near going to the polls for her like they did for obama. They disconnected this time around. I hammer them on haiti and robert byrd and today I used sand niggers. One jamaican dope told me there I nothing she can do that would make him not vote for her after I reeled off her racism and corruption for 10 minutes non stop. I laughed in his face.
I watched a video on YouTube about a programmer hired in a Florida election preplanning testifying before the Florida House. He testified under oath that he installed code that would : 1. flip votes on command in the voter machines, and 2. Self destruct to avoid detection after the vote ended. This was a programmer who specialized in this chicanery. When questioned by hearing members, he disclaimed any knowledge of Diebold machines being done for this November. The only way to detect fraud is to match up paper ballots with the machine tallies, and/or exit poll data witnessed and attested to for court proceedings afterward.
From 5 yrs ago. this is the link. https://youtu.be/rVmsaDS_FwY
Kudos to sundance for such stellar research and to BFH for recognizing their hard work.
BB:
Are you merely concerned about the magnitude of fraud that will occur,
or are you really “raincloud-over-the-head We’re Doomed!” convinced?
Anecdote of the week
In NE Ohio there continue to be few Killary signs. Driving to a western suburb of Cleveland this morning I saw a sea of Trump signs, 1 Killary sign, one Johnson sign. These are normally solid D areas.
Myfriend drove from her eastern suburb of Cleveland to meet me for lunch. Her suburb and neighborhood is 80% black. She said all she saw on her drive was a sea of Trump signs. One street in her neighborhood has Killary signs. Someone had placed them in the yards of vacant homes and in one vacant lot.
Even the neighborhood bar sports Trump signs.
Last election her ‘burb voted 98% D. It appears that may change this election.
I would love to see the methodology used for these polls.
AA nailed it her statement above. Published, yes. Conducted, questionable.
Czar of Defenestration,
My trade demands that I am a realist. You can pretend this threat isn’t real if you prefer, but I never underestimate my enemy.
BB
I asked seriously. Sorry if it insulted you. I am (or imagine myself to be) a realist as well…part of which is not “underestimating your enemy” as you say. Indeed, it IS a threat…
BUT: IF you are convinced that Hillary will win through voter fraud, I don’t see why you’re so (for lack of better words) “upset,” as opposed to exuding confidence and telling us how to best prep for the coming civil war (which, hedging all bets, is not inadvisable, to one degree or another).
Again, I’m asking seriously and respectfully (i.e. not being sarcastic).
as a “P.S.”
I don’t see the fraud at that “hopeless” level,
and see every reason to continue to promote Trump.
BB — I get it. Our neighbors are both lawyers and everything that comes out their mouths is filtered through their lawyer worldview. But I think you are overestimating the D’s right now. They are in total disarray — especially following the firing of their top DNC officials, the attendance at killery rallies (when she has them) is dismal at best. She is a total buzz kill for millenials and it looks like the only women she’s got are some transgendered and lesbians. The rest will be too ‘tard’ to leave the comfort of their cars/homes/pajamas to go out to vote. OTOH, Trump is still setting records for every venue (plus the couple+ thousands who can’t get in), his GOTV is organic (he’s doesn’t have to pay the $120/day killery is paying for the same thing), he has solid, trustworthy spoxpeople all over creation, including all his kids stumping (who are garnering their own big crowds, and over 60% of the country agrees with him on all the main issues.
Landslide, my friend. Landslide.
Czar, I think THEIR desperation in stopping Trump at all costs is severely underrated. Trump will cost some very wealthy people a lot of money. Upset their little apple cart. Remember Soros a couple weeks back. “We already know Trump will win the popular vote but Hillary will win the election.” They did the same thing to Romney last time and in reality he is one of them.
Civil War is a dead loser.
BB — Remember PUMA? Those women hate Donna Brazille even more than they hated obama. You think the D’s are parting with their cold, hard cash right now? Even Wall Street is paralyzed in fear of Wikileaks and what will be revealed by Podesta in them.
And remember, Don King is a major player for Team Trump Train on promoting within the black constituency.
Trump up by 86% in Totally-Unbiased-Poll™ that excludes illegal aliens and dead people:
http://i.imgur.com/MLJmikD.jpg
BB
Gotcha. The THEY to whom you refer consists of (at a minimum!) all Dems, all GOPe, most media, most financial institutions…I think we agree there, in that they ALL have ALOT to “lose” with a Trump Administration.
Hence their desperately “open” actions (veil and pretenses have been dropped…not enough time). I think we agree there.
I just don’t see – and I don’t think I “underrate” – the nationwide electronic fraud happening which would be required for “them” to hand Hillary the win.
Furthermore, such a result would not be accepted as legitimate by too many Americans. Admittedly, only a small portion of said people would *ahem* do anything about it, but that’s another discussion for another time and place.
BTW, that “Soros” vid who which you refer was DOCTORED: they SWITCHED the names coming out of Soros’ mouth (i.e. Soros actually expects Trump to win). Check out his lips with the “but … will win the election” part.
A momentary digression
http://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2016/10/if-she-could-do-that-to-bill-imagine.html
You’re welcome.
Czar, AA, Lets just say I hope you two are making fun of me election night. I would welcome that. But my spidey senses are working overtime.
Make fun of you?!?
HELL NO!
It would be nice to share some champagne
(gotta cut back on the whiskey…)!
Meanwhile, MSNBC DELETES Morning Joe’s
criticism of this “cooked poll”
http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/10/msnbc-deletes-scarborough-criticism-of-nbcs-cooked-poll-helping-hillary/
Can’t have citizens questioning the
Ministry of Truth!
BB — One way or another I’ll be hammered on election night. It doesn’t take much for me. I’ve got that champagne chilling — a good bottle for a win a cheap one for a loss. I’m very much planning on the good one.
Well, I guess since Hillary is so far ahead it won’t even be necessary for most Democrats to bother voting, so they can probably just stay home and watch TV instead.
Spread the word.
🙂
Well, gee, I was going to vote for Hillary but she’s so far ahead I don’t have to.
That’s MY KIND of “Tokyo Rose” spirit, VietVet!!!
🙂
Polling has taken a turn since 2000. It was never as coordinated then as it is now nor did it have the political inbreeding that we see in the CTH report. I want to say Trump will be elected. I hope he is and i pray he is. I just dont see the enemy being able to pull off the big steal. I read post after post of young people at reddit and on FB that have never registered or voted before, but will vote for Trump now. I read of other stories similar to Eugenias. In all optimism i say
Trumps got this.
Make a nuclear deal with the devil or say pussy.
Which one is worse?
457 people polled and that’s suppose to give a good sample. LOL
Mr. Pinko, they’re doing this for a reason. Their little bull shit form of documentation.
I don’t think some of us understand what they’re doing with these poll numbers. It’s called “Bench Marking”.