Donald Trump went after Ted Cruz in an interview today, calling him “a total liar” for saying that Mr. Trump supports universal health care similar to ObamaCare.
“Look, Ted Cruz is a total liar,” Mr. Trump responded. “I am so against ObamaCare.”
Trump was then asked, “You say that Ted Cruz is a liar, but you have said that you want everyone to be covered on health care and the government’s going to pay for it. How is that not ObamaCare?”
“Well, that’s true,” Mr. Trump answered. “I want people taken care of. I have a heart. I want people taken care of.”
He continued, “That doesn’t mean single payer. That means we have to help people.”
Mr. Trump then speculated that Ted Cruz “has no heart” because he doesn’t support universal health care.
Yesterday, Mr. Cruz stated that, if he were President, he would repeal the Affordable Care Act and “allow health insurance to be purchased across state lines and expanding health savings accounts.”
Earlier this week, Mr. Cruz promised, “If I’m elected president, we will repeal every word of Obamacare.”
The clash between Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz comes just one day before the Iowa caucuses, where the two men have been jockeying for first place. Mr. Trump has taken a small lead in Iowa in the last few weeks, with him and Mr. Cruz within the margin of error of each other.
So hes in favor of something he doesn’t support.
Got it, I think, maybe, kinda sorta, ummm ,no.
Last minute desperation and misrepresentation of Trump’s current stand.
“Have to help people” = “Single payer”?!?!?!?
THAT sort of “logic” [sic] belongs at “Got News”….
If President Cruz had D.J. Trump on a leash as head of the RNC, this world would be in a whole lot better shape!
Mr. Trump stated that the government would pay for health care.
Here is the definition of single payer health care: “Single-payer healthcare is a system in which the government, rather than private insurers, pays for all healthcare costs.”
Without stopping the 3rd world illegal alien the Republic will die. That is the only issue. Once that gets squared away, we can start to deal with the rest.
Hmm, I seem to remember a fellow a couple of election seasons back : populist, “soaring rhetoric”, promised a bunch of free crap…he was absolutely cream of nothing. Wonder what happened with that guy? /s
Trump supporters mostly Moderate and Mainstream republicans.
http://therightscoop.com/trump-supporters-mostly-moderate-and-mainstream-republicans-pollsters/
Sorry Mr. Pinko, but the more that the Trumpster is having to defend his flank, the more the NY liberal in him gets unfettered and unfiltered–being a New Yorker, he sounds like a lot of my elected officials.
I said I could vote for him if Cruz didn’t get it, but with each passing day and each pronouncement from him, he’s screwing the pooch and any chance I’d vote for him.
Keep talking, Donnie–
Sounds like every Conservative in Congress now.
If there’s a Republican Congress and Senate we’ll never get Single Payer. Right?
Trump is the best Democrat running.
If he wins a lot of people are going to be shocked that being elected did not turn him into a Republican, much less a Conservative.
Aside from what he “says” he will do with the borders he is well to the left of Jeb Bush. That is why he talks about working with Democrats and never mentions working with Republicans.
Like Obama, Trump is being honest about how he will act. The problem is that very few are listening.
So he is supposed to say “I am going to repeal Obamacare and leave poor people on their own for healthcare” or something similar? Not a real good way to persuade voters. I would like to see a little more detail from all the R candidates but George Clintonopoulos is not going to let that happen.
National Review desperation article. They misrepresent Trump any chance they get.
If Trump builds a wall, deports illegals we’re on the road to recovery. Then you can fight Washington to fix health care the right way.
You want to take your chances with Cruz, roll the dice and lose everything, go right ahead. Then you’ll definitely have no borders with single payer. See how that works out for ya.
Trumpbart!
http://www.trumpbart.com/2015/11/23/obamacare-is-a-total-disaster-thats-why-we-support-a-candidate-in-favor-of-universal-healthcare/
The government already pays for health care. And the Republicans FUNDED it!
I was all in from the start on Trump entering the race and shaking things up, but some of his shit is really beginning to stink.
Cruz has been the only real conservative all along. Trump has accused him of being nasty because he had the balls to stand up to the RINOS in the Senate and has done what he promised he would do if elected? Hate to say it, but maybe Trump is related somewhat to Filthy McNasty.
I watched him on the news this morning. Trump said people with no money need to be taken care of, and should get free health care. He indicated that he would work it out with hospitals. I’m not sure what that means, but that is what he said.
He also said he would appoint SCOTUS judges that would overturn gay marriage, just like Bernie is going to order his new judges to overturn Citizens United.
This is going to be a long fracking year….sigh…..
Implosion imminent.
Yada yada yada.
Trump supporters are uneducated.
Knuckledraggers.
Fascists.
and so on and so forth
*yawn*
But feel free to keep up the creative – if inaccurate and insulting – adjectives.
Doesn’t matter. The Trump supporters dont care about Trump’s record. They want a loud mouth to “make America great again”…which may include single payer health care and gun control
Trump is a Democrat!
A fascist!
A part of the GOP Establishment!
and so on and so forth.
*yawn*
“Real conservative”…
as long as a “real conservative”
SELLS OUT THE USA to GLOBAL POWERS.
My “heartburn” with Cruz is his “Trans Pacific Trade Deal” (TPP) position.
I see TPP as the other side of the “Immigration-Issue coin.”
In a similar (and related) manner that illegal (and Cruz’s H1-B legal white collar alien invasion) immigration destroys America’s social fabric and economic strength, the TPP severely weakens (a slippery slope to destroying) America’s sovereignty, as it subordinates/subsumes America to GLOBAL powers, be they economic or legal (THINK: UN, World Court).
Hence, I see Cruz as supporting this globalism to the detriment of America, and will vote for Donald J Trump.
That’s as true as “the Cruz supporters don’t care about Cruz’s record. They want a REAL CONSERVATIVE”…which may include destroying America’s sovereignty (see my post above to sax)
Trump said people with no money need to be taken care of, and “should get free health care”.
Trump said those exact words?
Gun control? Where are you getting that from?
Anyone who hasn’t been listening to Trump’s stump and is willing to pile on based on a couple of sound bites, was never going to change their mind about Cruz anyway. But just a word of advice: Those of us who get what The Donald is about, you’ll never move us. Only he will make us change our minds. And he hasn’t so far.
The bottom line is unless we are decisive about our borders, illegal immigration, deporting illegals, refusing Syrian refugees, repatriating American companies and corporate money from off shore, eliminating the fraud, waste and abuse of tax dollars in gov’t, lowering the corporate tax rate in order to attract investors to the U.S., renegotiate NAFTA trade deals, etc. etc. etc. (all things that save us money), revising the health care INSURANCE apparatus doesn’t mean squat. And besides, Trump’s goal is not that Big Government pay for everyone’s healthcare. He wants the free market to compete in a normal, capitalist manner to deliver both affordable insurance and affordable care delivery. If you’ve been listening to both Trump’s and Cruz’s speeches very carefully, you will know that Cruz has been ‘drafting’ Trump on this issue. While Cruz talks about repealing obamacare “day one”, Trump has gone further to talk about the role of the free market, allowing insurance companies to compete across the states (rather than be limited to where they can offer insurance), changing the way our veterans receive care (through the private market instead of solely through the V.A.). He knows the problems with universal healthcare, starting with fact that it’s not universal and it’s not affordable.
Trump has everyone who wants to maintain the status quo completely spooked, agitated, irritated, and afraid the gravy train will disappear, and if he wins it will. There are a lot of people riding that train who will fight tooth and toenail to see him defeated.
“If you don’t support universal healthcare you’re heartless”.
Well Mr. Trump, if you’re going to “Make America great again”, this would mean more jobs, boosted economy, and more taxpayers to pay for THEIR OWN DAMN HEALTHCARE.
It’d mean a smaller government andFREE MARKETS.
#shitontrump
Jon is an anti-Trump (maybe even Sandersista) who is peddling propaganda. He never “got” gun control from Trump.
I think in the future we’ll be looking back at these arguments as re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
We already have no borders and are well on the way to the point of no return on single payer–so what are my options?
I don’t believe Trump will ever build a wall and I don’t believe for a minute that he’s so against amnesty–too much of his blue collar force in the hospitality industry need to stay on the jobs they already have.
I do believe that Cruz will enforce the laws already on the books and considering the popularity of obongocare, I’d be surprised if Congress didn’t pass some sort of insurance reform to put competition back into the equation; they hate him just like they hated Reagan but the Gipper managed to do pretty well.
No one is perfect, but being a New Yorker, I can tell that Trump is just that–and I’m not so sure I want to elect a NY liberal after having a Chicago liberal screw things up to the point they are now.
‘Zactly! That’s precisely what he is saying — and he’s not going to have 2,700 pages (30K with regulations) to lay it all out.
That’s the level of sophisitication and maturity (/s) Cruz supporters can muster in these last few failing hours.
No, he said people with no money should get health care, He (as president) will work it out. You figure out what that means.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=trump+george+stephanopoulos&qft=+filterui%3avideoage-lt1440&view=detail&mid=1D935BF1A043E3286AF41D935BF1A043E3286AF4&FORM=VRDGAR
(4:40 mark for that part of the interview.)
Trump stated this poorly. He has previously stated, in that 60 Minutes interview that everyone is focusing in on, that his plan will be primarily private insurance. The “universal healthcare” he’s proposing is coverage for the uninsured. I am not sure if I will agree with it, but it’s not “government paying for everything.” The private insurance plans would still be in effect, with increased competition.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2015/09/27/trumps-health-plan-revealed-on-60-minutes-sounds-like-obamacare/#4b27a3e42421
“For the most part, it’s going to be a private plan,” Trump told 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley. “People are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors. They can have plans. They can have everything.”
Well, at least this is a break from “He’s a clown and a buffoon.”
You are back? How did it go with checking your sources in Iowa about Ted’s Orwellian mailer? Never heard back from you on that.
Before the government got involved, everyone had access to free healthcare – it was called “charity hospitals” run by religious groups and donations by philanthropists. They provided excellent care. St Judes still does.
Let me apologize to the REASONABLE, INTELLIGENT iOTWr Cruz supporters: I meant *some* (like GJ above).
If it helps blow off steam – and Lord know, I need it myself on my side as well, HERE’S A GAME I thought of:
come up with the most scurrilous scandals about the top candidates (the others are too boring).
TRUMP: he wears a wig made out of hairs from handicapped Asian child-laborers…and only buys them wholesale.
CRUZ: he is secretly a bigamist! In admitting his secret marriage to Ann Barnhardt, he said, “she had me at bacon bookmark.”
Hey, if all those other glorious and caring countries around the world have Universal Health Care and it’s free why don’t they just extend it to us?
If You Can’t Dazzle Them With Your Brilliance Baffle Them With Your Bullshit!-Donald J Trump and Friends.
Right, if health care costs are now bankrupting the country why don’t we just make it free for everybody and then cut everyone’s taxes based on the enormous sums of money we will save!
@CZAR And that’s exactly what this has evolved into. There’s no logical discussion taking place here. You’ve got a guy that’s part of the Cruz campaign spewing crap like a broken rain bird sprinkler using several different names. Another guy is disgusted to learn Glen Beck has endorsed Trump (way to stay informed) and generally people typing crap with no basis. Like I told you a week ago, you and AA are wasting your time. There’s no debate here because people don’t stick to facts and or legitimate sources. I’m out.
Pleased to meet you Mr. Bullshitter the III!
TO Bad Brad
DON’T check out…HAVE FUN with it!
That’s all I’m trying to say.
LET “trolls” (e.g. “truth” or “GJLex10”) be trolls.
They appear out of nowhere and will soon disappear to the same nowhere.
WE on the other hand can still laugh at it and keep (I hope) of perspective on it. That’s my suggestion.
Charity hospital are few and far between though. I am all for the elderly, the developmentally disabled, and disabled veterans having no-cost health care, and deeply discounted prescriptions. The main problem with this though, is, some elderly do get themselves in a spiral because they refuse to accept that not everything has a cure. It’s in part the fault of come-ons we get from the medical community.
My father is this way. He doesn’t believe for one minute that the docs don’t have a magic fix for him. He’s 84 and treated his body badly his whole life. Manys the time I have taken him to 6 or 7 medical appointments in one month to have repeats of tests, a consult with yet another specialist, on and on. Nothing is ever done – because nothing else CAN be done. But he won’t believe it. He has slowed down on the doc visits a bit, but it’s still at least twice a month. That is so costly – and in many ways that have nothing to do with money. What to do?
Anyway, after reading Trumps book on what he envisions for healthcare, it ain’t half bad. Making insurance companies compete, shopping across state lines, etc. Solid ideas.
If you had a brain, his “rhetoric” never soared. And there is a big difference between “fundamentally changing America” by a muslim raised by commies,koranimals and tranny nannies in indonesia and making America GREAT again.
The Trump supporters here are not doing him any favors by piling on anyone who says something about Trump that they don’t like, especially when it is true.
Generally the name calling is proof that one does not have a rational response and feels threatened.
That kind of stuff has driven a lot of people away from the Treehouse, and I would hate to see that happen here.
if you guys have to be this defensive when he is winning, what are you going to do when he starts slipping? Eat your own?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8G-vMqebrc
when you go on with George Stephanopoulos to get your message across… just saying it still works with low info voters, not so well with conservatives
“The Trump supporters here are not doing him any favors by piling on anyone who says something about Trump that they don’t like, especially when it is true.”
LOL – you do realize what you just said? Trump supporters are suppose to just shut up whether a falsehood is stated about their candidate or not.
We are caucusing here. Healthy debate. We’ve been the more fair web site on the interwebs.The iotwreport staff are divided in their choice and support. Have fun! 😉
With all due respect, there is a difference between healthy debate and piling on.
Repetitive and ad hominem retorts are not healthy debate.
I know your position on this issue, you have been very clear.
I truly believe that you know I was not suggesting that Trump supporters involved in reasoned dialog “shut up”. You merely were faced with limited rebuttal to activity that you would denounce were it not working in your favor.
If you have read my posts you know that I don’t believe Cruz can legally be president. I also believe that his election would remove all possibility of undoing Obama’s evil through a Constitutional challenge.
On the other hand, I think it incumbent upon Trump supporters to push him hard in a rightward direction rather than just accept him warts and all.