…and I’m one of them. While the article tries to argue that you’ve got nothing to lose, I beg to differ. Given that the flu shot is itself a shot in the dark (they have to guess which flu strain will be the most prevalent) why bother? More
Then there’s what happened recently to Lou Ferrigno (TV’s “Incredible Hulk”) when he had a flu shot-> Here
I’ve only had 1 flu shot. Five days later I was sickest I’ve been since I was a kid. Barely got out of bed for 4 days.
Ask yourself, can you really trust Big Pharma and Big Government?
Then by all means, get in front of me and roll up your sleeve.
Even if you still have your doctor, a huge If, what can he really tell you about these vaccines? (His nurse can read you the promotional material)
Last shot I got was in 2008 or 09. Never again. 2 weeks sick on the couch, couldn’t move. So much pain, coughing, vomiting, I could only eat warm liquid jello, + handling the diabetes? FTS! Never again!
Lou looks good, though. And he’s wearing a green hospital gown. lol
I don’t trust the CDC, they are run by democrats and that’s NEVER good.
Ferrigno had an adverse reaction to what reads like a poorly administered PNEUMONIA immunization, not flu. They are for two completely different illnesses, though they can co-exist and complicate each other. Reading what he has written, it sounds like a cellulitis from a contamination of the administering device, and not what was administered.
Lots of people avoid immunizations. I can’t, as I work with impaired elderly. I don’t like getting all the ‘shots,’ but I also will not argue to be able to potentially inflict an illness that I could be harboring, on another who is not able to provide a viable defense to that illness. My alternative is to not be able to do what I feel most called to do. So, ‘I’ve had my shots,’ as they say. And I’ve got enough on my hands helping others who need that help, to argue with others about vaccinations. I can understand both sides of the argument. At this point in my life, I’ve figured this out for me, and don’t wish to tell another how to figure it out for them.
I’ve heard a lot of people say they came down with the flu immediately after getting the shot, and it happened to me three times¹. Sure, sure, I know the line: “But the vaccine is made with killed virus and it CANNOT make you sick!” Yeah, and the check is in the mail, I PROMISE.
I acknowledge that this is anecdotal evidence. But once you have a lot of anecdotes, what you end up with is data.
1. I was in the Army and I was ORDERED to take those shots.
I get a flu shot every year and have never gotten the flu. The biggest reaction I’ve had is soreness at the injection site for a day or two. The author is right it’s a bit of a crap shoot vis a vis the strain but they’re more often right than they are wrong.
I’ve never had a ‘Flu Shot’, and I’ve never really had a bad flu hit me. knock on wood. I agree with your reasoning. Also, your body does a fine job fighting off diseases… if you let it do so. Beef up your zinc, potassium, and magnesium. You’ll be fine.
We always take a Flu Shot because we were born with such a small amount of Mercury in our blood.
“Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them, well, I have others.” – Groucho Marx
I’ve not had a flu shot for decades and that was only because I was in the health field. I think the last was 2005 and that was under protest. I think they are more dangerous than beneficial.
a healthy diet + mineral supplements = good immune system. Natures flu shot.
Is it possible to have an allergic reaction to the flu shot that’s not fatal?
The last three times I’ve gotten the flu shot, I soon was very sick with flu-like symptoms (thought I was going to have to go to the hospital a couple of times) then had severe sinusitis for weeks after, which had to be treated.
No more flu shots for me. The cure is worse than the disease in my case.
Years ago I took flu shots 3 years in a row and promptly got sick with the flu days after getting each shot. Haven’t gotten one since and haven’t gotten sick with the flu either. I laugh when the quacks get on TV or Radio or publish an article saying its impossible to get sick from the flu shot when we all know so many people who have gotten sick from the shot.
I’ve gotten bad colds and sinus infections with the occasional touch of bronchitis, but never the flu. I don’t trust whats in those shots either.
Pharmaceutical companies like to push this lucrative nonsense because vaccines get a special federal exemption from liability.
The public also has been brainwashed into believing that anything called a “vaccine” is akin to those truly great breakthroughs that went after polio and smallpox.
Pharmaceutical companies also like to research for “medicines” that require lifetime consumer purchases rather than cures.
Sci-fi time-
When you get a vaccination, your body responds to the presence of an introduced weakened virus by building antibodies. But the virus has been introduced, and could possibly remain present, though in a tenuated state, being kept inactive by the antibodies. Someday, some evil person will figure out how to stop the antibody responses and let the already present viruses run rampant. It would be sort of an ‘anti-vaccine’ vaccine.
I don’t know how accurate that is, though it could be, but it makes for the beginnings of a nice bedtime story.
I’m supposed to get it every year because of my Lupus. But I don’t. The one and only time I got a flu shot, I got sick as hell. So I skip it. But since I’m basically a shut-in hermit/misanthrope, I’m unlikely to catch the flu from someone else.
I get the shot every year (although I am generally wary of big pharma).
I’ve never gotten sick, either with the shot or the flu. (I do, also, take massive doses of vitamin C, as needed, up to 20 grams/day on a grey cloudy day. …smile.) …..Lady in Red
Attenuated virus my ass. Too many tales of sickness following the shots for me to risk it on a maybe.
Thanks anti-vaxxer assholes. These shots are free in many places. People are absolute morons not to get them. JFC.
I had the flu which turned into Pneumonitis three Christmas’s in a row. I was flying home and must have gotten the flu from someone on the plane. I took the flu shot the next three years and was fine. I stopped getting the shot because I couldn’t afford to fly home any more. That was about 8 years ago. Never got the flu since then.
I was told to get a pneumonia shot because I don’t have a spleen.
Three weeks later I came down with pneumonia for the first time in my life. My doctor looked shocked.
Another doctor, an integrative physician said that my immune system was probably weakened from the shot causing me to catch pneumonia. He had me take vitamin D and other natural supplements to increase my immune system.
I don’t get flu shots anymore. They also seem to make me ill.
I don’t believe the science is settled. Immunizations are great if you know there is no choice and it is a matter of life or death such as rabies.
Remember the Swine Flu vaccine of 1975 – when DOD ordered everyone to take it? Mine put me on my back at sea for over a week. Won’t take one ever again – and I’ve had the flu several times since. I’d rather get the real thing than volunteer to get sick with someone’s concoction. (From the for what it’s worth department of redundancy department.)
I just got my flu and pneumonia shots a couple weeks ago. I had the flu one time that I can remember as an adult a couple of decades ago and both Geoff C. and I were one day away from the hospital — both in bed for a week. Had to call his mom up from Portland to take care of us and our toddler. I’m not sure I would survive the flu at home again and I don’t want to test that.
But there’s nothing to prevent a cold and I’ve got a doozy this week! I think I get sick from whatever is hanging out at the doctors office these days, so I don a face mask as soon as I hit the reception area. Wash your hands and don’t touch your face when you’re out and about.
They supposedly recommend for senior citizens.
I’m 72 and don’t get the shot and don’t get the flu.
I get a flu shot every year. Never had a problem
On the other hand, the drug that is supposed to shorten a bout of flu, Tamiflu, is pure fucking poison. It almost killed my wife two years ago.
AA- sorry to hear about your cold
If you do everything the doctor says, you’ll be better in 2 weeks, and if you do nothing to treat it, you’ll feel better in 14 days.
free advice, that is
hope you feel better, and drink lots of fluids!
Everyone in my family that got a flu shot this year, got the flu. My oldest son and I did not get the shot, and we didn’t get the flu.
I got my flu shot at the VA, do they get the lowest bidder version??
There was considerable resistance to Smallpox vaccines when first introduced. Polio, Rubella, Mumps and Whooping Cough are no longer fearful scourges.
This is due largely to vaccinations.
Around 2005 I got the flu and it damn near killed me. And it came back repeatedly. It affected my coworkers similarly- we called it the ‘Monback Flu.
After that experience I got yearly vaccinations on the advice of my doctor. He explained the difficulty of predicting the expected flu strain, and suggested the killed virus vaccine was the best choice.
I never had a serious reaction from the inoculations. And, more important, I haven’t caught the flu since then.
Five years ago he recommended not getting the vaccination.
Something to think about…
TheMule- Now wait a minute. Are you talking to me?
OK fine. I’ll go take the flu shot, I’ll get sick as hell and possibly die, after I spread it to someone else, with maybe the same results happening to them. Would that make YOU feel better?
This ‘vaccine’ only works 25% of the time, and it’s not the same as a vaccine for Mumps or Measles or whatever, so I don’t qualify as an “anti-vaxxer.”
I took the damned shots for 15 fucking years straight. Every year, I caught it worse and worse, got sicker and sicker, worse allergies, joint pain, ER visit 3 years in a row before the last injection.
If Jonas Salk himself rose out of his grave and said, “MJA, take the Flu vaccine”, I’d tell Mr. Salk to eat a dick. That’s how much I hate the flu shot.
And don’t call me an asshole.
Asshole.
IF a vaccine works, you eliminate a disease.
The flu, the common cold and pneumonia ARE NOT diseases that can be cured or eliminated.
I received a flu shot at skrewl back in ’73 and became sick as a dog! I will not guess whether I had the flu or the creeping crud but I will not have another…. That stated, I (joints not withstanding) have been extremely healthy since, without inoculations.
“Speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act.” Geo. Orwell
Had to come back and add, if you want to get the flu shot, I con’t care. Not my business. I’m not here to clown anyone who wants to if it works for them all the time, some of the time, whatever.
There is no evidence that these flu shots reduce the incidence of flu. It is irresponsible of the govt medical quackery complex to push them but since when are they guided by science and evidence.
This is one of many recent studies showing that vitamin D supplementation is more effective at preventing the flu than vaccines.
http://www.anh-usa.org/vitamin-d-vs-flu-shots/
You don’t have to be an “anti-vaxxer” to understand that “science” is proving over and over again that vaccines aren’t all they are cracked up to be and the potential downsides are pretty horrific even if they are relatively rare.
Never get the shot, not had the flu since I was a kid. Don’t trust em.
Had the flu 11 years ago, got it from my youngest. She was down for 11 days, I was down for 7. Holy hell it suuuuuuuuucked.
I am mandated to get the shot or I’m not allowed to work. I get cranky when I feel coerced but I love my work so I suck it up.
I have taken care of 3 people who developed Guillain Barre after having the shot. Simply pitiful. But the medical community applies the mentality of “the needs of the many outweigh the rights of the few”.
Taking the flu shot is to willingly be a guinea pig in government experiments.
I’m an anti-vaxer asshole too, evidently. 🙂
Not sure if they are free or not, or why that matters a fucking whit?
Thanks, MJA. Seems there’s a “vaxxer” who is experiencing a permanent side effect known as a nasty a** attitude.