Michigan Lawmakers Want To Make Property Owner Liable For “Gun Free Zone”

Michigan Capital Confidential

A Republican state representative has introduced legislation that would hold government offices and private businesses liable if anyone is injured during a shooting in a gun-free zone on their premises.

State Rep. Gary Eisen, R-St. Clair Township, introduced House Bill 4975, which would revoke governmental immunity from lawsuits arising from injuries sustained on government property where guns are banned. Eisen is also the sponsor of House Bill 4976, which would make a government, business or individual that designates a property a gun-free zone responsible for the safety of individuals who enter it.

Eisen said the intention was to require a business or government that enforces a gun-free policy to take responsibility through measures like hiring security guards. More

18 Comments on Michigan Lawmakers Want To Make Property Owner Liable For “Gun Free Zone”

  1. That’s my Rep. Wish I could show a picture of his mailbox. It’s the biggest 1911 (handgun) I’ve ever seen. Puts a big stupid grin on my face every time I pass it.

  2. Wait! ……WHAT? Hold a person responsible for their own actions!?

  3. Joe6, I actually pondered that very thought after posting. I can imagine some snowflake carrier claiming intimidation or fear of it.

  4. Great idea. It will never make it past our Marxist governor, but still a great idea. I am one of those unfortunates who works in a defenseless victim zone. I probably wouldn’t carry if I could, but still I hate that I don’t even have the option.

  5. You are liable if you deny people on your property the right of self-defense. I think the courts would uphold it – ultimately.

  6. I have always felt that any business or agency that prohibits firearms tacitly implies responsibility for the patrons safety but thus far efforts to break their immunity from lawsuits in MO have not borne fruit.

    Carry restrictions in an open carry state are unconstitutional regardless. I conceal carry everywhere I go in MO.

  7. @ joe6pak…
    @ Different Tim…

    You can make any damn thing you want into a mail box as long as you include a USPS approved tin can box into your design. They are easy enough to hide in the design. You can also make something and have it approved by the USPS but we can all assume the nightmare that might be. There is a height requirement for where you actually put the mail, just roughly measure an existing one. Proximity to the road is a consideration too….

    Like most government agencies it can be a simple solution or you’ll get a bureaucrat that’s a prick and will actually misquote the printed regulations that are easily accessible. Some communities have requirements that can be imposed such as, it must break away from the ground so the son of a bitch that was playing ‘mailbox baseball’ doesn’t die when he hits it……..I had to put my mailbox back up for about 4 straight years until I built one using 2″ chrome-moly air drill pipe with 1/2″ walls and 240 lbs of concrete 3′ down in the ground. It got hit once and never went down to the ground or was bent. I know that car was launched in the air a wee bit….Pulled it back straight with my tractor and it was never hit again…..LOL…

  8. Willy, many communities around here regulate how you mount your mailbox because people were hitting the brick and mortar ones and getting hurt. My opinion was they were on people’s lawns and the hitters were trespassing. Also had problems in rural areas where kids were driving by on dirt roads and taking them out with baseball bats. After happening twice to a co-worker of mine he had one constructed of quarter inch steel plate. He found a broken ball bat a couple weeks after putting it up.

  9. @ Different Tim….Yep…..I know all too well, but bureaucrats inevitably show their stupidity and the holes in their logic and rules….It just takes creativity and skills or knowing somebody with those skills. The “must break away” rule is easy. Heavy duty truck springs mounted to the ground is a solution that pisses everybody off but the mailbox owner…..LOL…

  10. last year I was required to spend several hours in the Detoilet Airport wait for my flight, sans my daily carry. I felt like my pants were around my ankles.
    the armed tsa clowns told me in conversation that they had been ordered to duck and let the cops in situ handle anything dangerous. I asked what the public should do in that case. I was told it’s not their problem. OK.
    so I am up for the liability of those forcing a gun free zone. I would sue the gubmint for the national debt if I got injured.


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