The Vietnamization of Ukraine – IOTW Report

The Vietnamization of Ukraine
As Ukraine’s defeat in the war moves closer, the neocons are desperate to draw the US further into the fight. Over the weekend, former US State Department official Victoria Nuland told ABC News that the US must help facilitate Ukrainian missile attacks deep inside Russian territory. The Biden Administration has to this point avoided involvement in such attacks, likely because Russian president Vladimir Putin has warned that Russia will strike any facility that supplies or facilitates strikes inside of Russia, wherever they may be.

It’s a clear warning from a nuclear power, but as Nuland and her fellow neocons see their Ukraine project failing, they demand escalation. This is just what they did in their previous disastrous projects like the Iraq War, the attacks on Syria and Libya, and the 20-year occupation of Afghanistan. For them the failure is never because it was a bad idea in the first place, but that not enough lives and resources were poured into that bad idea to create a good outcome. more

15 Comments on The Vietnamization of Ukraine

  1. We’re already in WWIII light. It will quickly become Hard Core WWIII if we facilitate Ukrainian missile attacks deep inside Russian territory. The Biden Administration has to this point avoided involvement in such attacks, but let’s not forget that we have a Fuck Up looking for a place to happen in the White House!

  2. 200B$ of your hard earned went to a drug addict faggot.
    History clearly shows what happens to fools who try to attack the HUGE RUSSIAN BEAR !

  3. The military industrial complex sure likes the profits and the politicians love their donations. Oh, and there’s the matter of all that “aid” being laundered and stolen. Our politicians will sacrifice the lives of the innocents and our own young men to keep the gravy train running. Cold ruthless monsters.

  4. That Ukraine will ultimately lose this war is almost a mathematical certainty. Russian has a deeper pool of military aged men, as well as numerical superiority in weaponry. With gambling, the house has the mathematical edge; the gambler will lose in the long run. Russia has the mathematical edge in the long run with regard to Ukraine.

    So what happened with the United States in Vietnam, Afghanistan (also Russia) and Iraq? To use the gambling analogy again, there are certain tactics that can sometimes change the mathematical odds – knowledgable and disciplined card counters can turn a house edge into a player’s edge over the long run. In Vietnam and Afghanistan in particular, the will of the locals to drive the foreign invaders out, even over the long run, at a minimum evened the odds of winning. If we wanted to be in Vietnam, we could have stayed in Vietnam as a military matter – but we probably shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

    Russian and Putin have, so far, exhibited the political will to win in Ukraine. The Ukranians, on the other hand, don’t seem as excited about defeating the Russian invaders. Large numbers of military aged Ukrainian men have fled the country, many of their cities have been devasted, and their infrastructure is under continuous attack. So, at least in my uneducated opinion, Russia is still the odds-on favorite to win this “conflict.”

    Neocons and others who believe we can engage in foreign wars in order to promote democracy are, again in my opinion, morons. They believe we can install a democracy (or more accurately a democratically elected representative government) in countries and areas that have rarely or never known democracy. Realistically, Ukraine has almost always been under someone else’s thumb. Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq have never known democracy, and it was lunacy to believe that if only we put our military in, democracy would break out.

    One thing Ukraine, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq have in common is that we may possibly have been able to negotiate an acceptable peace if the process had started soon enough. But we will never know because we never tried.

  5. “The murderous bitch “retired”, so with what authority does she “demand”.

    She still has her Security Clearance and back channels. Deep Staters never retire, and they don’t even get benched. “Retired” and “Former” are only for consumption by the public.

  6. “Ukrainian missile attacks deep inside Russian territory” …with traceable U.S. missiles declared for such us.

    1. Putin would haver no choice but to retaliate.
    2. Any U.S. target would be fair game in a typical, Russian tit-for-tat approach to aggression.
    3. If an attack with U.S. missile is particularly deadly, Russia will moderately “up the ante.” Example: Hit the Kremlin and kill 1,000. Retaliation: destroy the Pentagon and issue one final warning.

    Apparently, Ukraine has no ‘rocket scientists’ and doesn’t build their own offensive missiles.

    But, interestingly, this IS a game of hypersonic rocket science combined with poker.

  7. “… we may possibly have been able to negotiate an acceptable peace if the process…” Come on Wyatt! Ain’t no money in peace! And while we are at it, the nwo globalists are seeking to cut the world population by some 93%… so plenty of cannon fodder, if the jabs don’t kill them (us) first.

  8. My only hope is that Putin knows we didn’t elect that husk of what used to be a human being.

    He would do us all a favor by eliminating DC while congress is in session and leave the rest of the country so we can pick up the pieces and take over the rest of the left-controlled cities.


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