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Will Big Government Put Electronic Governors On Our Cars?

Saturday, 30 March 2019, 21:00 BFH Uncategorized 69

The EU is poised to control the speed of every *new car on the road, via its onboard GPS and electronics. Will this be imported into America? (Keep your old cars!)

American Spectator-

The European Union has decreed — fatwa’d— that beginning with the 2022 model year, all new cars shall be electronically gelded, forced by software to hew to every speed limit, all the time.

The same software — and hardware — that probably two-thirds of all new cars sold here already have — merely awaiting activation.

Helpful, convenient GPS mapping — so much easier than having to read and handle a paper map, as people used to.

Helpful, convenient “driver assists” — such as the little cameras that enable your car to automatically brake itself when those electronic eyes see another car up ahead, moving more slowly than your car. These cameras also see — and know, via the GPS mapping data, updated regularly — what the speed limit is on every road you drive.

And the car knows exactly how fast you are driving, in real time — all the time.

See the helpful little icon on the touchscreen? The one that looks just like a speed limit sign? Watch it change from 45 to 35, as the speed limit on the road you’re driving on changes. Now watch as it turns angry red, to warn you that you are driving faster — even if only by 1 MPH — than the posted speed limit.

For now, it is just a warning.

In Europe, it’s soon to be the cue for the car to slow itself down, whether you want to or not.

“Intelligent Speed Assist” will cut throttle — over which you have no real control, since the throttle is controlled by the car’s computer and not by your right foot, no matter how furiously you mash the accelerator pedal. Which is really just a throttle input sensor — “drive by wire” — which transmits data about how far down you have pushed the pedal, sends the data to the ECU — the computer that is in control of the engine — which then decides how much to rev the engine.

It can decide to not rev it at all.

And beginning in 2022, it will do just that.

“Speeding” will be countermanded at a stroke — for your saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafety, of course.

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69 Comments on Will Big Government Put Electronic Governors On Our Cars?

  1. Hmmm…
    Gubmin’t controlling the speed of your car.
    Gubmin’t mandated software is the WORST!
    Imagine a glitch in the code or the electronic sensors that supply info to the microprocessor and suddenly the car speeds up instead of slowing down…
    Remember the Audi 5000 in the 80’s? The cruise control would suddenly go full throttle!
    Naaaahh! That won’t happen. We are better at computer controls now….
    Really? Boeing 737 Max….

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  2. We are in that awkward space between us driving the cars and the cars driving us.
    Like the Digital Audio Tape phase prior to CD’s
    Like vinyl, there is nothing like cruising with the top down on a desert road after sunset, and putting the foot down for a bit.
    Sadly one of the freedoms we must give up on our lurch toward science fiction days, as we listen to Digital downloads that scrub the frequencies they think we don’t hear.

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  3. How soon will the govt. mandate that all older cars without the new safety equipment be banned? Only outlaws will then drive older cars, I guess that makes me an outlaw. And I hate the new key fobs on the newer cars, I’ve driven a couple of them and I just am not used to having no physical key in the ignition. Call me old school and leave our cars alone, I’ve been driving for 50 years and I don’t need or want your help with my driving. They’d shit kittens if we still had vehicles with little or no safety equipment like we did when I first learned to drive 50 years ago. Don’t get me wrong I like the newer cars but not all the govt. mandated equipment that takes away my freedom to drive like I want to or tell the govt. everything I do while I’m driving. Can you imagine HAL being your co pilot? “Sorry Geoff, you can’t do that because I’m here to protect you from yourself and if you don’t do what I say I’ll snitch on you and report you to the authorities, for your own good and the states goodwill.”

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  4. Back in the day…

    Closest hospital was about 27 miles away and sent mother-in-law with friend wife riding along to the emergency room. Told them I’d see them there and took the back roads. Waited for them for over ten minutes before they arrived. Think the computer controlled vehicle would have let me make it there before them?

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  6. My pipe dream was to retool my ’67
    Plymouth Valiant w/226 c.i. slant 6
    and make them again.A 15 year old kid
    can fix it.Not 1 single transistor or chip
    in the entire car.EMP won’t frickin’ touch it !!!

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  8. My friend has the cell phone tracker that reports to his insurance the speed and acceleration deceleration directly to the database.When i take him for a drive in my hot rod pickup truck he has to contact the insurance company to tell them he is a passenger or his rates go up. I asked him is it worth it?

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  9. My brother and his fellow mechanic are old school mechanics who know how to work on older cars with carburetors etc. A lot of the other shops farm their older vehicles out to them since most of the new mechanics don’t have a clue about older cars. They’re also up to date on all the latest technology but prefer to work on the older cars. A couple of years ago they had a 1954 Corvette in the shop, that was quite a beautiful car. My daughter loved it until I told her it was worth over $100,000 dollars.

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  10. “Big Government” will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to control us if we don’t actively prevent them from doing so. It is the NATURE of people who seek office to want POWER. The POWER to control others. Thus ANYTHING that allows them to wield control over our lives is something they want and actively seek. The mere ACT of running for office is an AUTOMATIC DISQUALIFER for virtually EVERY candidate. They aren’t running to serve others….they are running to serve themselves and their lust for power.

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  12. Radioation man We had a slant six on a water pump it would run for days at a time only shut off for refueling exhaust cherry red. After we retired it i pulled the head thinking the valves would be pooched but they were fine. Bullet proof old work horse.

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  14. Tim my cousin is an o.p.p. he likes to roll into my driveway to freak me out. He worked homicide and would park the homicide van in my driveway and freak out my neighbours.

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  15. 66 Ford F100 390 hardened pistons comp cam edlebrock manifold and carb, MSD electronics, Hooker headers flowmaster 40s with the C6 trans and a 3.5 posi rear end.

    Best damn submarine I’ve ever owned.

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  16. Again back in the day…

    In high school and after we rated the curves on the roads by speed. That one’s a 55, that one’s a 75, etc. Number was the speed you had exiting the curve and usually in a four wheel drift. No problem as long as you were accelerating and stayed under power. Less traffic and run at night when you could see distant headlights of oncoming traffic to know if you could use both lanes while doing it.

    Not all of us lived to see twenty five years of age. Looking underneath the vehicle while changing the oil one day I noticed the cord showing through on the inside of one of the tires. Previous night over 120 MPH on exiting one of the curves. Always a road race to where we were going to eat after playing a job. Not me on stage, I worked the crowd at the jobs for possible entertainment afterwards.

    Truly amazing that I’m still sucking air and in my seventies.
    Shouldn’t have started to comment again…

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  18. C’mon Mouse, let’s drag, Daddy-O. You see my set up. It’s the same as a T-Bird, just pimped out and on a U-boat frame. I’m rollin’ on Firestones and baby moons.

    Dig up something fun and lets see who can get the coolest reckless endangerment ticket.

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  19. Time for Cash For Clunkers II to rid the roads of all non-GPS equipped cars.

    Oh, wait. Electric cars will be the only type permitted on the roads.

    Oh wait. Local police departments will be snookered out of “speed traps” and heavy fines to fill PD coffers.

    Oh wait. We’re all going to die in 12 years, so buy your Corvette TODAY and burn rubber with impunity!

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  20. I also wonder sometimes why I’m still here with all the crazy things I did while driving when I was younger. My guardian angel must’ve been watching out for me, some of the things I never told my dad or my best friend his mom when we took her 1965/66 Pontiac Bonneville airborne once and did a Dukes of Hazzard fly off over a railroad bridge, we were just damn lucky is all I can say. And 17 and stupid.

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  21. Mr burr.1983 f150 shortbox step side standard cab 351w cleavland heads 400 crank clearance cut ballanced dodge rods c6 8.5 rear end soon to be 9 inch with discs. The tires get slippery when you lean on the right pedal.

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  23. Fun fact. Comerica park, where the Detroit Tigers play has a display on a elevated platform where G.M. always displays a couple of their current year vehicles. This year for display they put up a Chevy Traverse, built in Lansing Mi. And a Chevy Blazer built in Mexico. Due to public outcry the Blazer has been removed and replaced with a Chevy truck built in Indiana. Winning!

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  24. @Anymouse: “In high school and after we rated the curves on the roads by speed….”

    in the good old days, roads used to be laid out with a spiral going into the curve, ond also coming out. You could actually accelerate into and out of the curve, as the degree of curvature increased or decreased. Learned how to do that while studying surveying for railroads, as they need spirals still. I’ve always wondered about that train crash in Washington state, and if they had used spirals. Most kids today can’t handle the computations, and I don’t know if I’d trust a computer. I think Pennsylvania was one of the last states to use spirals on highways, and mostly on/off ramps.
    Was in a 1967 Shelby GT500 w/427 when we got a ticket for 149 once. Radar. That car rocked, We used to start races with other cars at 100. Never lost.

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  27. Aaron Burr

    Had one friend with a 66 Malibu street legal that was capable of middle 10’s in the quarter.

    Partner and I had a sleeper 55 Chevy with 283 punched out to 301 and other goodies and three duece setup. Pain in the ass keeping those Rochesters synced up and running right. Drive it around the block and reset em. Really looked ratty as hell but embarrassed a few of the rich kids who had what daddy bought them.

    Two days after we sold the engine the dummy dumped the clutch at too high RPM and blew it up. We warned him that it wouldn’t hold up to that type of show boating Almost cried…

    Gotta go, pretending to be working and need to do rounds…

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  28. When the NORKS set off the nuke in their satellite, the EMP will bring everything built after the early 70s to a screeching stop. That’s when I roll my 70 Nova SS out of the garage.

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  29. Where is the money connection? The government only worries about how to squeeze dollars out of us. Somewheres behind this idea lurks a built in scam where us worker peasants lose money. Perhaps the technology cost of new improved electronic lame car or the infrastructure price tag of setup costs and yearly mandatory software upgrades. Lets not forget the demise of the high-speed train with over runs and the unforeseen actual price to build.

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  33. I’ll stick with my ’73 Beetle, ’67 Ford, gen II Dodge pickup, and ’82 diesel MB 300D.

    I work on all of it — and all of it should outlast me.

    I once did 196 indicated on a Ducati 996 — the EU, the EPA, and all the rest of those maggots can kiss my ass.

    I’m not averse to ALDL, and OBDII — I find the systems fascinating and the engineering principles some brilliant dipshit used to overcome (sometimes an abject failure) some problem he or she had in replicating the functions of a carburettor. I’ll work on any of it. But I drive the shit with carbs, mechanical injection, and in the case of my genII Dodge a very simple system not unlike ALDL.

    Some of this even goes back to me being a telephone man. Analog had a tendency to stay broken, and thusly easier to fix. There was little worse than many of the digital troubles that seemed to come and go on a whim.

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  36. Anonymous. I had a 460 with a Hilbourne 8 stack mechanical fuel injection.Spent much time changing pills could never get it right.Air pressure and humidity air temp all got together to mess with me.

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  38. I don’t know that one, Huron, but the injection used in the airhead VWs was awful, tappet based BS.

    The diesel is where Bosch injection is excellent. We don’t care about barometric, humidity, or air temp. Those old petrol injection systems indeed sucked because we really needed scores of sensors to map the real world. We didn’t know enough.

    That’s why ALDL was as sound as a pound. A knock sensor, a TPS, a coolant temp sensor, a baro/ambient sensor, and an EGR that used to give all of us fits!

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  42. I gave up after swapping out the MAP, TPS, Iac and then the 02 sensors.

    Now I suck because I’m paying some guy to rebuild or clean out or replace the throttle body.

    Give me a Holley or Edlebrock with a manual choke anyday.

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  43. I didn’t mention O2 sensors… but back in those days we didn’t have pre-heated O2 sensors. We had 2 wire sensors that pretty much never died. Your knock sensor could die, your TPS needed changed every 30 years, the EGR was a righteous pain in the ass, but the 2 wire O2 chugged for 400,000 miles and beyond.

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  48. I worked on a truck that the IAC was going bonkers… but it was the timing sensor in the distributor that caused it. The distributor wasn’t down tight and moved fractions of degrees until the wires stopped it from moving.

    And IACs just get funky.

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  49. This things a Jeep grand cherokee. I ain’t know nothin but birthin’ no babies when it comes to those. All I wanted to do was replace the MAP but the engine light kept comin on and the code went from MAP to TPS to IAC to 02 and I had to decide whether I was gonna’ shoot this Jeep or pay some guy to figure it out for me.

    I’m on medication so I took it to the shop.

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  57. son of a….. half of me is mad for not figuring this out…. the stupid EPA mandated gay gas.

    The other half of me doesn’t give a fudge because it’s a jeep and I ain’t never gonna learn their crap.

    Next build is gonna be a flathead V-8. Just hand me my caveman club and leave me alone.

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  58. That’s supposed to be part of it. Rings stick, which is not usually much of a problem… and then the dreaded pin failure.

    They coke up.

    The problem is the difference between petrol and diesel. Petrol engines will usually knock like a mofo with a plugged EGR. Then the timing controller retards the spark for further silly problems.

    The diesel doesn’t have that timing issue. You can’t retard the angles. But you CAN prevent the noxious exhaust gases, laden with abrasive bullshit, from fouling the rings and top pins.

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  59. Mr burr. Built many flat heads.Iknow of two lincoln v12 flats from a boat. The widow of the engines owner does not know anything about them and i don’t want to hound her but a v12 track t would be fun.

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  60. Huron,……. you get it.

    I cant acquire no v12, but I can get a 37 Ford flathead 5 window coupe for about 5 large.

    I’m a sneaky bastard so I’d probably stick in one of those LS twin turbo engine deals for a while just to smoke everything on 4 wheels within a 2000 mile radius.

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  63. As I was driving yesterday I looked over at the car passing me. He had a built in GPS. I thought, NO WAY! I love my ’08 Jeep Grand Cherokee without a GPS. As it stands now I can leave my phone at home or take out the sim card and no one knows where I am.
    If I ever get a newer vehicle I am getting one without one of those things.
    Governors on our vehicles?
    Nope.
    Not gonna have one. I think maybe too many of our politicians are corrupt and don’t want anyone to know where they are or how fast they are driving so this may be a while coming here.

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  66. Funny, but I can’t find any reference to automobiles in my copy of the Constitution!
    What isn’t SPECIFICALLY allowed the gov’t is FORBIDDEN!
    (see: American Civil War or War Between the States or War of Northern Aggression)
    That isn’t really too difficult to understand, is it?

    izlamo delenda est …

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  68. Brethren, it’s already here. Wife got a Subaru loaner while her car is being serviced for a minor recall issue.

    The loaner car has no key, just a push button. It has chimes that sound if you drift in your lane. AND IT HAS A TOUCH SCREEN DISPLAY THAT DEMANDS YOU ADHERE TO ALL SPEED LAWS. YOU HAVE TO HIT THE ‘AGREE’ BUTTON BY TOUCHING THE SCREEN BEFORE THE CAR STARTS.

    Whatever I put in the gas tank will take a while to work through, so we can safely write this monstrosity off…. but there will be more…. prepare yourself gentlemen, THUNDERDOME IS UPON US!!!!!

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  69. All of your automatic transmissions have speed limiters as a feature.

    You want faster, you gotta know how to turn a wrench, read a scanner, and make what you want.

    Applies to this hurdle also. The real trick will be dealing with getting caught – as always.

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