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ToyotaMotor outsold General Motors in the U.S. for the first time ever during a quarter and is expected to be America’s bestselling automaker.
The Japanese automaker on Thursday reported sales of 688,813 vehicles in the U.S. from April through June. That compares to GM at 688,236 vehicles during the second quarter. Toyota beat analyst expectations, while GM slightly missed forecasts. More
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But how can that be?
I’m certain GM supports black lives matter and changed their logo for queer month?
Well it aint rocket science – produce a superior product, and you can expect superior results. Econ 101.
I just bought a new Toyota a few months ago – very nice car, and assembled in the US. Will not buy another car from Government Motors.
I first discovered Toyotas in 1978 when I bought a ’74 Corolla from a friend. Prior to that I thought Volkswagens were well-made, but this car was put together like a freakin’ Swiss watch. Since then we’ve owned 2 Cressidas, one Avalon, a 4-runner, and a Highlander.
As far as I’m concerned, once you go Jap you’ll never buy crap.
😉
I don’t know much about modern vehicles but how to make repairs on them. The last new vehicle I bought was in 2005, and it has been in a junkyard for about eight years… not because I wrecked it, but because it was a piece of shit.
That particular winter (2013) the only vehicle I had that would even start and run was my 1984 MB 300D. I still have that car, even though it needs a new radiator.
I’m not sure what my point is. The Fords failed me, no, I’m not anti-Ford. The Mazdas failed me, no, I’m not anti-Mazda. The Chevys failed me, no, I’m not anti-Chevy.
I’m not pro-MB. The Lord knows what oceans of bullshit I have swam through and will swim through to keep them on the road… and all those other vehicle names.
Again, I’m not sure what I’m trying to say.
I guess what I want to say is I prefer vehicles with some seats and a steering wheel. And preferably a manual transmission.
All this other crap on engines and vehicles is beyond me. I can fix it, but I have no idea why you would want it.
It wasn’t just the EPA who fucked everything up. It was the fucking morons behind the wheel who fucked everything up even more.
Depends on what you’re after. Toyota has no product to compete with a Corvette or even a Camaro. GM builds the best four wheeler because of their differentials. The only truck on the market that’s a true four wheeler. The Duramax/Allison combo is tough to beat. But I wouldn’t buy a new one. Having said that GM has no answer for the Four Runners. GM midsized products sucks. Toyota builds a very strong chassis. My wife and kids were T Boned in her Land Cruiser at a high rate of speed. Totaled the Land Cruiser. They walked away with no injuries. I’m surprised GM still has some viable products considering how mismanaged they are.
Erik, we still don’t know what the hell you are saying but I will raise my margarita glass to you and join in your inebriation.
BTW, I prefer a manual as well.
A Mazda Miata is fun as fuck as a Six Speed Manual.
Gay as an Automatic.
PS, if you don’t want you car stolen put a sign on it that reads:
WARNING THIEVES…
-Manual Transmission
-AC Doesn’t Work
Brad, I grew up as a Camaro guy, then a Corvette guy.
drove many and loved em all.
The new Vettes are awesome still.
The recent Camaros kinda suck. They have the smallest profile windows.
Unsafe as hell, I felt like I was driving with vertigo…
I simply want a vehicle that starts and runs in the extreme cold, or the extreme heat. And I can work on it, and repair, and maintain it with a minimum of computers. That’s all I’m really asking. A whole bunch of wrenches, sockets, pullers, and feeler gauges. And a good VOM.
That’s all I ask. And a good chisel, and a vise. And a good hammer.
I feel ya Erik.
I was working with a 25 yr old guy and I mentioned a “Feeler Gauge.”
He didn’t know what the hell that was, nor points and condenser.
I am computer savvy but I grew up repairing cars with no training whatsoever.
Let’s face it, we lived in the golden era.
*sigh
I think we did, Loco.
I was a TL1 cat, and a Dad Trained mechanic.
We do work well together.
I can only do any of it because of my Dad.
Even the TL1.
I’m on my last American car now, a Ford 2003 F150 as a daily driver.
*I’ve had a Ford Bronco II, an F250 and now the F150. The 150 has been good. But the other two were pieces of shit.
*Only GM car I ever had was a 1973 Chevy Nova. My friends nicknamed it Mr Shit, a rusted out shitbox.
*Had a 1978 Toyota Corolla, new, ran great. But a real tin can.
*Had an Audi for a while. Good car.
*Favorite car ever was a Chrysler Sebring convertible.
*Worst new car I ever bought was a Dodge Dakota V6 piece of fucking shit. Right at the 36000 mile warranty expiration, major shit started going wrong.
But after the 2008-2009 bailout/theft of GM and Chrysler during the New Depression, I swore I would NEVER buy another vehicle made by UAW union workers.
So my last two purchases have been a Hyundai Santa Fe and a Hyundai Elantra. Best. Cars. Ever. I wish Hyundai would make a midsize pickup to compete with the Toyota Tacoma or Nissan Frontier. I’d buy one in a heartbeat.
Remember when Toyota was building the Nova (iirc) for Chevy? We called it the ToyLet.
Toyota/Toyoda. Same company. They build these too and they are bad ass.
https://www.toyoda.com/machines/horizontal-machining-centers
We’ve had Toyotas for 14 years and will not buy anything else. 100% reliable and trouble free (Camry’s and the old style Venza).
The Ford’s were money pits and the Chevy’s were bigger money pits.
The one American car I wish I still had was my 1972 6 cylinder Gremlin.
Sadly, I think it’s a top-down issue.
The Japanese still instill virtue in work and production.
American corporations are vessels for virtue signaling and the worker unions allow the worst employees keep their jobs no matter how incompetent.
Yes, some foreign/domestic factories in the US are still decent but those days will be over with the democrats in charge.
@ Brad: That may partly explain why Toyotas are so much better than anything else. They build their own machine tools.
I have never been able to take a GM to the dealer esp. or my personal mechanic and had the problem be isolated to the specific issue. There is always something else, or a part that would not separate etc. One repair always seemed to daisy chain into more issues.
I obviously didn’t use GM dealers unless it was something my mechanic said “Fuck No” to esp. when the vehicles were newer and my God the way they abuse women who brought the vehicles in. They would also treat me very different if I showed up in My Blue Collar work clothes rather than jeans & a clean shirt. They were cheaper and did not screw around when I was in the Blues with work boots.
Switched to Subaru. The few issues are dealt with professionally, on budget, & NO ISSUES WHAT SO EVER they way they treat my wife vs me. Toyota own a significant part of Subaru.
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More irony. GM relies on a shit load of huge Canadian Machine shops for Transmission part. They have rows ad rows of Mitsubishi Horizontal Pallet systems. The same guys that built the Zero.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but my 2015 F350 can pull 16,000 pounds, has a turbodiesel that can give a muscle car a rush in the short haul, and the dealership I take it to for minor repairs (thanks to the democrats it’s all emissions related) turns it around quickly and fixed right. Top notch. I never understood the Jap car fetish, especially when I drove a pretty much never maintained ’76 K car to the junkyard at 350,000 miles.
I’ve owned a Toyota, an FJ Cruiser. Sorta liked it but it rode like shit except when off road. Traded it for a RAM. Couldn’t pull a trailer to save its life. It was cheesy. I’m at 150,000 of the 500,000 miles my truck will probably go.
Ask any Honda owner with 200,000+ miles how many engines they’re on, it’s funny.
My wife’s Buick is really an Open, we will see how long it lasts. At least the deal was free engines for life. 😀
The only reason Toyota is outselling American makers is because of microchips. I guess the Chinese aren’t you mad at them. 😀 Try and buy a new American truck right now.
That’s OK – Ford is now recalling more vehicles than GM sold in that time period.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2021/07/16/ford-recalls-explorer-aviator-f350/4581626450470/
Learned a lot from driving GM cars in my early years, a lot about repairing junk cars and throwing away my money. Bought a few new Hondas but switched to Toyotas about 15yrs ago they have been the best vehicles I’ve owned by far.
Wouldn’t touch a GM vehicle ever. Nothing exciting produced by them, all soviet style sameness. Hell, legos have more curves than a GM truck. I’ll stick with my 99 Tacoma that still runs like a top.
Fuck Toyota. If you think the 2020 election was stolen by the Dems, they don’t want your business. At this point, my next new car will be a Schwinn or a Huffy.
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I’ll see ya that and raise you this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN27D2AJ
Brakes???!!??? All Ford’s recalls are for emissions for my truck. Toyota spends a lot of money on propaganda. Good luck.
Oops fuel pumps. That and airbags, and a host of other stuff.
GM automobile’s have gone steadily down the toilet since the early 70’s. The interiors are nothing but plastic & cheap. Does not matter which model, my uncle bought a Cadillac Escalade a year ago, he was very excited as he had worked hard his entire life & this was his retirement present to himself. The excitement wore off pretty quick when all of the plastic started to squeak & rattle incessantly. The ABS system has failed 3 times. Yes, it is still under warranty, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that when you buy a top of the line vehicle for almost $80,000 you might think that you get what you pay for, not the case with GM.