The U.S. Seventh Fleet has ordered a temporary pause in operations while the navy undertakes a full review to determine why there have been four navigational incidents among U.S. warships plying Asian waters this year. Experts are suspecting that someone is either “spoofing” GPS signals or otherwise tampering with the navigational equipment on board ship.
Funny how these things seem to happen every time we sail one of our warships near China’s homemade islands, isn’t it?
Update: Reports are this morning that the bodies of the missing sailors on the USS John McCain were found aboard ship. More
Sounds like there’s a Chink in our armor.
It could be the Norks or even Russians or Iranians for that matter, but my money is on the Chinese.
Slanty eyes have been known to turn Vaginas sideways….
More Like a Homemade Bermuda Triangle !
Quit relying on technology so damn much.
I remember way back when Dr. Wang (founder of Wang Computers) was considering the slogan “WANG, the Chink in IBM’s armor!” But he though it might piss off the Asian community and do him more harm than good.
I’ll bet pirates never had this problem, they were pretty low tech. We can learn from them. Maybe put lookouts on deck or something radical like that.
Gps only tells you were you are it doesn’t work to prevent collisions — sometink else may be going on – like aiming those merchies at Navy Ships perhaps?
Last I heard the Navy still relies on some of the old fashion stuff to sail around so they would have look outs and watch officers to prevent running into obstacles and hazards to navigation. But if another ship is determined to run into you they stand a good chance of doing it if they so desire at little risk due to the size differences.
Sun Ting Wong!
Is This A Subtle Way Of Saying Stay The FU*K Away !
Not enough sailors outside with binoculars. Not cold enough in the radar room.
I read a while ago where the Navy has started to re-introduce basic navigation (compass, sextant, timepiece) in their courses at the Naval Academy.
There’s no substitution for Mark I eyeballs.
It’s Ocorpseman’s navy. Give it a year or so and it will get straightened out.
If you look at the pics of the impact site, there are no apparent signs of shear, which would suggest that the McCain was possibly not moving at the time of impact.
Something is going on.
This was pointed out during hussein’s rule, but nothing was done about it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123415/Putin-targets-foes-zombie-gun-attack-victims-central-nervous-system.html
Barry built this. The military has been compromised by the deep state and not confident it will recover. The Pentagon will likely ignore President Trump’s excellent directive.
No way an oil tanker intentionally hits an agile Navy ship, even one a few hundred feet long. This was avoidable.
What happened to the radar and collision avoidance? Both ships have this technology. Did anyone else notice all the rust stains on the side of the McCain? The navy couldn’t afford to paint their ships over the last 8 years?
There is something seriously askew in this Navy, including the branch’s proclivity to coverup as opposed to problem solving. This many ships in so little time?
There are many unanswered questions. I would like to know the names, ranks, genders of OODs. Thus far none of that.
Seventeen KIA Americans in and around the South China Sea, four separate GPS nav errors. Not a coincidence, but an act of war.
Trump will get the intel, then kill the fuckers that did this.
GPS spoofing has nothing to do with collisions, running aground yes but
collisions no. 35 years ago I was an Operations Specialist in the US Navy.
My job was to keep track of any and everything above the waterline. I am
very surprised by these two collisions. We always had 2 men tracking on
the radar and the officers could watch on a repeater on the other side of
the compartment. We also had a voice network to the look outs outside.
How the hell did someone miss the other ships? My Chief would have my ass
for not paying attention. The tech has changed in 35 years, is that the
problem? Is it the training? Is it the quality of today’s recruits? We need
to find the problem and fix it.
The Navy has been training about acceptance of every LGBT thing over the past 8 years. In addition they also have the generation that played sports were nobody kept score and everyone got a participation trophy.
Add to that that the senior leadership, both enlisted and officer, have been emasculated by the previous administration. We have a bunch of sensitive sailors who are not fully trained for warfare and have spent more hours with social issues than training on driving the damn boat.
The DOD has absolute control of our
GPS.They can spoof ALL comercial GPS
receivers and still have pin point
accuracy for military receivers.I would
imagine they can detect “false gps signals”
and tell where it is coming from…
Feels like we’re back in the 1961 plot of Ian Fleming’s “Dr.No”.
Hacking into US guidance systems on behalf of the Red Chinese.
56 years later. Still at it.
MikeD is absolutely correct. GPS is for positioning not collision avoidance. There are multiple system layers of technology and crew tracking ships and plotting courses. As someone posted on a Fitzgerald thread, a tanker hitting a destroyer in open water is as unlikely as a bulldozer ramming a Corvette Stingray on the salt flats. The Corvette driver, and the destroyer crew, have to be completely oblivious for the collision to occur.
Maybe with that destroyer gone they will deploy the rail gun early.
If this really is GPS spoofing or other electronic fuckery by the chinks, this is right out of the James Bond movie “Tomorrow Never Dies”.
And the current crop of officers coming out of Canoe U are sorely lacking in basic shiphandling & navigation skills. They need to rely on a solid foundation of dead reckoning, COLREGS knowledge and celestial navigation and use electronics only as a backup and aid.
My father, a former WWII Pacific AMM1st class and later a graduate of Canoe U would say of current Navy officers and non-coms “goddamit, those idiots can’t navigate their way out of a wet paper bag!” In contrast, I was thoroughly grounded in dead reckoning by the time I was 12 and knew basic celestial navigation by 15 yo.
Not a chance in hell it was the chineee, this is another straight American sailor phuckup.
7th Fleet is getting fired, I think it will go down as far a Commodore reliefs also.
The Navy is more interested in having Hispanic women/black women/lesbian women/single mom women/transgendered women and women of any unusual flavor at the helm of it’s ships than being an effective fighting force. Two of my sons were in the Navy and left when Obama got in office. They have friends who are recruiters that told them that they are discouraged from recruiting white males. They have been told to actively seek out Hispanic women because the Navy wants to be more inclusive. I’m glad Strategic Air Command didn’t operate like this when I was in it.
Spoofing explains why an unmanned vessel relying entirely on electronics might run into another vessel, but it does not explain how a manned ship with both electronics AND people on duty charged with watching out for other vessels cannot miss running into a ship as large as a city block.
Whatever happened to good old fashioned watch officers who were always alert to anything in the ocean near where their ship is located? Or is that a thing of the past like using a compass and sextant and dead reckoning their position by using the stars to guide them? Or am I old school and know that we still need to use these skills and not be totally reliant on technology.