Our military medical personnel train on human simulators in preparation for war injuries, they also train on live goats and pigs. The animals are anesthetized, injured, treated, then finally euthanized so that our soldiers, sailors and marines can experience “live tissue training” to better prepare for real situations.
Now Rep. Hank Johnson (GA-D) and Rep. Tom Marino (PA-R) have introduced a bill to end the practice by 2020.
An advocate for continuing the training Here
Is this the nut who was worried the island of Guam would sink if too many marines were on it?
Save the goats! Use liberals.
I did this on completion of residency. It was of limited usefulness to a pathologist, but for the medical/surgery/ER/GMO guys, it was of tremendous benefit. At least that’s what they said.
And I have admit, it was awfully cool when they induced a cardiac tamponade in the pig, watching what happens when we opened the pericardium to release the pressure. The animal when from crashing hard to normalizing within seconds. Very instructive.
I guess what I would say to Rep. Hank Johnson (Retard-GA) is that as soon as he figures out how to stop islands from capsizing, then I will consider him qualified to determine what is and is not appropriate medical training for physicians.
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Frankly I think this is a hard one. Nowhere does it state that the animal, once anesthetized, is not allowed to regain consciousness before being put down. To be honest I’d be better with the practice if it’s not allowed to awaken providing the animals have been well taken care of before their sacrifice. Not happy that PETA is involved with this as I suspect they’re just looking for publicity and donations and don’t really give a crap about the animals.
Hell, why not TDY the students to Emergency Rooms in Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles, Miami or Dallas for a one month stay. Bet they learn a lot more about stabbings, shootings, traumatic amputations and the like then they would at current facilities and the Emergency Rooms would be glad for the help.
Bubba YES! That is the moronic REp from Georgia that thought GUAM would tip over!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-DzuCPmXU
Would you sacrifice the life of one hundred pigs or goats if it meant your child or parent might be saved?
@scr North I recently saw an article in a military publication that recommended that very thing, assign combat medical personnel in big city ER’s for training.
We didn’t train on animals (except for each other)we did have very extensive training otherwise. The rest we learned on the job. In the field you can learn to improvise very quickly when you are trying to keep one of your brothers alive, and there are many times you thank God you were paying attention in class when they treated a simulated sucking chest wound, or when and how to cut a trach!
I just could not refuse to place this in the comments.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAEqXubT21I
I still wonder what PETAs position is on all living things?
If every creature’s life is sacred (except yet to be born humans) what is your position on fleas, ticks, mosquitos, tape worms, ring worms, leeches, etc. ? Lice?
Crocodiles are sacred but Africans are not?
Polar bears are sacred and Eskimos are not?
Silly people.
@scr_north – The animals were NOT I say again NOT allowed to regain consciousness before being put down.
Just to make sure I’m not misunderstood: The animals were killed while still under full general anesthesia.
My personal opinion: given the amount of blood loss the animal had sustained after having half a dozen procedures performed upon it, I have my doubts that it would have regained consciousness even if we had tried to wake it up. But we didn’t try. It got a blast of KCl while still asleep.
Just having Tom Marino (PA-R)’s name attached to a bill with Hank Johnson should disqualify him from sitting at the adult table.
Well, if they’re not going to use goats and pigs for live trauma training, maybe they could use Syrian refugee vetting rejects. (JK)
I don’t understand–isn’t this just a little side trip on the way to the mess hall?
Use PETA types. They’re not good for anything else.
I would love some bar-b-que Cabrito. Hope the troops got to enjoy some too.
My uncle Achmed used to do a lot of ‘military training’ at the petting zoo, but he’s not allowed anymore.
I’m pretty sure all of the submarine and Marine FMF Corpsmen go
through that training, and yes, it is humane for the animals.
I would suggest leftist progtards be used also for more
realistic training.