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Patrick Carroll
Ending the Department of Education may seem like a radical idea, but it’s not as crazy as it sounds.
The debate over the federal role in education has been going on for decades. Some say the feds should have a relatively large role while others say it should be relatively small. But while most people believe there should be at least some federal oversight, some believe there should be none at all.
Rep. Thomas Massie is one of those who believes there should be no federal involvement in education, and he is actively working to make that a reality. In February 2021, he introduced H.R. 899, a bill that perfectly encapsulates his views on this issue. It consists of one sentence:
“This bill terminates the Department of Education on December 31, 2022.”
This position may seem radical, but Massie is not alone. The bill had 8 cosponsors when it was introduced and has been gaining support ever since. On Monday, Massie announced that Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) decided to cosponsor the bill, bringing the total number of cosponsors to 18.
Though it may be tempting to think Massie and his supporters just don’t care about education, this is certainly not the case. If anything, they are pushing to end the federal Department of Education precisely because they care about educational outcomes. In their view, the Department is at best not helping and, at worst, may actually be part of the problem.
“Unelected bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. should not be in charge of our children’s intellectual and moral development,” said Massie when he initially introduced the bill. “States and local communities are best positioned to shape curricula that meet the needs of their students.”
Massie is echoing sentiments expressed by President Ronald Reagan in 1981, who advocated dismantling the Department of Education even though it had just begun operating in 1980. more
Won’t ever happen.
Man we have a lot of people here that have just plain given up.
“Never give up … never surrender!” ~ Commander Peter Quincey Taggert
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Well, I can’t do it. Not in my nature. Maybe to a fault.
btw, can’t Presidents terminate Departments by Executive Order? … they sure can create them … DHS anyone?
Mindless “departments” include-
Department of Energy
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
Department of Education
The Federal Bureau of Investigation
Mindless, superfluous federal fungi.
That means march them all (according to W2s) out back, and bill their families for the bullet? Right?
The subject of education is never mentioned in the US Constitution.
However, it IS mentioned in “The Communist Manifesto” and “Mein Kampf”.
@Brad ~ with ya, my man … getting long in the tooth, can’t sleep from the broken vertebrae & associated sciatica & nerve damage …
whine, whine, whine … like Bette Davis said, “gettin’ old ain’t for sissies”.
but, as long as I can stand on the line, I will
Carter formed it toward the end of his term. All it does is collect data and spend money in a completely political manner. And a different department can collect data.
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Every day is a Great Day to Be Alive.
https://youtu.be/d4tSE2w53ts
@Brad ~ I give thanks every day I’m here
& thanks for the Tritt … haven’t listened to him in a while
hang in there, bro … we ain’t much, but we’re all we got … & that’s enough
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I’m with you pal. It is indeed enough.
TN Tuxedo April 25, 2022 at 10:24 pm
The subject of education is never mentioned in the US Constitution.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Education belongs at the state and local levels.
Ending the DOE is a start but not enough
I propose this amendment to the constitution, ether as a stand alone amendment or an addition to the 10th amendment.
Congress shall not fund direct impose or force any public education policy upon the States, nor shall congress bribe or coerce any state to implement such policy or policies.
Except as a benefit of employment with the federal government or as a benefit, for military service, Congress shall not fund or guarantee, any funds for the education of any individual.
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Stupid idea! Reagan was losing his mental capacity, this shows that happenning even more.
Said here many times GWB’s “common Cor” would never have been were it not for a hyper liberal GOPe Dole. Reason #4 i did not vote for Dole.
Ronny tried 8 straight !”…GOVT IS THE PROBLEM!”!?!@#$%^&*!
Dole, unlike the Bush/Rove clique, was a good
Republican; but as Gore said in ’96 debate “Most liberal man in Congress for 50 years!”!
JoeyB
Have a shit sammich on me.
DOE was created as a payback to teacher unions by Jimmy. It educates no one. It certainly doesn’t raise standards. Who can show me where scores are higher now then they were in the early 70s
I get the feeling this joeyb character is the anonymous that use to haunt these pages back before the handle “anonymous” was banned. He has the same insipid responses. Amirite?
Department of “Education” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nancy was the real prez, Ronny lost to alzheimer’s disease long before he finished his term.
Donny Jr says, you don’t need no education, just look at me, look at me, look at me.
@ELiMay: You funny and maybe just a little bit strange!
Having worked in the Education field for 15 years, I can tell you that eliminating the Federal DOE is EXACTLY what is needed.
That stupid Common Core? The states started with it and when they realized it was a pile of crap, they started dumping it like dominoes.
Keep whatever the US Constitution does NOT give the federal government (as their duty) with the states. That’s why we are a Constitutional Republic.
The federal government has NO POWER except what the Constitution gives them.