17 Comments on Was Jesus a Socialist like the left claims?
Hold on… Just last year I read the LGBQTCFXYZ crowd was saying He was gay. Those pricks are always making up claims against those who aren’t here to defend themselves.
Have to go… I’m reading an article saying Ted Kennedy used to give blow jobs to elementary school boys.
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No.
I believe I read somewhere that Jesus told his disciples that if rejected, they were to shake the dust off their feet and move on.
A socialist, on the other hand, would have told his disciples that if rejected, they kill everyone in town, women and children included, as examples for the surrounding countryside.
izlamo delenda est …
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False doctrine abounds, a sign of the times we are in.
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Parable of the talents…
He was looking to reward increase
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God helps those who help themselves- we are to be good stewards oh bodies and talents…
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John 19.
8 When Pilate heard this, he was even more afraid, 9 and he went back inside the palace. “Where do you come from?” he asked Jesus, but Jesus gave him no answer. 10 “Do you refuse to speak to me?” Pilate said. “Don’t you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?”
11 Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.”
ALL authority is given by God – ALL civil authorities are called by God. If Socialists actually READ their Bible, or understood something like, ohhhh… say, Martin Luther’s “Two Kingdoms” distinction (read, “The Christian & Temporal Authority: To what extent should it be obeyed?” – 1523), they’d realize – Jesus was NO commie. 🙄
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“Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate. For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.”
2 Thessalonians 3:6-12 ESV
Debate over.
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It is a good message, but I can’t share it. I get tired of seeing the long hair, the “soft” Jesus.
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Someone who isn’t a dedicated Christian can easily
confuse it with the outer appearance as socialism.
Heck, there are priests who bobble that up.
The two are actually 180° opposites.
Christ very clearly put the responsibility directly
on each of us as individuals to care for those who
need help.
Socialism subordinates the individual to the demands
of a faceless state and removes both his freedom and
any responsibility for others from him.
That’s why it is so popular with the morally lazy
who are happy to pass any responsibility onto someone
else at a terrible cost to their imperilled souls.
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The main problem with socialism is that it is never voluntary and always forced by the point of a gun. I’m always telling liberals that in our country they are free to practice socialism among themselves but they never do because it’s not about socialism – – it’s about taking someone else’s stuff and the exercise of power. They never have any debating points to come back with.
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Phil Swill, “God helps those who help themselves.”
It’s true that you can’t sit around and wait for God to do something for you. Take looking for a job, for instance. You have to make the effort to do the preliminary work like get your resume out, make calls or visits to prospective employers, etc. But that statement is not in the Bible. I searched for it one time when someone said that to me. Long story, but I determined that just the opposite is true.
Look at the leaders in the Scriptures; Abraham was afraid and a liar, David was an adulterer and killed an innocent man for his wife, Moses was arrogant to think he could perform the miracle better by striking the rock instead of just speaking (like God commanded) and have the water flow. There are more instances, but God prefers to use failed humans to do great things. They just need to be willing to let God work through them.
If you can do it on your own, you don’t see the need for God. That doesn’t mean you don’t do what you can. You are correct about needing to be a good steward and ‘you don’t eat if you don’t work’. That is in the Bible.
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The left is always trying to hijack the Bible, God and Jesus.
They want us to look at them as our sufficiency in all things and as the supplier of all of our needs.
They want us to look at them as gods.
They haven’t managed to censor the Bible or preachers yet so it’s not working.
It’s nothing but an empty, false excuse for them taking our money. Jesus said God loves a cheerful giver. He did not say God loves a cheerful taker of other people’s money and goods.
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God can’t, nor won’t, steer a parked car…you have to do your part.
This “Jesus was a Socialist” (and the other “looks like a surfer dude”) is not only idiotic but an argument used by people who want to justify their own laziness, and who clearly do not read the Bible for what it says but for what they want it to say.
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Neither was he a “Palestinian”…
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Nothing like a bunch of pansy atheists trying to dictate and “teach” what is or isn’t in the Bible to the ignorant masses. Also known as demons.
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@DaveVA
Report to your nearest LCMS congregation THIS Sunday – hup, hup, hup!!!
I like the thought. But Jesus’ parables actually had eternal meanings to them. The parable of the talents had to do with one person being granted salvation later than someone who had been granted salvation much earlier.
Hold on… Just last year I read the LGBQTCFXYZ crowd was saying He was gay. Those pricks are always making up claims against those who aren’t here to defend themselves.
Have to go… I’m reading an article saying Ted Kennedy used to give blow jobs to elementary school boys.
No.
I believe I read somewhere that Jesus told his disciples that if rejected, they were to shake the dust off their feet and move on.
A socialist, on the other hand, would have told his disciples that if rejected, they kill everyone in town, women and children included, as examples for the surrounding countryside.
izlamo delenda est …
False doctrine abounds, a sign of the times we are in.
Parable of the talents…
He was looking to reward increase
God helps those who help themselves- we are to be good stewards oh bodies and talents…
John 19.
8 When Pilate heard this, he was even more afraid, 9 and he went back inside the palace. “Where do you come from?” he asked Jesus, but Jesus gave him no answer. 10 “Do you refuse to speak to me?” Pilate said. “Don’t you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?”
11 Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.”
ALL authority is given by God – ALL civil authorities are called by God. If Socialists actually READ their Bible, or understood something like, ohhhh… say, Martin Luther’s “Two Kingdoms” distinction (read, “The Christian & Temporal Authority: To what extent should it be obeyed?” – 1523), they’d realize – Jesus was NO commie. 🙄
“Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate. For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.”
2 Thessalonians 3:6-12 ESV
Debate over.
It is a good message, but I can’t share it. I get tired of seeing the long hair, the “soft” Jesus.
Someone who isn’t a dedicated Christian can easily
confuse it with the outer appearance as socialism.
Heck, there are priests who bobble that up.
The two are actually 180° opposites.
Christ very clearly put the responsibility directly
on each of us as individuals to care for those who
need help.
Socialism subordinates the individual to the demands
of a faceless state and removes both his freedom and
any responsibility for others from him.
That’s why it is so popular with the morally lazy
who are happy to pass any responsibility onto someone
else at a terrible cost to their imperilled souls.
The main problem with socialism is that it is never voluntary and always forced by the point of a gun. I’m always telling liberals that in our country they are free to practice socialism among themselves but they never do because it’s not about socialism – – it’s about taking someone else’s stuff and the exercise of power. They never have any debating points to come back with.
Phil Swill, “God helps those who help themselves.”
It’s true that you can’t sit around and wait for God to do something for you. Take looking for a job, for instance. You have to make the effort to do the preliminary work like get your resume out, make calls or visits to prospective employers, etc. But that statement is not in the Bible. I searched for it one time when someone said that to me. Long story, but I determined that just the opposite is true.
Look at the leaders in the Scriptures; Abraham was afraid and a liar, David was an adulterer and killed an innocent man for his wife, Moses was arrogant to think he could perform the miracle better by striking the rock instead of just speaking (like God commanded) and have the water flow. There are more instances, but God prefers to use failed humans to do great things. They just need to be willing to let God work through them.
If you can do it on your own, you don’t see the need for God. That doesn’t mean you don’t do what you can. You are correct about needing to be a good steward and ‘you don’t eat if you don’t work’. That is in the Bible.
The left is always trying to hijack the Bible, God and Jesus.
They want us to look at them as our sufficiency in all things and as the supplier of all of our needs.
They want us to look at them as gods.
They haven’t managed to censor the Bible or preachers yet so it’s not working.
It’s nothing but an empty, false excuse for them taking our money. Jesus said God loves a cheerful giver. He did not say God loves a cheerful taker of other people’s money and goods.
God can’t, nor won’t, steer a parked car…you have to do your part.
This “Jesus was a Socialist” (and the other “looks like a surfer dude”) is not only idiotic but an argument used by people who want to justify their own laziness, and who clearly do not read the Bible for what it says but for what they want it to say.
Neither was he a “Palestinian”…
Nothing like a bunch of pansy atheists trying to dictate and “teach” what is or isn’t in the Bible to the ignorant masses. Also known as demons.
@DaveVA
Report to your nearest LCMS congregation THIS Sunday – hup, hup, hup!!!
http://locator.lcms.org/nchurches_frm/church.asp
I like the thought. But Jesus’ parables actually had eternal meanings to them. The parable of the talents had to do with one person being granted salvation later than someone who had been granted salvation much earlier.
Parables always had a heavenly message…