20 Comments on Not All Occupying Activists Are Treated the Same
One is white, the other is black. Ya don’t need a crystal ball . . . .
A black friend of mine had this to say about the situation.
“When black folk are upset about a situation they make a lot of noise and bust up shit. When white folk get fed up, they take down the whole government.”
A quick look at history shows why he thinks that way.
Yup, there’s your white privilege right there!
Execution is a bit of a strong word for a guy that reaches into his coat with one hand while at gunpoint is a death sentence whether he had a gun or not, suicide by cop.
That being said, yes the Feds are way past out of control, with the state right behind.
Yes. I agree. The meme on the right leaves an awful lot out of the equation. I’m surprised BFH is promoting this.
While Mr Finicum does appear to be either reaching to his side, whether that is because he was shot or he was going for a gun cannot be determined from the one video released by the FBI. And the OSP refuses to release their video. Why would that be if it exonerates the officers doing the shooting. I will say, the final moments of Mr Finicum’s life reminded me of the climactic scene from Gran Torino.
Although the reign of Obama has certainly highlighted skin color,it goes deeper than just black and white Substitute Clarence Thomas for Lavoy Finicum with the circumstances being the same, he would be jut as dead, and he would still be a domestic terrorist according to the narrative. If Micheal Brown had been white nobody outside of Misery would have ever heard of him, just as no one knows the names of the black children in Chicago killed by gang-bangers.
What Holder and the Occupy Wall street crowd (who were mostly white and fairly well off) were advocating at the fundamental level was more government power. Hardly a thing that would upset the PTB.
Had the protesters in Oregon occupied the Hammond ranch and refused to leave until the BLM took over, I’m sure there could have been a negotiated settlement.
When we have a police shooting here abouts the name of the shooter involved is released, often before the identity of whom was shot.
We know who was shot.
Who was the shooter?
Who is on administrative leave right now pending the investigation by an outside agency as to the legitimacy of the killing. That is how officer involved shootings are handled here.
Or is this a different matter?
If it is a different matter, why?
Blaine Cooper, Shawna Cox, and Victoria Sharp all said that LaVoy Finicum had left his weapons at the refuge and was unarmed when they shot him.
They also said that they were fired upon at the first stop, before they got to the stop where LaVoy was killed:
“When they left to go over to the other county, all of them left their weapons behind. As far as Ammon wasn’t armed, LaVoy wasn’t armed, all of LaVoys weapons were at the refuge when he left,” he said.
“The only reason he drove off was because he was being fired at so he drove off so he didn’t get shot,” Cooper said. “There’s two rounds in the top of his truck that they were able to photograph. That’s why he drove off and tried to get around there because he was afraid they were going to kill him. And he was right.” -http://conservativefiringline.com/audio-blaine-cooper-says-lavoy-finicum-left-all-weapons-at-refuge-was-unarmed-when-shot/
They probably made him reach for a wound so it would look like he was reaching for a weapon on the crappy video the FBI released in the name of “transparancy”.
But we won’t see the FBI ground footage while under the current administration, because they will use the Patriot Act as a shield to hide the truth. This is one reason why all the enemies of the 0bama administration are labled as “terrorists”.
@JannyMae, I don’t think BFH is promoting this. He just posted the thing I sent him, and I am thankful that did.
I’m well aware of what they said, Unruly refugee, but I don’t think they have any more credibility than the Feds. You admit that the video we have been shown is inconclusive, yet you use the word ‘executed’ in your meme. You’ve got your preconceived conclusions ground in stone, so you have no credibility either.
I’m afraid I simply don’t believe either the story that he left his weapons behind or that the vehicle was shot at. It sounds like made up excuses to me.
Thanks for reminding me of that. I read it a while back, I think in the 70’s when I was perusing his work.
Well, your credibility obviously trumps mine. So , …
Good Night!!!
P.S.
Has anybody given any explaination as to why Ryan Bundy was shot? Is there video of him reaching for something? Was he arrested for firing upon federal officers? Maybe they just didn’t like that crooked smile of his? Who knows.
I am going to call this an ambush and execution unless it is proven, without a doubt, otherwise.
My trust for the government to tell the truth does not exist. They are all liars unless they can prove otherwise. That seems to be a main requirement these days.
I do trust most of the ranchers that I know and do business with. And I think I’ll side with them. They tend to be honest, hard working people who respect and honor their creator.
God Bless Them All.
Goodnight!
I think the old saying was something like ‘that when blacks riot, cities burn. When whites riot, continents burn.’
The killing is going to start soon. Things are going to get unimaginably ugly, and stay that way for an extended period.
Unruly refugee — the graphic is spot on. Mr. Finicum from all I can tell was a wonderful, true American. He fought for his country and he died for his country way before he should have. I have no doubt in my mind he was murdered in cold blood at the say so of the democrat governor and our democrat prezy. This was a set up imho. If you haven’t seen this video of this courageous and thoughtful man, please take a few minutes to listen to it and hear his story and the reasons he went to Oregon to make a stand for ALL of us.
If this had been a stand on “Federal Land” by a bunch of un-American democrat occupiers, they would have gotten great media coverage and the support of the democrats.
Promoting it?
Unruly made it and now you’re having a discussion about it.
Everything I post is not a proclamation. There are other contributors on this site that post things I don’t agree with and vise versa.
When I first posted the video I said it looked like he was reaching for a gun.
On that note, about thinking I’m seeing him reach for a gun –
If you remember, I posted a video about a cheerleader coach that had the same quality as the Finicum video. It looked like she was tripping a cheerleader and she was fired.
Then another clearer video came out and it actually changed my mind. It looked like the lady lost her balance.
2 or 3 of the comments on that thread said “I can’t tell you how much I didn’t give a shit about this story.”
This was said even after I explained why I was posting the video
So, getting a discussion going is often shot down by people eager to comment for the sake of commenting.
When Unruly sent this in I thought it would be the start of discussion, it wasn’t my point of view.
Thank you so much Tuesday.
And thank you for posting that video link. I’ve been watching a lot of these videos and have found it evident that LaVoy Finicum was a very peace-loving man who tried to live in accordance with the Constitution.
He was on his way to a meeting, and was going to meet with the Grant County Sheriff, Glenn Palmer, who had publicly stated that the FBI should leave the area and the government should hear the grievances of the protesters; Grievances the government thugs had no intentions of listening to, nor did 0bama or anybody in his Just-Us department. They were not willing to listen to or negotiate with people who claimed the rights laid out in our Constitution. Our Constitution is seen as a big roadblock for the 0bama administration.
I think you’re right about the Oregon governor too. She made contact with 0bama and Lynch and demanded they do something to put an end to the occupation. Look how quick they responded. You’re right about how the democrat occupiers always get a free pass too. That socialist governor would have instead called any leftist protesters to congratulate them and offer her services.
It’s a crazy world. Thank you for that very nice comment.
One is white, the other is black. Ya don’t need a crystal ball . . . .
A black friend of mine had this to say about the situation.
“When black folk are upset about a situation they make a lot of noise and bust up shit. When white folk get fed up, they take down the whole government.”
A quick look at history shows why he thinks that way.
Yup, there’s your white privilege right there!
Execution is a bit of a strong word for a guy that reaches into his coat with one hand while at gunpoint is a death sentence whether he had a gun or not, suicide by cop.
That being said, yes the Feds are way past out of control, with the state right behind.
Yes. I agree. The meme on the right leaves an awful lot out of the equation. I’m surprised BFH is promoting this.
While Mr Finicum does appear to be either reaching to his side, whether that is because he was shot or he was going for a gun cannot be determined from the one video released by the FBI. And the OSP refuses to release their video. Why would that be if it exonerates the officers doing the shooting. I will say, the final moments of Mr Finicum’s life reminded me of the climactic scene from Gran Torino.
This should help,MSM has not covered much at all.
https://www.intellihub.com/clinton-foundation-payoffs-promised-hammond-ranch-other-publically-owned-lands-russia/
http://www.freecapitalist.com/2016/01/27/the-ambush-and-murder-of-robert-lavoy-finicum/
Although the reign of Obama has certainly highlighted skin color,it goes deeper than just black and white Substitute Clarence Thomas for Lavoy Finicum with the circumstances being the same, he would be jut as dead, and he would still be a domestic terrorist according to the narrative. If Micheal Brown had been white nobody outside of Misery would have ever heard of him, just as no one knows the names of the black children in Chicago killed by gang-bangers.
What Holder and the Occupy Wall street crowd (who were mostly white and fairly well off) were advocating at the fundamental level was more government power. Hardly a thing that would upset the PTB.
Had the protesters in Oregon occupied the Hammond ranch and refused to leave until the BLM took over, I’m sure there could have been a negotiated settlement.
When we have a police shooting here abouts the name of the shooter involved is released, often before the identity of whom was shot.
We know who was shot.
Who was the shooter?
Who is on administrative leave right now pending the investigation by an outside agency as to the legitimacy of the killing. That is how officer involved shootings are handled here.
Or is this a different matter?
If it is a different matter, why?
Blaine Cooper, Shawna Cox, and Victoria Sharp all said that LaVoy Finicum had left his weapons at the refuge and was unarmed when they shot him.
They also said that they were fired upon at the first stop, before they got to the stop where LaVoy was killed:
They probably made him reach for a wound so it would look like he was reaching for a weapon on the crappy video the FBI released in the name of “transparancy”.
But we won’t see the FBI ground footage while under the current administration, because they will use the Patriot Act as a shield to hide the truth. This is one reason why all the enemies of the 0bama administration are labled as “terrorists”.
@JannyMae, I don’t think BFH is promoting this. He just posted the thing I sent him, and I am thankful that did.
Thank You BFH!!!
May be relevant:
http://www.europeanamericansunited.org/school1/Fiction/kipling/awakened.htm
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I’m well aware of what they said, Unruly refugee, but I don’t think they have any more credibility than the Feds. You admit that the video we have been shown is inconclusive, yet you use the word ‘executed’ in your meme. You’ve got your preconceived conclusions ground in stone, so you have no credibility either.
I’m afraid I simply don’t believe either the story that he left his weapons behind or that the vehicle was shot at. It sounds like made up excuses to me.
Thanks for reminding me of that. I read it a while back, I think in the 70’s when I was perusing his work.
Rest in Peace,may God keep You Safe.Amen
http://www.hughesmortuary.com/notices/Robert-Finicum
Very nice memorial.
Well, your credibility obviously trumps mine. So , …
Good Night!!!
P.S.
Has anybody given any explaination as to why Ryan Bundy was shot? Is there video of him reaching for something? Was he arrested for firing upon federal officers? Maybe they just didn’t like that crooked smile of his? Who knows.
I am going to call this an ambush and execution unless it is proven, without a doubt, otherwise.
My trust for the government to tell the truth does not exist. They are all liars unless they can prove otherwise. That seems to be a main requirement these days.
I do trust most of the ranchers that I know and do business with. And I think I’ll side with them. They tend to be honest, hard working people who respect and honor their creator.
God Bless Them All.
Goodnight!
I think the old saying was something like ‘that when blacks riot, cities burn. When whites riot, continents burn.’
The killing is going to start soon. Things are going to get unimaginably ugly, and stay that way for an extended period.
Unruly refugee — the graphic is spot on. Mr. Finicum from all I can tell was a wonderful, true American. He fought for his country and he died for his country way before he should have. I have no doubt in my mind he was murdered in cold blood at the say so of the democrat governor and our democrat prezy. This was a set up imho. If you haven’t seen this video of this courageous and thoughtful man, please take a few minutes to listen to it and hear his story and the reasons he went to Oregon to make a stand for ALL of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwDulNQEys…
If this had been a stand on “Federal Land” by a bunch of un-American democrat occupiers, they would have gotten great media coverage and the support of the democrats.
Promoting it?
Unruly made it and now you’re having a discussion about it.
Everything I post is not a proclamation. There are other contributors on this site that post things I don’t agree with and vise versa.
When I first posted the video I said it looked like he was reaching for a gun.
On that note, about thinking I’m seeing him reach for a gun –
If you remember, I posted a video about a cheerleader coach that had the same quality as the Finicum video. It looked like she was tripping a cheerleader and she was fired.
Then another clearer video came out and it actually changed my mind. It looked like the lady lost her balance.
2 or 3 of the comments on that thread said “I can’t tell you how much I didn’t give a shit about this story.”
This was said even after I explained why I was posting the video
So, getting a discussion going is often shot down by people eager to comment for the sake of commenting.
When Unruly sent this in I thought it would be the start of discussion, it wasn’t my point of view.
Thank you so much Tuesday.
And thank you for posting that video link. I’ve been watching a lot of these videos and have found it evident that LaVoy Finicum was a very peace-loving man who tried to live in accordance with the Constitution.
He was on his way to a meeting, and was going to meet with the Grant County Sheriff, Glenn Palmer, who had publicly stated that the FBI should leave the area and the government should hear the grievances of the protesters; Grievances the government thugs had no intentions of listening to, nor did 0bama or anybody in his Just-Us department. They were not willing to listen to or negotiate with people who claimed the rights laid out in our Constitution. Our Constitution is seen as a big roadblock for the 0bama administration.
I think you’re right about the Oregon governor too. She made contact with 0bama and Lynch and demanded they do something to put an end to the occupation. Look how quick they responded. You’re right about how the democrat occupiers always get a free pass too. That socialist governor would have instead called any leftist protesters to congratulate them and offer her services.
It’s a crazy world. Thank you for that very nice comment.
🙂