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Trump Fans – This Is Your Intervention

Jonah Goldberg

78 Comments on Trump Fans – This Is Your Intervention

  1. Ooooooh! Now here’s a sentence I’ll remember for a long time:

    [The party base is] angry about the GOP’s patented inability to cross the street without stepping on its own d*ck and then having to apologize for it.

    Delightful! And, I regret to say, true.

  2. I’ll tell you who needs an intervention. It’s all the moderate elephants and rinos that are completely intimidated and scared of Trump. I don’t want Trump to be our nominee but I’m damn happy he is out there right now. He has absolutely changed the discussion on immigration.

  3. He’s wrong in his thinking that Trumps talks alot about making alot of money. Trump is trying to convey that politicians have gotten rich off the sweat of the taxpayers. Trump knows how to make money and can get jobs moving again. And no I dont need an intervention I have a brain and can think for myself.

  4. Sounds like a poor attempt at redemption after being Bitch Slapped in 10 seconds on National TeeVee.
    Trumps a very sussecful business man that played by the rules that the Government established and greased whatever palm needed to get a deal done. I’m shocked. If the guys this good at what he does I want him working for me. While immigration is high on my list so is the economy/trade. As well a the 2nd and Defence spending. There’s nobody else running that is better suited to fix the economy. And nobody owns him.

  5. “…nobody owns him.” Yesss. Buttt…
    I just hope he doesn’t turn out to be a GOP Barak Obama: after election day we find out the chocolate rabbit is freakin’ HOLLOW.

  6. I personally think Johah got it 100% right. Trump would be disastrous.

    But I’m extremely grateful for his having forced the discussion. My preference would be for him to stay in long enough to shake out the limpdongs on both sides and then go back to what he does best.

  7. How different it is to hear someone speak who isn’t a politician reading a speech someone else wrote.

    The dude had a list of topics and just winged it. I love it.

  8. he’s spanking the politicians in the polls because people are tired of the bullshit.

    We put republicans into office in 2014 because we are tired of the bullshit – and at the national level they haven’t done anything.

    Oh, oh, they are gonna go after moochelle 0bama’s lunch program.

    Woooooo oh boy they’re really getting tough now.

    Trump isn’t owned by anyone but Trump. He’s saying what needs to be said not what his donors or his focus groups tell him to say.

    And people are liking it. It’s a breath of fresh air.

  9. Trump needs a handler — badly. The personal stories and endless references to how rich he is and how he beats everyone in the world making deals is just…. ….tacky. We got it. Now: stop with it: It is boring, unattractive and repetitive.

    Frankly, I think Trump might make a decent president, although I suspect that were he to get too close a Jack Ruby type would “disappear” him.

    He’s outside the lines. If it weren’t for his oversized ego, he would be very refreshing, indeed. Let’s hope that, at his age, he is still willing to accept some professional advice from others.

    ….Lady in Red

  10. Handler!!! Fxck that. I’m so tired of smooth talking PC politicians I could shit twinkies. Don’t change a damn thing, just give it to me straight and let me make up my own mind.

  11. What a time we live in. Our current President is an empty suit who doesn’t particularly care for America, and the current Democrat front runners are a leftist pathological liar and a socialist loon. With regard to the host of serious issues facing the country today, our burning issue de jour is “should we ban the Confederate battle flag?” Stay tuned for the future national angst over boxers versus briefs.

    Trump will not be the Republican nominee, much less President, but he is giving voice to opinions and issues that are of importance to many citizens, and which most professional politicians would prefer to avoid. If Trump’s candidacy forces debate and discussion on these issues of immigration and economy, then good for him – he may be more important in this role than actually being President.

  12. He needs polish, Brad. If I had him to a dinner party, I imagine him loudly dominating the entire conversation with endless stories about how wonderful he is, and who he knows. No one else would be permitted an edgewise word.

    I like Trump’s unscripted honesty, but the ego needs some polish to stay hidden, if not, actually, to be re-sized from super enormous to thoughtful and tasteful.

    Churchill had an ego, but he was witty and thoughtful as well. Imagining the two of ’em on a possible dinner invitation list….? Trump would have to be axed as an arrogant bully. And….

    ….worse: an inability to listen to others, accept advice and alternative views is not an asset in a president.

    ….Lady in Red

  13. I only hope Cruz – or whoever is the CONSERVATIVE nominee to run against the Dems – has the lungs and balls to “fight the (politically-incorrect) fight” as hard and direct as Trump does.

  14. I watched his speech in Phoenix and it was unlike any other speech I’ve ever seen. Yeah he’s rough and yeah he talks about his wealth-so? I happen to like brash, hell that was what they said about Americans until recently, and I think when you’ve got the goods, it’s OK to talk about it. It’s not bragging when you’ve accomplished what he has accomplished. You want a humble pie eating leader? I don’t but unlike Obama talking shit, Trump can back it up.

    I don’t think he needs handlers or more focus groups telling him what words he should be using. The guy gave a 50 minute speech, off the cuff, told stories and it was just enjoyable to hear the confidence.

    He’s addressing two fundamental problems we have and he’s not pulling any punches. He also extolls the greatness of this country in a way that even my fav, Cruz, doesn’t. If you don’t think he can turn around our immigration nightmare and our joblessness, then you’re not paying attention.

    If Ted does fade, I’d have no problem working my can off for him.

    Like they say, you know you’re over the target when you’re drawing fire and he’s got the bombsight locked. Oh man, the Sundays will be a wall to wall Trump slam.

  15. Yeah Jonah, you’re right. Maybe we need a proven fighter like El Jeb. Before Cruz became a hack for ObamaTrade, he was the only guy willing to bloody the right noses.

    Trump is smarter than them all put together. He knows what buttons to push while the wussypants Republicans hire morons like Karl Rove to tell them to be the nice guys! I am so done with the Republican Party and the fools that run it.

    awd

  16. Trump is speaking in Hot Springs, Arkansas on July 17. He was set up to speak at the Reagan-Rockefeller Dinner but they sold so many tickets they had to move it to the Hot Springs Convention Center.

    Tickets are 150.oo. Wish I had $150.oo to spare…
    I’d buy some more ammo and emergency storage food.

  17. I’m not 100% fan of Trump. Especially since he pulled that shit on Pamela Geller. But I hope he at least makes it to the debates with Hillary. FINALLY! We’d get to have some fun!

    Btw, will Hills make it to the first debate? For some reason, I can’t see her accepting any. Because any R with a lick of sense would keep bringing up benghazi, emails, her foundation… She’d soak her pantsuit.

  18. I am not a Trump fan at all. To me he is Perot.2 and is toxic. A Kansas weathervane in a tornado holds it’s position longer than Trump can, and like that weathervane, it just points towards the strongest wind blowing in his direction. As soon as the wind shifts, it points elsewhere with no recollection of where it was pointing 30 seconds ago or why.

    He WILL damage all on the right. Once he suckers enough people into his web, he’ll get on his billion dollar yacht and sail off into the sunset leaving us to be sucked on by the hungry spiders he set free.

    He doesn’t want to be president, he is just feeding his extra large ego. Think about it, why would he take that kinda pay cut?

    Fuck “The Donald” and the gold plated unicorn he rode in on. And it matters none that he bought his own unicorn…crony capitalism is not capitalism, it is communism. The sooner he leaves the better for conservatism!

  19. Jonah Goldberg is what sadly passes as a conservative inside the beltway. He’s just another pompous, progressive, self-important gasbag that thinks he is oh so much more intellectual and sophisticated than us simpletons in flyover country that he has to explain to us what is best for us.

    I’ve read his columns for years and have noticed that he has more and more morphed into the typical elitist, big-government establishment type ……. just like the jerks we elect and send to DC who campaigned as “tea party” types. He’s not a true conservative – he’s just deluded himself into believing that he is.

  20. I love National Review.. I’ve been with them since 1968, that’s before many of you were born. I saw William F. Buckley once at a college in New Jersey where he gave a speech. It was like seeing Ronald Reagan or the Pope. No , not that one, the one from Poland
    I met and shook hands with Jim Buckley NY Senator from New York
    What a friendly guy as opposed to meeting Gov. Mario Cuomo in front of the NBC building at 7 am where he just simply ignored us two or three peons on the street on our way to work And had his suited goons stop us from approaching him. Our Governor!

    So what am I talking about? I love reading Jonah Goldberg and National Review. I don’t mind giving Jack Fowler an extra few bucks by renewing my subscription ahead of time. I must be good now until 2030, long after I’m dead

    But a couple of things pissed me off over the years:
    One was the fact that Chris Buckley, son of Bill, backed Barack Obama for President. Chris has since moved off to greener pastures with P.J.O’ Rourke and the lot. They are smarter than us
    run of the mill assholes who just work for a living and can’t write for a living.

    Don’t get me wrong Chris, P.J., I will always read your stuff.

    But Chris You’re an asshole.

    Then comes from National Review, Rich Lowry, another guy I like, who tells us , paraphrasing, I’d never have thought I’d agree with Al Sharpton, but I do. On the Ferguson shooting. Complete asshole Louwry is.

    Now there dicks are attacking Donald Trump.

    Jonah Goldberg is on a tear. But let me tell you something you young superstars, Donald Trump is the only man who has “told it like it is.” Most Americans, not you writing, intellectual, academic
    lot are not into your shit. Not no more. S fuck off Jonah and you’re ilk.

  21. I seem to remember just a few short years ago many were excited with “The Donald” for going after Obama over his questionable birth certificate. Oh, it was entertaining, but did it really have any effect on preventing Teh One from being re-elected? Or did he do damage to those who wanted Obama out by distracting from Obama’s failure as president?

    How about Trump on Immigration?

    in 2011 he was all for sealing the border, but then evaluate the illegals already here to determine if they should get amnesty.

    Here’s the clip from O’Reilly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B2LDQoC46M

    What has Trump said differently about how he wants to handle the illegals already here? Has he said anything yet?

    Oh, he has all kinds of big ideas about punishing Mexico for letting illegals come across the border, but what is he going to do about the illegals here already?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3157729/Trump-takes-incendiary-immigration-views-GOP-faithful-Tycoon-tells-thousands-U-S-outsmarted-cunning-Mexico.html

    He’s a populist blow hard who gets a kick out of winding people up with simple declarations, but he’s not a serious candidate who has no place anywhere near the WH other than as a visitor.

    Here’s Trump statement on being Pro-life

    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/01/26/donald-trump-on-abortion-im-pro-life/

    Does that reasoning for why he shifted his belief on abortion give you confidence that deep down he has had a deep heart felt conversion?

    Does he think of abortion as murder as the ending of life?

    It goes on and on like that with this guy. Be entertained, let him fill the summer news cycle making professional politicians uncomfortable, but seriously consider if his deeds in office would actually match his words.

  22. Trump knows he is not going to be president. He is rich enough he can say what everyone else should be Saying.
    I liked the old [menderman] better than the new guy.

  23. Strange enough, I agree with all of you. lol.
    He’s not going to make it. BUT, I’m all for letting him slap the libs around. Has he flip flopped? Hell yes. But for right now, let him bring up the dirty business. Let him keep flicking libtard noses. Let him keep jabbing the other RINOs in their sides.
    He is making libs and prog rinos uncomfy by bringing up utter failures to the foreground and I’ll all for that shit. It makes the prog stations HAVE to bring up illegals and hillary bullshit. They can’t avoid it like they did in ’12.

    Like I said, he won’t be around too long, so fuck it, let him wave that dookie on the stick around. Lol.
    The progs are gonna call us all names anyway, whether Trump is there or not.

  24. Hey Sean Padraig my friend. Donald Trump put more Carpenters, Electricians, Plumbers, Steamfitters, Plasterers, Brick layers, Laborers, Refuse collection . Engineers, architects, design artists, than the entire Obama administration ever did. Or the entire RINO party ever gave a fuck about.

    They are all into social science and black culture shit.

  25. “He’s not going to make it.” Don’t bet on that. He will carry the Blue Collar, or now unemployed Blue Collar, no mater the skin tone. Under Obamanomics manufacturing is now less than 8% of the GDP. When it’s said and done America is after JOBS.

  26. The sooner he leaves the better for conservatism!

    I don’t really give a sh!t whether or not he’s better for conservatism. The issue is whether or not he’s a better candidate for president than the untrustworthy, unprincipled, unappealing, uptight, over-controlled, underwhelming alternatives put forth by any party.

    BTW, crony capitalism is not communism. It is fascism. But since both are forms of coercive collectivism, I reject both with prejudice.

  27. @merc, I’m with you. I was a National Review subscriber for years, and I’ve actually met Jonah. He’s not pompous at all, in fact he was quite gracious to me. But I lost interest in NR when they fired Derb for simply stating the obvious. Trump will never be the nominee, but as someone else said, he has changed the conversation on immigration, or at least gotten one started. I’ll take that for now.

  28. Trump could do better than I expect he will, but he has got to tone it down to be successful

    As Maggie Thatcher put it, “Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren’t.”

    ….Lady in Red

  29. This has been beat to death, but I’d like to touch on something that hasn’t really been talked about. There’s no candidate that will be able to stay on the same page as Trump in the debates. He uses facts and logical data to make important decisions. I don’t care if you were the debate champ of the world since birth, if you don’t have the ammo you will suck. I’m dying to see Trumps reaction the first time one of these dumb asses brings up how the met Burt and Gertrude Whatstheirname in Watertown Wisconsin with a tear in the corner of their left eye. Gawd that pisses me off. Vote for me and I’ll set you free. Trump will kill them in the debates and get elected.

  30. To the contrary, he is much too broad-brush and imprecise in his language, now. If he is going to cut a wide swath, it damn well better be a good one, not sloppy.

    Like, “I’m like, ah, really smart and so was my uncle….” That doesn’t play well on the front page of the NY Times.
    ….Lady in Red

  31. Lady In Red. Who would you prefer to be the nominee?

    You do know The Donald tweeted a photo of 15,000 people tonight at hIs rally, right?

    Yeah. That won’t settle well with The New York Times…

  32. LIR, I’m going to say this as nice as I can. He’s one of the top ten most successful people in the history of history. You really REALLY don’t understand the man. Now go back to knitting that cat sweater.

  33. I don’t think he’ll let it get that far. He’s tight with Killary, has complimented her profusely and given lots of money to her and Slick’s “foundation.”

  34. Agreed and thank you! Trump is a narcissistic blow hard. Little guy who made it all by himself? No, guy who inherited money from rich daddy and got his start that way. Take a good long look at his true financial record and not the one the touts. Take a good long look at where his campaign contributions have gone the last 4 election cycles.
    He’s a big mouth who wants attention.

  35. Well, Brad, m’ boy, *I* would say you are incorrect. To the contrary, *I* would say that reading comprehension is not your long suit.

    Let me suggest — gently, as *nicely* as I can: go back, read my comments, *slowly* and, finally, just *think* about them. No need to get excited. Just think.
    …..Lady in Red

  36. Perot 3.0, actually, with only slightly more polish & money. I used to cringe every time Ross said he didn’t know diddly about squat, but would “check under the hood” when he got to Dee Cee. People didn’t listen to me then and probably won’t now.

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