When Companies are no longer concerned with their Bottom Line Profits choosing an Ideology enstead of Food on the Table, you know it’s time to follow the once Flowing Money to the Very Top.
14
Time to move to the Deep Web.
8
@Plantsman ~ when you are among the richest men that the world has ever known & your company loses a few billion here & there, the ‘bottom line’ matters little
the US is about to be taken over by these Fascist Oligarchs … behavior deemed ‘inappropriate’, according to their whims, will become commonplace
(my Alexa had a glitch & told me so in an unguarded moment during a recent lightning storm)
9
re: video- amen!
2
I’m actually optimistic about these events. There is a great book “The Starfish and the Spider: The Unstoppable Power of Leaderless Organizations” that describes what happens as a centralized organization give way to leaderless organization.
“If you cut off a spider’s head, it dies; if you cut off a starfish?s leg it grows a new one, and that leg can grow into an entirely new starfish. Traditional top-down organizations are like spiders, but now starfish organizations are changing the face of business and the world”
Napster began as a spider, an organization with a head and centralized command and control. Easy to attack. Each time the government tried to kill it, music sharing morphed more and more into a leaderless (peer to peer) arrangement that could not be easily targeted.
I think the more major social media companies manipulate free speech, the quicker it will spur innovation in the way we connect and communicate. The spider organizations are inadvertently making space for the starfish organizations to develop.
11
Why do people think their constitutional rights of expression give them privileges on social media platforms?
Are they stupid?
If the civilian owners of Face Book, Twitter, Instagram, or any other time sink of the indolent, the narcissistic, the bloviating fucktards who want most of all to have attention paid to them diss their opinions and silence their access… well, they can. It ain’t against the law.
Get used to it. You want rights to use a platform as you see fit? Build yer’ own.
I’m sick of butt hurt freeloaders bitchin’ about being “silenced” on a medium they are trying to use for free.
You want access to the public? Buy it.
That’s all I got to say about that.
2
PRO-TIP….. turn sound off. Turn closed captions on. Otherwise it’s like listening to a moose eating peanut butter.
1
Sweet Dreams, Moonpie. That’s a bad habit you’ve got there. You know what that habit will make you dream, Moonpie? You’ll dream you’re an executive. You’ll have your hands on all the controls, and you will wear a gray suit, and you will make decisions. But you know what, Moonpie? You know what those executives dream about out there behind their desks? They dream they’re great rollerballers. They dream they’re Jonathan; they have muscles, they bash in faces.
3
Twitter suspended Gavin McInnes and the Proud Boys today. I’m getting really sick of this shit.
14
i like pjw but listening to him is like listening to that meerkat lady
1
Lowell,
Nothing is “free”. If you aren’t paying for a product, you ARE the product.
I look at it this way…the social media companies are selling their user’s data while also controlling what is put out into the ether. They are living off of their users while simultaneously gathering data and using that data against those of whom they disagree. Now many of the bigger platforms are working together on this.
People complaining about their freedom of speech being infringed are only touching on one of the ways that social media companies are using their platforms for evil. I think the other two evils are worse…monitizing our data, and colluding with other social media companies.
I concur with your idea of starting our own platforms. I wish I had the know-how.
5
“Twitter suspended Gavin McInnes and the Proud Boys today. I’m getting really sick of this shit.”
That’s so they couldn’t communicate during this week ends upcoming festivities. It promises to be nasty.
6
… & yet, practically every ‘conservative’ website I go on has a ‘like us on Fakebook’ click-box …. whaddaya thing about that? … price of business, I suppose ….
3
Fur owns this venue. What gets said here, and stays up, is entirely up to him.
And that is EXACTLY as it should be.
Sometimes, I swear I can hear his teeth grinding. He’s one of the most tolerant owners of a quite large blog that I know of.
I know my post above rankled quite a few people. It’s not what they want to hear and certainly not what many want to be. But there it is.
I try really hard not to lie to myself and even harder not to lie to those I speak with. What I wrote is the ugly truth as I understand it today.
4
we keep hearing how “the internet” will save us when civil war 2.0 starts…..i’m of the opinion that once civil war 2.0 starts, the whole internet – in its entirety – will “collapse”
as in….will be shut down…by those who control it…zuck et al…..how will we communicate after that?
we will each be in our own cut-off segment of society, our own cut-off segment of the geography, our own cut-off segment of the world…..got a landline?….i do, but i can’t reach either of my sons without cell service, because THEY DON’T…..and when they cut off cell service, we’re screwed….
yeah, it’s nice to think we have all the guns and they don’t even know how to manage the safety…..but they can shut us down….and, while WE wouldn’t go that far…..they will….
this is way worse than we ever imagined…..we can’t group and organize anymore, without the internet, because we have all switched to cell phones….and they can and will shut down the cell phones…..just like they will shut down the internet….
God Speed, all yall……
3
M A : That’s what I’m saying, the Companies and their Employees will Suffer greatly by Citizens losing Public Faith in them. The Owners of the Companies couln’t care less, which is why we need to look to the Top of the Money chain.
1
@Lowell August 10, 2018 at 9:07 pm
> Why do people think their constitutional rights of expression give them privileges on social media platforms?
>
> Are they stupid?
>
> If the civilian owners of Face Book, Twitter, Instagram,
@ Lowell August 10, 2018 at 10:30 pm
> I try really hard not to lie to myself and even harder not to lie to those I speak with. What I wrote is the ugly truth as I understand it today.
Tomorrow is another day. Try harder.
1
@chuckie August 10, 2018 at 10:31 pm
> we keep hearing how “the internet” will save us when civil war 2.0 starts…..i’m of the opinion that once civil war 2.0 starts, the whole internet – in its entirety – will “collapse”
>
> as in….will be shut down…by those who control it…zuck et al…..how will we communicate after that?
“The internet”? The Internet™ (title “case” — as it is a proper name, of a singular product), is already shut down where and when the livestock might get restless. And, like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc., if that is the “only” tool you have to communicate, then “your” comms will be down.
If “you” find that less than desirable, maybe “you” should acquire new tools.
When Companies are no longer concerned with their Bottom Line Profits choosing an Ideology enstead of Food on the Table, you know it’s time to follow the once Flowing Money to the Very Top.
Time to move to the Deep Web.
@Plantsman ~ when you are among the richest men that the world has ever known & your company loses a few billion here & there, the ‘bottom line’ matters little
the US is about to be taken over by these Fascist Oligarchs … behavior deemed ‘inappropriate’, according to their whims, will become commonplace
(my Alexa had a glitch & told me so in an unguarded moment during a recent lightning storm)
re: video- amen!
I’m actually optimistic about these events. There is a great book “The Starfish and the Spider: The Unstoppable Power of Leaderless Organizations” that describes what happens as a centralized organization give way to leaderless organization.
“If you cut off a spider’s head, it dies; if you cut off a starfish?s leg it grows a new one, and that leg can grow into an entirely new starfish. Traditional top-down organizations are like spiders, but now starfish organizations are changing the face of business and the world”
Napster began as a spider, an organization with a head and centralized command and control. Easy to attack. Each time the government tried to kill it, music sharing morphed more and more into a leaderless (peer to peer) arrangement that could not be easily targeted.
I think the more major social media companies manipulate free speech, the quicker it will spur innovation in the way we connect and communicate. The spider organizations are inadvertently making space for the starfish organizations to develop.
Why do people think their constitutional rights of expression give them privileges on social media platforms?
Are they stupid?
If the civilian owners of Face Book, Twitter, Instagram, or any other time sink of the indolent, the narcissistic, the bloviating fucktards who want most of all to have attention paid to them diss their opinions and silence their access… well, they can. It ain’t against the law.
Get used to it. You want rights to use a platform as you see fit? Build yer’ own.
I’m sick of butt hurt freeloaders bitchin’ about being “silenced” on a medium they are trying to use for free.
You want access to the public? Buy it.
That’s all I got to say about that.
PRO-TIP….. turn sound off. Turn closed captions on. Otherwise it’s like listening to a moose eating peanut butter.
Sweet Dreams, Moonpie. That’s a bad habit you’ve got there. You know what that habit will make you dream, Moonpie? You’ll dream you’re an executive. You’ll have your hands on all the controls, and you will wear a gray suit, and you will make decisions. But you know what, Moonpie? You know what those executives dream about out there behind their desks? They dream they’re great rollerballers. They dream they’re Jonathan; they have muscles, they bash in faces.
Twitter suspended Gavin McInnes and the Proud Boys today. I’m getting really sick of this shit.
i like pjw but listening to him is like listening to that meerkat lady
Lowell,
Nothing is “free”. If you aren’t paying for a product, you ARE the product.
I look at it this way…the social media companies are selling their user’s data while also controlling what is put out into the ether. They are living off of their users while simultaneously gathering data and using that data against those of whom they disagree. Now many of the bigger platforms are working together on this.
People complaining about their freedom of speech being infringed are only touching on one of the ways that social media companies are using their platforms for evil. I think the other two evils are worse…monitizing our data, and colluding with other social media companies.
I concur with your idea of starting our own platforms. I wish I had the know-how.
“Twitter suspended Gavin McInnes and the Proud Boys today. I’m getting really sick of this shit.”
That’s so they couldn’t communicate during this week ends upcoming festivities. It promises to be nasty.
… & yet, practically every ‘conservative’ website I go on has a ‘like us on Fakebook’ click-box …. whaddaya thing about that? … price of business, I suppose ….
Fur owns this venue. What gets said here, and stays up, is entirely up to him.
And that is EXACTLY as it should be.
Sometimes, I swear I can hear his teeth grinding. He’s one of the most tolerant owners of a quite large blog that I know of.
I know my post above rankled quite a few people. It’s not what they want to hear and certainly not what many want to be. But there it is.
I try really hard not to lie to myself and even harder not to lie to those I speak with. What I wrote is the ugly truth as I understand it today.
we keep hearing how “the internet” will save us when civil war 2.0 starts…..i’m of the opinion that once civil war 2.0 starts, the whole internet – in its entirety – will “collapse”
as in….will be shut down…by those who control it…zuck et al…..how will we communicate after that?
we will each be in our own cut-off segment of society, our own cut-off segment of the geography, our own cut-off segment of the world…..got a landline?….i do, but i can’t reach either of my sons without cell service, because THEY DON’T…..and when they cut off cell service, we’re screwed….
yeah, it’s nice to think we have all the guns and they don’t even know how to manage the safety…..but they can shut us down….and, while WE wouldn’t go that far…..they will….
this is way worse than we ever imagined…..we can’t group and organize anymore, without the internet, because we have all switched to cell phones….and they can and will shut down the cell phones…..just like they will shut down the internet….
God Speed, all yall……
M A : That’s what I’m saying, the Companies and their Employees will Suffer greatly by Citizens losing Public Faith in them. The Owners of the Companies couln’t care less, which is why we need to look to the Top of the Money chain.
@Lowell August 10, 2018 at 9:07 pm
> Why do people think their constitutional rights of expression give them privileges on social media platforms?
>
> Are they stupid?
>
> If the civilian owners of Face Book, Twitter, Instagram,
@ Lowell August 10, 2018 at 10:30 pm
> I try really hard not to lie to myself and even harder not to lie to those I speak with. What I wrote is the ugly truth as I understand it today.
Tomorrow is another day. Try harder.
@chuckie August 10, 2018 at 10:31 pm
> we keep hearing how “the internet” will save us when civil war 2.0 starts…..i’m of the opinion that once civil war 2.0 starts, the whole internet – in its entirety – will “collapse”
>
> as in….will be shut down…by those who control it…zuck et al…..how will we communicate after that?
“The internet”? The Internet™ (title “case” — as it is a proper name, of a singular product), is already shut down where and when the livestock might get restless. And, like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc., if that is the “only” tool you have to communicate, then “your” comms will be down.
If “you” find that less than desirable, maybe “you” should acquire new tools.