Holster Your Pitchforks and Torches – 4 Level Omnibus Chess Afoot????

Reader “Gunny” at Conservative Treehouse explains that this is a spending bill, not a budget. There is a YUGE difference. Trump observed Obama’s technique for 8 years, can he be taking a page from that playbook?

MJA said the same thing to me a couple of hours ago. In the fog of war, I wasn’t hearing it.

Gunny-

Wheatietoo and I spent hours yesterday providing links, researching the laws, the 1974 law and statutes…. Do you know why the Omnibus is not going to get any notice…Here it is..

It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’. It’s an Omnibus bill…not a Budget…He outsmarted them again…Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget…

Per the Constitution…the President must adhere to a Budget set forth by Congress and direct the expenditures as provided therein.

This is another one of those big Porkulus Bills, like they gave Obama for 8 years. This is not a Budget..

An Omnibus Spending Bill may have some ‘instructions’ as to how the money will be spent…but Obama ignored them.
He spent the money, or didn’t spend it, however he wanted to.
And Congress didn’t do a thing about it! Because they couldn’t..

And, it is only for 6 months..

I think our President observed how this happened, year after year.
He is bound to realize that those ‘appropriations’ for different things in these Omnibus bills…are merely ‘suggestions’.

So like Obama, Pres Trump can spend this money on whatever he wants to.
Or…not spend it.

Planned Parenthood?
What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to ‘slow-walk’ that money to Planned Parenthood…until the Senate gets off their ass and confirms his appointees?

Sanctuary Cities?
What if our President decided to ‘slow-walk’ that money too…until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?

Splodey heads? From the Dems and the Enemedia?
Why yes.
There would be a colorful display of splodey heads.

But what could they do about it.
Hah.

Our President could just say…’What! Congress should’ve passed a Budget.’

done finished…research was done…and it is so very humorous actually….our VSG..just said just give me money for the military and the wall…put anything else you want in it…and those goofballs did.

In this case, as per above….he doesn’t have to spend a dime….because it is not a budget…and even if it was…researched….he could still spend as he please…
Congress appropriates….up to the President to spend it…or not….as he pleases..

If anyone disagrees, I can go back and get the links and evidence, but if you just read yesterdays political thread…Wheatietoo and I laid it all out for all…Wheatietoo did most of the work and put together the consolidated update as per above….

Again, that is why Obama never had a Budget in his Presidency…Congress did continual Omibus’s and he just took the money….for 8 years…and no one seems to know where it went…

March 23, 2018 at 5:48 pm

 https:// theconservativetreehouse.com/ 2018/03/23/president-trump- reluctantly-signs-omnibus- maga-community-feels-a-little- less-great-today/

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75 Comments on Holster Your Pitchforks and Torches – 4 Level Omnibus Chess Afoot????

  1. Gunny’s got a good point … hope he’s right …. from what I’ve heard, the Senate has already placed in the Spending Bill a provision that they were not going to vote on a Budget for the next 2 years.

    … I’ve always wondered how O’Barky got all those billions to give to Val-Jar’s tribe

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  2. Heh. I remembered when I heard “omnibus” during the 0bama reign, no money was being spent where it was supposed to be spent on. And on construction, nothing was spent except for road signs. Do you guys remember any new bridges or 1000 mile stretches of new FWY being built? I don’t. And jobs were disappearing left and right…and remember the 0bamacare website that didn’t work? He was paying off his buds and hiding money. Where’s the money the state dept was given and Hillary ‘lost’?

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  3. Gunny-from your lips to God’s ears! I will holster my torch and pitchfork for now but I will keep them handy.

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  4. If anyone understands how the finances work in D.C. its OMB director and head of the CFPB Mick Mulvaney. If there’s a way to turn this on the Democrats, he’s just the guy to do it.

    The provision only last through September, then it will be a mad rush a month out from the midterms for Congress to do this all over again.

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  5. DJT is a builder and certainly had a budget for those buikdings. He has to think it’s crazy the way gov spends money. If this 4D chess is all true, he’d better tweet about it soon as everyone is freaking out about what just happened.

    I hate it when the Dems are happy.

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  6. I like this, but with a slight churn in my stomach. I’m feeling my Missouri roots. Show me.

    Meanwhile, We’re still waiting on the opportunity to solve Fur’s clue: Pan Dover Pissed…

    Where dat pic, Hanoverfist?

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  7. THEN WHY IS THE LEFT TOUTING THIS AS A BIG WIN?? JUST RHETORIC?? SEEMS THERE’S MORE TO IT PER ALL THE DRAMA!!

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  8. I was wondering about some of this today. Trump made a point of talking about how a lot of the money to the military and DOJ is discretionary and he mentioned it a couple of times. Then he had the head of ICE (I think, maybe Homeland) speak about sending more money to their department.

    What we really need it to get rid of Ryan and McConnell……
    and all the other RINOS.

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  9. ya know, Fur, if you posted this about 5 hours ago you could have saved my blood pressure from rising up & denting the ceiling!

    … now, I’ll be spackling & painting this weekend 😉

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  10. A thought.
    I believe the IG report comes into play. I know it sounds a little crazy, but i just can’t shake it. You look at the way Chucky, and Nancy are smiling. They way the RINO’S are smiling. All of us normal fold feel like we got gut punched. After you read the above, add in the forthcoming IG report, and what quiet Sessions might be up to behind close door. Im guessing it will shock everyone.

    If this all comes to light, and names are named, and this corruption is as bad as we all think it is, every elected democrat (and a bunch of RINO’s) are in deep do-do. Can you imagine the fall out. The who’s who. The who has been defending who. Mid terms are just around the corner. Can you imagine what the President can do when this can of worms is fully opened, and is the news cycle 24/7 for 3 months straight. The chaos that it will create is hard to fathom. I could go on and on. I’m just asking you to think about what is about to happen, and what could happen afterward.

    It might be 5-D chess. I lost the first game of chess i ever played at age 13ish. In the 34 years since, i never lost another one. You have to think 4 or 5 moves ahead. I have a sneaky feeling that is what might be going on. Got the military funding, and we will get the rest sorted out after the hammer falls.

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  11. “Do you guys remember any new bridges or 1000 mile stretches of new FWY being built?”
    – MJA

    Pfft! Lots of shovel ready jobs back then! They just forgot to buy shovels!

    Dang. It’s always the little things.

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  12. “I lost the first game of chess i ever played at age 13ish… …i never lost another one.”

    Me too! We have something in common!

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  13. The President knows what he’s doing. I’m no drone, but this doesn’t even worry me.
    My dad – a long time Union Democrat watches CNN and network news all day. Yesterday I drove him to pick up his car from the shop and I had Levin on my radio. He made a comment which started with “Your President”. I informed him, “He’s your President too, whether you like it or not”.
    Just now I overheard ABC news trying to drag Trump through the mud. They covered for Bill Clinton, but focus like a laser beam on Trump. It really makes me sick. And worse…my dad acts like a lemming believing everything they spew.

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  14. Me thinks he’s set them up. He has shown over and over again his ability to out maneuver them. Why should this time be any different? That presser today was depressing and he sounded defeated. Not like Trump. The joy the Dems were feeling may have blinded them to his plan. He knows how to play on emotions. I am firmly on-board until PROVEN otherwise.

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  15. “THEN WHY IS THE LEFT TOUTING THIS AS A BIG WIN?? JUST RHETORIC?? SEEMS THERE’S MORE TO IT PER ALL THE DRAMA!!”

    Well, it may be because they don’t think Trump will do, or knows he can do, what Big Mike’s husband did with the money. Put it everywhere except for where it was supposed to go.

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  16. I’m a moron and have no idea what’s up, that why I always hope an intellectual will explain what’s happening guess not.
    So Trump is still ok or what?

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  17. I hope CTH is right. And I hope some asshole Federal Judge doesn’t try some of the usual shit if Trump takes control of the wallet for a few months.

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  18. Dave,
    I’m not an intellekshual, but I think it means “wait and see.”
    Trump might very well tweet something to the effect of “thanks for the money, kids. Now sit back and watch what I do with it.”

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  19. The problem is this really was nothing more than the establishment taking a stance against Trump. Trump is the only one that can break his bond with voters. The establishment only cares about the perception and spin. If Trump is seen as not fighting, not getting his agenda done and worse, joining the swamp then a lot of his supporters are going to get really angry and say what is the point. And if you heard any am radio today after the bill was signed that was exactly what the callers said. The establishment just got what they wanted – they harmed Trump. They got the perception and story that Trump is no longer a guy worth supporting. He really needs to get in front of people and explain himself better. What they also harmed was his negotiator imagine. There was no visibility into that and it looks from outward appearances that he just folded. I have a very bad feeling this is not going to go well for him long term and I don’t believe he is a master chess player outsmarting everyone.

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  20. So, it is a chess game.
    Well, many people were playing tic-tac-toe, throwing Xs and 0s all over the board.

    Let’s keep praying for our President and his administration, guys!

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  21. Anonymous March 23, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    Let’s hope it’s like when a tsunami sucks the water from the shoreline before it swamps the swamp.

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  22. Good that Gunny whacked some sense into some of the more negative folks. He’s right.

    LET TRUMP BE TRUMP.

    🙂

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  23. I felt like something like this was afoot.
    Taking the Gunny Maxim, the President spends how he sees fit
    Here is what I put in the win column:
    The Military can get what they need
    The gloating dems are on camera, spewing their gloat breath to be recorded
    The dems are fully exposed for their abandonment of the dreamers (which just may bring Hispanics to the Trump Train)
    The wall gets built
    Schumer and Pelosi look happy with all the rope Mr. Trump is paying out

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  24. “Planned Parenthood?
    What if our President decided to tell the Treas Dept to ‘slow-walk’ that money to Planned Parenthood…until the Senate gets off their ass and confirms his appointees?

    Sanctuary Cities?
    What if our President decided to ‘slow-walk’ that money too…until those Sanctuary Cities assist ICE in rounding up criminal illegal aliens?”

    Oh, God! Please let this be true. Amen.

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  25. After being served shit sandwiches for 8 years under obama, I can deal with this fart in the wind omnibus bill for 6 months, I have no choice.

    I sure hope Gunny is 100% correct.

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  26. It is now appearing that our President, Donald J. Trump is so far ahead of these Liberal Dems, RINOS, & Progressives in general, that this is no longer 3rd, 4th, or even 5th level chess ahead of them. Think of Trump Tower as a comparison. They are trying to play chess at the basement level, while he continues to play at the rooftop level. They have no clue to what is going to happen until it hits them right between the eyes. The dumb ones won’t know what transpired & the smart ones will try to find a wormhole to squirm into to hide, only to find Mr. Trump has filled them all in & created a situation where they can’t dig themselves a new one.

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  27. “Trump is so far ahead of these Liberal Dems, RINOS, & Progressives in general, that this is no longer 3rd, 4th, or even 5th level chess ahead of them. ”

    Is it really that?

    Explain how that works in light of him just having broken his promise. What’s that strategy called?

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  28. Mrs p Henry is a bright woman and I value her observations.

    What if obama has so gutted the military to such a dangerous level that all else needs to be ignored for the time being? A deal like this accepted by a president like this because of the extreme peril we are in might explain this seeming retreat.

    Missus is very smart.

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  29. PHenry,

    Then what he needs to do is come out immediately on TV and briefly but clearly explain just how bad off we are militarily and what kind of threat we are currently under, which would conceivably justify everything he just signed off on. He MUST convince us, fast.

    If he doesn’t…well…it was fun for a year.

    I’m beyond bored and sick of all these Nth D chess speculations when on this one, he broke his word to us.

    It IS that simple.

    He broke his word.

    TO US.

    How can he justify dropping A HALF BILLION on PP?

    The Rs…they’re bought, simple. They’re wicked hypocrites, have been for a long time.

    What’s Trump’s excuse? I don’t know but I want to hear it FROM HIM.

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  30. @grool.

    Another point from my smart missus. If military is so depleted, not combat ready, would it be wise to broadcast that?

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  31. I hope he’s right and will wait and see. Like I said earlier I still support Trump, but right now I can only see the bad.

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  32. PHenry,

    After the last 8 years of deliberate weakening and rotten sabotage…which is ongoing!…I have NO doubt our enemies already know exactly what we are and are not capable of anymore.

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  33. @grool.

    Yep.

    We’ve never had internal enemies like this in the past.
    So playing budgetary games, letting Dems celebrate their victory, all the while building ok rebuilding our military is a very good thing.

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  34. If this is the work around that is required to have Washington function as an actual functional government then we have really gone off the cliff and crashed in a ball of fire. Sad to think we are actually paying these morons.

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  35. I know. But hey, if 0bama did it, so can Trump. And before Trump is done, he can plug that hole, salt the earth, do whatever so that this sneaky gubmint bidness is stopped.

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  36. Hate to give Ryan and Turtle any credit, but they probably were in on it. Or they didn’t realize the potential of what they did. However after bummer’s antics with spending bills, they had to know.

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  37. And all this time I thought there were no annual budgets because of laziness or incompetence. I should have known it was much worse. Where is Mueller and his charge of defrauding the USA? It would apply to this in spades.

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  38. This nonsensical tripe has been shared ALL over Facebook today. Not ONE person who shared it took 5 SECONDS to THINK before they did. The president cannot just spend whatever he wants arbitrarily. Our system of government does not work that way. If it did, the wall would ALREADY be built via other spending bills that have already passed.

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  39. The reason America “broke out” as the most powerful and wealthiest country on the planet and the history of the world is because honored God and God was with us; and his blessings allowed us to flourish.

    In the past 50 years we have kicked God out of our lives, our families, schools, business, government, etc. We have told him we know better. He has allowed us to do this and now we have been turned over to our reprobate minds, and we all see how that is working out for us.

    To pick one item, as long as we continue to kill HIS children ($500 M for aborticide), those blessings will not be forthcoming again. The are HIS children as well as we belong to HIM.

    Without God we will not MAGA.

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  40. Here’s what I hope comes from this. Trump’s been trying to “manage” Ryan and Turtle Boy. They just bitch slapped Trump good. It’s time for Trump to wage war on the RINO’s and I think he’s there now.

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  41. @ C. Steven Tucker,

    From what I’ve read, the Omnibus spending Bill does not have the same spending requirements as an actual budget.

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  42. Praying Trump is a master gamer lead by God, who just took out the Dems, RINOs and NeverTrumpers in one fell swoop. I never stopped trusting Trump, but he makes this Trump train ride scary traveling over narrow mountain roads. Guess I better stop looking out the window. God willing and the creek don’t rise, we’ll Keep America Great.

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  43. @ DaveVA

    I’m with you on abortion being the worst thing. But I am convinced every one of them goes straight to God. They are perfectly innocent and sinless. That’s the only upside I can see to the millions of children dying around the world for any reasons.

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  44. So POTUS has no control over $ that’s already appropriated? He can’t slow or stop it being spent for what it is marked for?

    Well, IF he can’t then all of this is just BS spin and graveyard whistling as bad as anything leftists pull out of their collective ass when they lie to us. And I am pretty sure that every one of you here knows it.

    Consider the possibilities.

    IF this is a Trump gamble, it’s the riskiest yet. If that $$$ goes to PP, it will be over forever for a lot of people. We haven’t seen staying home in protest like we’ll see if that happens. And Trump will have broken his word to do it (don’t tell me he didn’t, you know he did).

    Or…IF it’s just the start of selling out to the swamp, it likely won’t stop. I don’t need to say what happens next…same result as above.

    Either way, not seeing how any good is coming out of this.

  45. I’m holding my water until I get to a better place to vent.
    It’s only been a day, takes longer to find out they are Muslim.
    Oh come on, you know who “they” are.
    I’m with Mr.Pinko, hasn’t lost my trust yet.
    I really didn’t like the smarmy solon smiles though.

  46. There is a narrative spreading around Facebook which is entirely inaccurate. I believe “Gunny” started it. It states incorrectly that because President Trump signed an “Omnibus bill” and not a budget he can spend or not spend the appropriated funds as he sees fit. This could not be further from the truth. While the president does have strong influence, there are multiple laws that place constraints on the president as to how he can spend money appropriated by congress. One of them is the Impoundment Control Act of 1974. That law states that “the president may propose to defer spending for a time as long as the deferral does not extend beyond the fiscal year or long enough to allow budget authority to lapse. Each deferral must be accompanied by a message to Congress with the details and justification for the deferral. The Comptroller General reviews each deferral and informs Congress of the accuracy, legality, and impact of the deferrals. Under the act, the president may not refuse to spend funds unless the president proposes a rescission to Congress. Once such a proposal has been made, Congress has 45 days of continuous session to approve to rescind all, a portion, or none of the funds. If Congress fails to act, executive must release the funds.” For more about the legal constraints placed upon the president read the linked document below: https://www.vanderbilt.edu/csdi/includes/WP_1_2017_final.pdf

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