The only thing I find annoying about the direction the paper unrolls is when it is random. Pick one direction and stick with it!
I don’t trust any hotel I stay in where the maids are too dumb to know the correct roll direction.
Obviously NOT patented by one of those creative muslims…
Damn! Vindicated after all these years. Certain members of my family put the rolls in “the other way.” I always change them.
Wait ’till I confront them in the morning. Just wait!
The same goes for paper towels, right?
Thanks Doc. You made my day.
Agreed Moe, the other direction defies logic.
“Where should I grab the free sheet?”
“Duh, I don’t know because you can’t see it, it’s facing THE FUCKING WALL.”
AAARghhhh!
Illogical shit fries the circuits in my brain!
With a bidet, all you need is a small towel.
The wrong way is only helpful if you have a cat that paws at it. The correct way will yield an entire roll unrolled onto the ground.
Facing the wall is also unhygienic.
You have to paw at it with fecal-fingers to find the start.
Yes, fecal-fingers because not only are the hosts too stupid to properly install a roll of TP, they buy the cheapest Sheryl Crow crap on the market.
1891?
One would think shit-paper would have been invented in say…um 0002…
According to a “Dear Abby” column from years ago, your way is the wrong way. My husband wouldn’t let me change the roll because I did it like a GIRL!! In other words, the opposite way the MALE inventor diagrams it.
Hey Moetom …… let me know if ya need a place to crash after you explain to “the certain members of your family” about the way toilet paper should be “installed” (I’m guessin’ you might want an ice bag to go too). I’m probably only about a 20 hour drive from you, and that still may not be far enough LOL.
My ex and 2 of her friends got into a discussion with me about this many moons ago. After I explained things in a logical and unemotional fashion, one of the ladies agreed with me that the illustration above was the obviously correct way to install toilet paper (not my ex of course). She got put on the other two’s shit list at that point and I never heard anything from or about her again. True story.
thats not what ann landers said
My cat lays in wait for TP. She sees a roll just sitting there she goes into attack mode.
THANK YOU.
ROTbathroomFLMFAO!
My mother, one of the.worst know-it-alls I ever met, was quite firm in her insistence that the “other” way was the absolutely correct way to install a new roll, and that if you did the reverse you were a morally inferior profligate and a total loserino moron as well. I’ve continued to do it her way, whether out of habit or subconscious memorial to her.
I don’t know if I can reverse my habit after so many years. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
BTW, about 40 years ago the Ann Landers advice column got into this topic. Readers responded with so many letters that Ann had to hire extra temporary staff to process the mail. She later said in an interview that she was never, ever touching that topic in the column again.
Call me a rebel.
Thanks Bubba,s Bro.
BTW. Many years ago Johnny Carson made an off the cuff remark on his Tonight Show that there was a shortage of toilet paper.
The next day the shelves were stripped bare of TP. I think it went nationwide
If you look carefully, you should notice the image does not depict the roll mounted on anything. There is nothing in the patent record that describes a correct mounting method.
As the owner of more than a dozen patents I am familiar with the process. The image was probably shown that way to highlight the serrations that were the novel feature for the patent.
The Dear Abby I read said the print should be showing when you hang it. That would be over the top like this diagram.
So, no, Dear Abby did not suggest otherwise.
The Under – against-the-wall way – is unhygienic. Period.
Whenever I run across a friend’s bathroom and see it backwards I re-orient it to “over-the-top”.
Not knowing if they’re actually anal about their toilet paper doesn’t matter. Either I’ve helped them be more hygienic or I’ve effed with their head.
Either way I get a smile out of it.
Jethro – undeniably, that roll’s outer surface is facing you.
Orientation may have been so obvious to the illustrator that saying so seems on a level of informing a completely blank mind that doesn’t even understand anything he’s looking at.
Dadof4
I looked the patent up at the US Patent Office website.
The novelty of a patent application needs to be fully described in order to receive the patent. If it doesn’t show the intent or describe it in the text it isn’t part of the patent. The applicant clearly showed the serrations and showed them as fabricated, and after torn. He did not describe how to tear it.
Unfortunately, the supporting text is lost, and only the image is available. So I guess we will never really know how Mr Wheeler intended his invention to be used.
I wish someone would describe how their “over the top” approach works.
I let it fall against the wall. The loose end then falls below the roll and is easy to grab without touching anything else. When unrolled and tugged slightly above a horizontal orientation, the tear almost always happens at the point of tangency (when the serration is positioned at that point). What is left on the roll then falls down below the roll and is ready to grab the next time.
One handed – every time.
Jethro, I’ll defer to your expertise, but I leave it that the roll was not depicted on it’s side or any other orientation – millions of bathrooms across the world have them on posts not hangers – it is a higher percentage assumption that it’s depicted as it was used at the time rather than convoluting the diagram in an unspecified way to reach a specific end result not depicted or mentioned.
It’s like putting in the Gorilla factor when trying to do Common Core Math when a leap assumed.
As for “what’s the big deal” – By your description, your roller is not like the majority of them out there. It hangs freely without touching anything, using it or not.
A yuge majority of them, private and public, either have a curved back surface that prevents the hanging end from hanging freely in the back or gravity keeps the roll against the wall with a swiveling wire hanger.
Even the commercial ones that have a huge roll of sand paper mounted sideways for your convenience can be a nightmare if hung backwards relative to that curved guide wall. If you’ve ever had to push the large roll around to find the end and you could only get a sheet or two off using only hand – they hung it backwards. Think of all the filthy hands touching that roll trying to find the end and those touched places are all getting rubbed on that curved guide surface within the roll holder.
Very unhygienic. You weren’t the first or last to put your toilet-going hands on a permanent, oft-used surface to reach something (the paper) that should and could be the only thing touched by toilet-going hands if it were hung the other way.
I just stand the roll on the holder.
Anal
That’s totally over the top.
Jethro is absolutely correct, it’s an image for a the patent office…Jethro’s got 12…me?…I only gots 1, but if you ever had a cat or even a puppy, then you’d roll it the correct manner… gravity makes the paper fall in the best direction for total toilet paper control….
Absolutely barbaric.
The only thing I find annoying about the direction the paper unrolls is when it is random. Pick one direction and stick with it!
I don’t trust any hotel I stay in where the maids are too dumb to know the correct roll direction.
Obviously NOT patented by one of those creative muslims…
Damn! Vindicated after all these years. Certain members of my family put the rolls in “the other way.” I always change them.
Wait ’till I confront them in the morning. Just wait!
The same goes for paper towels, right?
Thanks Doc. You made my day.
Agreed Moe, the other direction defies logic.
“Where should I grab the free sheet?”
“Duh, I don’t know because you can’t see it, it’s facing THE FUCKING WALL.”
AAARghhhh!
Illogical shit fries the circuits in my brain!
With a bidet, all you need is a small towel.
The wrong way is only helpful if you have a cat that paws at it. The correct way will yield an entire roll unrolled onto the ground.
Facing the wall is also unhygienic.
You have to paw at it with fecal-fingers to find the start.
Yes, fecal-fingers because not only are the hosts too stupid to properly install a roll of TP, they buy the cheapest Sheryl Crow crap on the market.
1891?
One would think shit-paper would have been invented in say…um 0002…
I stand (sit? unroll?) with Moetom and Loco
Life before toilet paper. The things you learn and explore on IOTWR.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/48950/what-did-people-use-toilet-paper
imagine the profits if toilet paper could be introduced to the muslim community? All xxx zillion of them.
@eternal cracker
Cat treadmill
http://tinyurl.com/j4gpx2r
According to a “Dear Abby” column from years ago, your way is the wrong way. My husband wouldn’t let me change the roll because I did it like a GIRL!! In other words, the opposite way the MALE inventor diagrams it.
Hey Moetom …… let me know if ya need a place to crash after you explain to “the certain members of your family” about the way toilet paper should be “installed” (I’m guessin’ you might want an ice bag to go too). I’m probably only about a 20 hour drive from you, and that still may not be far enough LOL.
My ex and 2 of her friends got into a discussion with me about this many moons ago. After I explained things in a logical and unemotional fashion, one of the ladies agreed with me that the illustration above was the obviously correct way to install toilet paper (not my ex of course). She got put on the other two’s shit list at that point and I never heard anything from or about her again. True story.
thats not what ann landers said
My cat lays in wait for TP. She sees a roll just sitting there she goes into attack mode.
THANK YOU.
ROTbathroomFLMFAO!
My mother, one of the.worst know-it-alls I ever met, was quite firm in her insistence that the “other” way was the absolutely correct way to install a new roll, and that if you did the reverse you were a morally inferior profligate and a total loserino moron as well. I’ve continued to do it her way, whether out of habit or subconscious memorial to her.
I don’t know if I can reverse my habit after so many years. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
BTW, about 40 years ago the Ann Landers advice column got into this topic. Readers responded with so many letters that Ann had to hire extra temporary staff to process the mail. She later said in an interview that she was never, ever touching that topic in the column again.
Call me a rebel.
Thanks Bubba,s Bro.
BTW. Many years ago Johnny Carson made an off the cuff remark on his Tonight Show that there was a shortage of toilet paper.
The next day the shelves were stripped bare of TP. I think it went nationwide
If you look carefully, you should notice the image does not depict the roll mounted on anything. There is nothing in the patent record that describes a correct mounting method.
As the owner of more than a dozen patents I am familiar with the process. The image was probably shown that way to highlight the serrations that were the novel feature for the patent.
The Dear Abby I read said the print should be showing when you hang it. That would be over the top like this diagram.
So, no, Dear Abby did not suggest otherwise.
The Under – against-the-wall way – is unhygienic. Period.
Whenever I run across a friend’s bathroom and see it backwards I re-orient it to “over-the-top”.
Not knowing if they’re actually anal about their toilet paper doesn’t matter. Either I’ve helped them be more hygienic or I’ve effed with their head.
Either way I get a smile out of it.
Jethro – undeniably, that roll’s outer surface is facing you.
Orientation may have been so obvious to the illustrator that saying so seems on a level of informing a completely blank mind that doesn’t even understand anything he’s looking at.
Dadof4
I looked the patent up at the US Patent Office website.
The novelty of a patent application needs to be fully described in order to receive the patent. If it doesn’t show the intent or describe it in the text it isn’t part of the patent. The applicant clearly showed the serrations and showed them as fabricated, and after torn. He did not describe how to tear it.
Unfortunately, the supporting text is lost, and only the image is available. So I guess we will never really know how Mr Wheeler intended his invention to be used.
I wish someone would describe how their “over the top” approach works.
I let it fall against the wall. The loose end then falls below the roll and is easy to grab without touching anything else. When unrolled and tugged slightly above a horizontal orientation, the tear almost always happens at the point of tangency (when the serration is positioned at that point). What is left on the roll then falls down below the roll and is ready to grab the next time.
One handed – every time.
Jethro, I’ll defer to your expertise, but I leave it that the roll was not depicted on it’s side or any other orientation – millions of bathrooms across the world have them on posts not hangers – it is a higher percentage assumption that it’s depicted as it was used at the time rather than convoluting the diagram in an unspecified way to reach a specific end result not depicted or mentioned.
It’s like putting in the Gorilla factor when trying to do Common Core Math when a leap assumed.
As for “what’s the big deal” – By your description, your roller is not like the majority of them out there. It hangs freely without touching anything, using it or not.
A yuge majority of them, private and public, either have a curved back surface that prevents the hanging end from hanging freely in the back or gravity keeps the roll against the wall with a swiveling wire hanger.
Even the commercial ones that have a huge roll of sand paper mounted sideways for your convenience can be a nightmare if hung backwards relative to that curved guide wall. If you’ve ever had to push the large roll around to find the end and you could only get a sheet or two off using only hand – they hung it backwards. Think of all the filthy hands touching that roll trying to find the end and those touched places are all getting rubbed on that curved guide surface within the roll holder.
Very unhygienic. You weren’t the first or last to put your toilet-going hands on a permanent, oft-used surface to reach something (the paper) that should and could be the only thing touched by toilet-going hands if it were hung the other way.
I just stand the roll on the holder.
Anal
That’s totally over the top.
Jethro is absolutely correct, it’s an image for a the patent office…Jethro’s got 12…me?…I only gots 1, but if you ever had a cat or even a puppy, then you’d roll it the correct manner… gravity makes the paper fall in the best direction for total toilet paper control….