Freedom Caucus Backs Off Demand of Full Obamacare Repeal – Realizing It’s Not Possible When Short of the Votes – IOTW Report

Freedom Caucus Backs Off Demand of Full Obamacare Repeal – Realizing It’s Not Possible When Short of the Votes

Friday, 31 March 2017, 15:14 BFH Uncategorized 29

The Freedom Caucus, realizing they are short of the necessary votes to get a full repeal, are now in negotiation mode.

Two demands that are absolutely necessary in order to bridge the divide between AHCA’s proposal and full repeal is the stripping of Obamacare’s “Essential Health Benefits” (the provision that forces Adam to buy Eve’s maternity leave) and “Community Rating.”

Community Rating refers to an insurance pricing system that prohibits medical underwriting and requires that all of a carrier’s insureds in the same geographical area pay the same premiums, regardless of their health status.

Pure community rating means that age and gender are also not used to determine premiums. Since 2014, modified community rating has been used in the individual health insurance market: Medical underwriting is no longer be allowed, but there is some variation in premiums based on age. (Premiums will be up to three times higher for older applicants – in some states, the current pricing model allows for significantly higher ratios than this.) Tobacco users will still pay more for their health insurance.

Source: https://www.healthinsurance.org/glossary/community-rating/

It seems we may be getting closer to a bill, which isn’t perfect, but, could immediately lead to premiums coming down – which is the Freedom Caucus’s main priority.

Story at Wash Exam

29 Comments on Freedom Caucus Backs Off Demand of Full Obamacare Repeal – Realizing It’s Not Possible When Short of the Votes

  4. That artistic negotiator named Donald Trump would be wise to start negotiating with the Freedom Caucus, aka The Tea Party!
    He would not be president without them. He’s blaming the wrong people.

    Trump knows how to fire people? Why is that traitor Paul Ryan and a few others still hanging around?

  6. Sax-
    He did negotiate with them.
    Everything they asked for Trump said yes.
    Trump, exasperated when they said they wouldn’t vote for the bill after giving every concession, said, famously, “they wouldn’t take yes for an answer.”
    That’s why he blames them.

    They wanted full repeal – a request that could only be made by people who don’t understand a full repeal is impossible.
    Do you really think it’s possible but Trump is standing in the way?

    We have to maneuver in reality.

  8. GOP: We can’t repeal Obamacare; we don’t control the House.
    Voters: OK, we’ll give you the House.
    GOP: We can’t repeal Obamacare; we don’t control the Senate.
    Voters: OK, we’ll give you the Senate.
    GOP: We can’t defund Obamacare; we’ll look bad.
    Voters: Damn you, you bunch of RINOs! Here, we’ll give you TRUMP as President!
    GOP: We can’t repeal Obamacare because we don’t have the votes.
    Voters: Cowards! Use the Nuclear Option!

    12 years from now:
    GOP: Vote for us and we’ll repeal Obamacare! We mean it this time!
    Voters: Yeah, right.

  12. Dare I say it? God bless the HFC, but the majority of them, I think, were for the other guy throughout the primaries and way past the nomination. There you have it. Conservatives, yes, but more of the NR stripe. Why settle for mere “good” when you can hold out for Utopian conservatism. (And a faux one, at that, since everything Trump did he did according to regular, constitutional order. Still not good enough.)

    So, on the one side you’ve got RINO’s like Graham, McCain and several others, and on the other you’ve got the Mike Lee’s and their side. I hope Trump leads an effort to primary every last one of these SoB’s who either live in D.C. to feather their own nests, or who have zero capacity to craft passable (meaning, it can get the votes and advance the conservative ball) legislation.

  14. U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Huntsville, “Effective as of Dec. 31, 2017, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is repealed, and the provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.” Whoever votes against it loses in the next primary/election.

  16. There are some very good folks in the Freedom Caucus and there are some NeverTrumpers who pretend to be for the people but who, for whatever reason, want to weaken Trump so they control the agenda.

    I was not happy with Ryancare and think the whole thing was mishandled, but there’s another story here that we all need to be aware of.

    For example, Justin Amash is lauded for being a great conservative but google what this avowed NeverTrumper has said. He opposed Sessions as AG. He accused Trump of wanting to use the presidency to enrich his business holdings. He bought into the Russia/Trump collusion immediately, demanding that Sessions recuse himself. He slammed the immigration ban implying that Trump was banning muslims.

    Is this a man who is out to create a great health care bill or to weaken Trump? I think Trump’s tweets were telling the FC to get their members and priorities in line. The democrats would never have permitted one of their members to bash & undermine Obama as Amash has Trump.

  20. CST posted,

    “A full repeal bill has NEVER passed the Senate, not even the supposed “Full repeal” bill passed in 2015.”

    Fine.

    So what was those 60 or so repeal attempts about?

    If they were valid attempts at repeal, why didn’t even one of them pass?

    If none of them were valid attempts at repeal, why were the Rs lying? (lying IS the only alternative there and each of the 60 was a lie)

    And if they were lying about Obamacare then — I think we all know they were — then how can we trust anything they say about it now?

    Or about anything?

    This is not about trusting Trump. It’s about trusting a demonstrably untrustworthy Congress without which Trump is powerless on many things that MUST be changed or we’re done.

    These are dead serious questions that demand honest answers, from and among ourselves if no one else.

  22. Why are the republicans the only ones playing by the rules? Good discussion here, whether I agree with it all or not. Unless President Trump has some serious moves up his sleeve, fucking Ryan is about to get him to drive a lemon off the lot. I could be wrong, and sincerely hope that I am. Going after conservative republicans, unless it was just a ‘chess move’, is a huge mistake.

    The reason there wasn’t a good repeal/replace plan ready to go, is because the RINO leadership planned on losing, long term.

  23. Hear Hear! Boehnerdict Ryan Arnold! Apparently Repeal and Replace has been all lies from most of the Republicans these last 8 years. They sure had me believing in it.

    Repeal and Replace? What’s that? Says Paul Ryan and President Trump. We wouldn’t want to change any freaking stupid law that might help the ordinary citizens of America afford healthcare, now would we?

    Move along people. Just let the Honorable Paul Ryan run the White House.

    Puke.

  24. I’ll stand by what I said before. Nobody here wants Trump to succeed more than I do (even if I’m a big nobody here) ;p

    Attacking conservatives and siding with democrats would be a YUGE mistake on Trump’s part…they will stab him in the back first chance they get. That’s who they are.

    I too have been disillusioned with Mark levin of late, but he is still a brilliant man beholding to no one, and I think he nailed it on this.
    Time will tell who is right (but we can’t afford to get it wrong).

  28. The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don’t get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!
    DTrump
    REPLACE REPUBLICAN WITH BIG GOVERNMENT!!!

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