Depressing analysis shows how the GOP has the fix in for the establishment’s pathway to victory.
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Depressing analysis shows how the GOP has the fix in for the establishment’s pathway to victory.
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“The GOP FIX is in” or ” Why Trump is our only hope”. Or “Donald Trump, The Fly In The GOP’s Soup”.
The GOP establishment (country clubbers) have defeated many conservative candidates by deceit, deception, out right lies and $100’s of millions of RNC and PAC campaign dollars.
The ends justifies the means. They’ll do anything to hold power over pork projects, grants, aid, committee assignments and their failed progressive agenda. The GOP needs to be cleansed of this disease.
boehner and mcCONnel are leaders of this shameful agenda which is contrary to the GOP Principles (when they had some and fought for them).
Purely disgusting.
It’s not we the establishment, we the lobbyist’s or we the special interest’s. It’s we the people and WE WILL PREVAIL! Politicians; take notice.
The only reason for the crowd running for president is to take votes away from everybody except Bush. Primary rules have been changed so that winner take all the Florida delegates Thus Bush could win all Florida delegates with only 25% of the vote, or as long as he gets more % than any other.
The “also rans” should get out before they dilute the vote and leave Jeb with the highest percentage.
We are going to have to dismantle the corrupt, unworkable, stinking, Republican party and start a new system that won’t surrender power to corrupt politicians, as it is now.
Or, we can have a big fucking civil war. Take your pick Washington brown-nosers. You lose either way!
I am proud of the fact that I haven’t sent a penny to the GOP since
the Romney clusterfuck.. I hope there are millions like me. Kick the bastards in the purse.
Zonga, most of “…the also rans” are what have been termed SPLITTERS over at The Conservative Treehouse…
Pataki – for New York
Perry – for Texas
Rubio – for Florida
Graham – for South Carolina
Kasich – for Ohio
Christie – for Joisey (which exist, unknown), etcetera
That is to say, many of them have their campaigns funded by mega-donors through PACs and SuperPACs, and in effect do their bidding. Their bidding happens to be (for the moment, as you say); lessen the chances of someone like a Cruz or Paul from getting too many votes…then, when appropriate, drop out and throw your delegates to !Cheb!.
And, THAT’S THE KEY: these tools are there ONLY to collect !Cheb! votes FOR HIM, because !Cheb! is such a F*CK*NG LOSER on his own.
The 19 articles listed make up an incredible series there!
Demonrat and Republicrat.
Bolshevik and Menshevik.
They’re in it for the power and the money.
None of them gives a fuck about America,
or Americans, for that matter.
If we want our country back,
we’re gonna have to TAKE it back.
Nobody dismantled the Whig Party.
There ARE other options.
But, yes, the GOPe is DEAD and LOSES either way.
Not so much as a Goddamned wooden nickel from me.
I’d sooner kick em in the balls if they had any.
Your first way is done when the other side is civilized. The second way is done when there is no compromise.
They’ve clearly shown that they’re double dealers and will adhere to the rules only when they’ve gamed the system to their advantage.
Do you compromise with someone who is entirely untrustworthy?
I don’t.
I, for one, am investing in precious metals–lead and copper. (And I’m not alone.)
Seems to me that this analysis should apply to any of the candidates – including Trump. I may have misread the article, but its assuming that if you eliminate Trump as a candidate, it seems a far reach to assume that all of his support would apportion across the remaining candidates. It seems more likely that the bulk would then go to viable candidates like Carson and Cruz. As they begin to thin out they would then coalesce among the strongest remaining candidate. If the fix is truly in, then it really doesn’t matter who is in – Trump, Carson, Cruz… the splitters will still split and toss support to Yebbie.
Yeah… I used to like The Conservative Treehouse, but I’m a little tired of the Trump rah rah coming from there. I prefer to examine the candidates and make up my own mind.
This, .. is how Congress operates… and this is why, from time to time: ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME.
It is not a coincidence that the collective noun for a group of baboons is a CONGRESS.
https://imagineer7.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/why-every-member-of-congress-needs-to-be-thrown-out-of-office-2/ .
The funny blog post aside, I wouldn’t say ever member needs to be replaced , but at least 95% of them.
So you’re here to bash Trump? Cuz most of us here like him too, and the CTH is spot on about the Dems & Rinos trying to rig the election so that Bush is the Republican candidate. Bush is the only candidate guaranteed to lose against WHOEVER the Dems nominate – even a proven liars, criminals & traitors like all the dems are.
Also, are you saying you can’t make up your own mind if you’re listening to opinions that are pro-Trump? I think you’re trying to be disingenuous.
Remember Chris McDaniel.
We are up against TWO formidable enemies: Democrats, and Republicans.
Wow… that was pretty defensive. No, I’m not here to bash Trump. I was also pretty clear about stating that I like to examine the individual candidates and make up my own mind. If anything, I was voicing a preference for sites that tend to look at all candidates with a bit of wariness. I don’t really see anything disingenuous about what I said at all. Troubling that you did.
True. One of the reasons I have a strong preference for term limits for all national offices, not just the Presidency.
What are you still so.confused about ??? Maybe we an help.
Yes and no.
According to the article, Trump is the only one that is a “spoiler” in the US Chamber of Commerce’s/GOPe’s plan to hand !Cheb! the nomination…even if he only gets 15-20% of the votes. He gets the win by others throwing their delegates to !Cheb! when they step down.
Trump would not, and I believe the article even suggests that many simplay would not go with one candidate or another.
Yet the key point is: all the other candidates – Cruz included – are beholden to their donor PACs and SuperPACs.
So, were Trump to leave, “the plan” goes back into effect just as before Trump had entered the race and messed everything up for them…meaning trash Cruz, Paul (never mind Identity Politics puppets like Carson and Fiorina) and coronate !Cheb!.
p.s. As to your earlier comment about The Conservative Treehouse, I *love* the site, and use them alot for resource info…yet suspect I know *exactly* what you’re talking about. I’ve tried to get this posted there, and had it deleted:
Some folks here who seem to be dead set on crushing and humiliating anyone with whom they disagree about Trump (in particular, about Cruz)…and THAT on a thread with which (it seems to me) sundance was trying to – as I used the phrase above – build bridges with Cruz supporters.
You don’t like building bridges with Cruz supporters? Don’t wanna? No prob. Don’t bother.
But about those folks I mentioned above…some seem to be drunk with “power” (like [name redacted] prattling on about how she could but didn’t ban this or that person…like who cares and what does that have to do with anything anyway?!), and others respond with overkill responses and what come off like a poisonously snotty attitude that WELL exceeds snark.
Well, ya know what?!? Surprise: They’re LOUSY SALESMEN! And, IF YOU are going to try to PERSUADE people to come over to YOUR point of view (as I think sundance was doing) then YOU DON’T “MAKE THE SALE” BY DUMPING ON THEM.
And that’s all these folks end up doing. As a personal example: instead of responding with ONE post showing how I was in error on a point, two folks put together about 10 or 12 posts, beating a dead horse until the glue that was made from it was dry…great way to sell a customer (/sarcasm),
Now, in my line of work, I’m used to conceited, counterproductive people like that, but I doubt many readers are…and that is to say: THEY WERE LOUSY SALESMEN FOR GETTING CRUZ PEOPLE OVER TO TRUMP.
These people should know better.
Just as surely as they made Trump sign a loyalty oath to the GOPe, they got Jeb in a backroom and made him sign an oath that he wouldn’t try to undo any of Obama’s shitty catastrophies, that he’d continue to let executive agencies govern by rules and that he’d appoint Hillary to the first available SCOTUS spot. His fat little hand was probably trembling as he giddily scribbled his signature.
“THEY WERE LOUSY SALESMEN FOR GETTING CRUZ PEOPLE OVER TO TRUMP.”
Yea except I think Cruz will eventually take care of that.
@ MBiaAH
I don’t think Snorkdoodle is confused.
SEE my post below to him.
Some of the folks over there have, in the past few months, gone from enthusiastic to fanatical.
Their posts DO turn people off…and away.
It may not be sundance’s intent, but he can’t control all the posts (in fact, that’s part of the problem…again, SEE my post below).
BB, you now how I like Cruz.
I trust you can imagine how much MORE I like winning the 2016 Presidential campaign.
I remind myself of the saying,
“The perfect is the enemy of the good.”
Would Cruz be a good Prez? HOO WEE!
But: what is the liklihood (what are the probabilities) of him winning the Primaries…considering the GOPe’s “Plan” to coronate !Cheb! ?!? Like I’ve said, being in Florida THIS time is a good thing; I can see which candidate gets how many delegates before I vote.
For me, this time around is too important to merely vote on principle. If it were, I’d vote Cruz anyway. Others here might go with Paul (*cough*). Others with Deez Nutz (WOO HOO!). But I want either Cruz or Trump; they’re the only two I can place my trust/faith/hope that they WANT TO (considering Congress…they MIGHT) IMPROVE AMERICA.
I trust you’re aware of the (to date) 19 (!) articles at the end of the linked article…sort of like a resource center. LOTS of good stuff there.
It’s only ONE enemy: the DNC/GOPe Party.
If we’re luck we will get Trump/Cruz. It’s pretty obvious the two have something cooking. As far as Trump goes I think everyone’s coming at him from a slightly wrong angle. Including The Tree House. I’m slammed at work right now but as a business man I’ll give you my take on the next appropriate post.
You’re missing the point. Since he’s a self-funded candidate and not an insdie-the-party man, he’s the only person who could thwart Heb. The delegate counts, primary dates and rules have been “massaged” ONCE AGAIN for the GOPe to “get their man” as the “R” nominee — while Ted Cruz was distracted with the NRSC business!
I agree with Snorkdoodle and Czar. I love sundance and Conservative Treehouse. I’ve used stuff from them and read them often. They are my #2 site I read (after iOTWr).
I just don’t know if I’m sold on the inevitability of the GOPe plan. Yes, it does seem hopeless. But most of you all know that I don’t give up hope. I come close, but then I remember who really is in charge. And I pray to him often.
And I’m NOT anti-Trump. I’m more for Ted Cruz right now, but I don’t have to make a choice since Minnesota doesn’t seem to count. Even if we were first, I still wouldn’t decide today. I know that I will vote for either Trump or Cruz if they become the nominee. That should be good enough for anyone right now.
@ BB
I can well imagine a Trump Cabinet not unlike the one Trevor Loudon touted for Cruz.
We’ll just have to wait and see how things pan out. 6 months to go!
Mark Bradman Aka Sundance the ex grocery store manager repeatedly got his facts wrong in the Jessica chambers case according to Got News.
http://gotnews.com/conservative-treehouse-repeatedly-gets-facts-wrong-jessicachambers-case/
As far as Sundance putting Ted Cruz’s faults as he sees them in a coffee can and burying them I wonder how big of a can he would need to put Trumps in. And as far as Sundance’s assertion that there is no way Ted Cruz can win and asking if someone can show him a way Cruz can, I have an answer for him,Ted Cruz has God on his side.
Brad, I think we are yet to see the Cruz/Trump relationship (not the other way around). I’ll hold my thoughts of what I’m thinking of being beyond that for now.
I’ll send you and Tsunami something tomorrow. A little nugget I found. You and Tsunami are both my pals and I respect you both, but I’m coming at this from a little different vantage point. I’m not saying I’m right. I’m saying I’ve had enough.
Lol, you know I tried to make a bet with another contributor here that you would make a post like this at the end of the thread. He said no bet. Damn it.