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Why do bicyclists get to ride their vehicles on the road anonymously?

Saturday, 7 November 2015, 8:00 BFH Uncategorized 51

Bike fags should be identifiable just like cars have to be.

51 Comments on Why do bicyclists get to ride their vehicles on the road anonymously?

  2. I had an encounter with a bike person recently.
    He said I had a responsibility to “Share the Road”
    I told him I would, when:
    He pays a fee to register his vehicle
    His vehicle is outfitted with lights and turn signals like all other vehicles on the road
    He pays to take and pass a test verifying his knowledge of road rules for his vehicle
    He pays a road tax just like I do
    And that he remain on roads widened, and constructed for dual use by both bikes and cars.
    He said I was unreasonable.
    I explained the Mass equals Right of Way axiom and left him to his delusions

  3. Our county (supervisors) are on the way to unleashing this mayhem on us. They want to spend $1M per mile, hire between 50 to 100 new employees AND use eminent domain to take backyards of residents who thought they owned “their” land.

  4. Naples, FL – an army of assholes in their 40s, 50s & 60s, fat in lycra bike shorts and form fitting tour de france tops riding in the worst traffic. The best part is these arrogant jack wads lock their feet into the pedals. They desrve everything they get.

  6. I suspect under a bernie sanders’ socialist presidency all activities presently not registered and regulated by the state or federal government will require a license or permit. To include cyclists, bicycles, pedestrians, swimmers, pools, mowers, lawn tractors, leaf blowers, garden tillers, all sporting equipment and participants. etc. and etc.

    If it moves, produces or is enjoyable Tax it.

  7. Sure thing, govt must be involved to resolves these problems. How about forcing everyone to have their SSNs tattooed on their arms or foreheads? Or chip everybody like dogs and cats and other domesticated or farm animals.

  8. Plus, they ignore stop signs, run red lights and ride the gap between cars and the curb. Add all that to a lack of lights or reflectors when riding in the dark and you serve up a real stew of arrogant stupidity.

  9. Doncha love how all Stop signs are strictly optional for these arrogant putzes? The law-abiding car drivers have to dodge these assholes to keep from hitting them. Oh yeah, they’re out for the excercise, but can’t stop cuz starting back up is just sooo haaard!
    Awwwww… poor baby!

  12. There are already laws on the books that make all these things illegal. Making more laws won’t make any difference. Fur, you sound like the gun control freaks. “I don’t like bikes/guns, the government needs to do something!!!”.

  14. Idiots I live with in CA passed a law that makes it illegal to drive within 3 feet of a bicyclist. The “share the road” signs have been replaced with “3 feet, it’s the law” signs. They all ride with GoPro on my country road looking for a lawsuit.

  18. If they want to be on the road why aren’t they forced to get a license plate – register, pay a fee, display a tag?! Maybe that will solve their road / gas tax issue. A lot of these bikes now are electric too so aren’t they a motor vehicle?! In CO we are forced to share the road and are not supposed to come within some ridiculous amount of space (10+ feet). Comical, how can you possibly do that on a 2 lane highway when the bikers insist on riding in the middle of one lane?!

  19. I both drive a car and ride a bicycle. I have no problem with bicycles in crosswalks or on sidewalks in either role. In fact, here in Florida, it is my legal responsibility to handle that because the applicable statute says that all those on the sidewalk or in a crosswalk moving under muscle power alone have the same rights and responsibilities. That means pedestrians, skateboarders, inline skaters, bicyclists, double amputees pushing themselves along on their little platforms, schizophrenics intently chatting with the voices in their heads and ignoring the real world, everybody. But not Segways, thank goodness.

    So, to answer your question, you are supposed to account for that by paying adequate attention.

  20. Many years ago (and I do mean many, more’s the pity 🙂 ) I remember that we used to have to get a license for a bike, Looked just like a car license only quite a bit smaller and you had to either attach it the hub on the back or front wheel or hang it on the back of your seat. It may have done little to solve any bike problems but it did make the rider aware of their responsibilities. Sometime later (not sure when) they dropped the need for a license. There are plenty of laws on the books concerning the responsibilities of a bike rider and most will abide by them (the biggest unwritten one is common sense) but there are a disappointingly large number that won’t and somehow think they are invulnerable or that the pedestrians they hit won’t get hurt.

  21. I remember back when I was a kid in L.A. we had to go to the police station to register our bikes. Don’t recall if that was for everyone or just for the kids who rode their bikes to school. But they would give us a decal sticker that would go on the frame, usually under the seat post. And there was a fee for that.

    Also remember 2 LAPD motorcycle cops giving me a ticket for riding my bike with the direction of traffic instead of against it. Pricks. I was just a kid and not interfering with traffic at all.

  22. Once you’ve had the experience of riding responsibly along in the bike lane and having a speeding dump truck blast past you so close that his mirror brushes your sleeve, your appreciation for that three-foot clearance might rise a bit.

  23. I’ll bet that was when the LAPD was actually a police force charged with protecting the public and putting bad guys away and whose members were by and large, motivated to protect and serve rather then the paycheck and pension. I’d bet some cash money (it’s Canadian though, down a few more cents now that the boy king has been elected) that you didn’t ride against traffic again.

  26. No, that’s not what I said, Dickweed.
    Cars, by law, have to be identifiable when on the road. Why do bicycles, who share the road, cause accidents, get into accidents, hit people, etc. get to ride away into the sunset with people scratching their heads wondering who the frig the asshole was?

    IF cars have to be identifiable, then bikes should be too.

    IF you want to remove identifications for cars FINE.

    Trying to turn me into some big government progressive will not go well for you in any argument Dickweed.
    And that goes for the 3 morons who thumbed you up, as well.

  29. And that’s exactly the point of my posting.
    Bicyclists want the gravitas associated with being a road vehicle, except for all of the things that actually give road vehicles gravitas.

    I want the name of the asshole faggot biker that slammed my car door into my head and then peddled away like that faggot he was.

    Either put a license on his bike, or take mine off so when I run his faggot ass over no one will know who I am.

  30. If you want not to be confused with a big-govt progressive then you might consider not calling on govt to solve your problems for you.

    Passing legislation to require license plates for bicycles will have the immediate effect of making previously innocent and law-abiding people criminals if they don’t comply. I, for one, have about had it with this kind of death by 1,000 cuts, that death being my liberty to act as I please as long as I refrain from threatening or injuring others or stealing that which does not belong to me.

    So, if you have a problem with public anonymity for bicyclists, why not pedestrians? One could step in front of your car and really mess it up badly before succumbing to extensive trauma. And that’s not trivializing your position: where do you draw the line? Are skateboarders OK? How about fat geezers on their Medicare carts?

  31. “Cars, by law, have to be identifiable when on the road. Why do bicycles, who share the road, cause accidents, get into accidents, hit people, etc. get to ride away into the sunset with people scratching their heads wondering who the frig the asshole was?”

    ^^^ That was his point.

    Anyway- This is a about the road. Not the crosswalks. If a bicyclist is on the road with cars, he wants to be treated as a car, he has to comply as a car driver would.

    Also, If a city has laws about bicyclists being treated as an auto, then they need to be licensed. Under any circumstance, no one should look the other way when a bicyclist acts like an asshole. They don’t do that favor for motorcyclists or automobile drivers.

  32. It’s like with feminists. They want to be treated like MEN, DAMMIT!
    And then when they need a door opened, a spider killed, someone makes them work equal hours as the men, tell them to lift 125lbs at work, or have an ex-boyfriend shot and a man won’t do it for her, she gets pissed off. 😀

  34. Yeah, we’re all cracking jokes and stuff here. You know how that goes. And obviously, you know no one is asking for all of what you’re saying.

    Bottom line: If you want to be treated (or demand to be treated) with the same respect as a car, you have to be treated as a vehicle and follow the same rules of the road.

    Other wise…If the there are no rules on the road, then I should get to drive a car or ride a motorcycle on the sidewalk, unlicensed.

  35. I saw his point. You missed mine: he’s asking for an expansion of govt control. It makes no difference to me that the govt already exercises similar control over most cars.

    There are exceptions to the license plate requirement. In many states a new car right off the dealer lot does not need a tag, not even a paper tag. Also, some agricultural states allow you to designate a “farm vehicle” and although its primary use has to be on the farm, it is OK to drive produce, for example, to market.

  36. You called me Dickweed. Hahahahahaha! I never heard that one before. You’re hilarious. Bicycles who share the road are not “allowed to cause accidents, hit people, etc. and get to ride away into the sunset”. It’s already against the law to do that. Putting a tiny license plate or a sticker on the bike isn’t going to make it any easier to find the asshole who hit you. All it will do is cost me more money to ride my bike. It’s like the morons who want to put a microstamp on the firing pin of every gun in the country. It’s an inane argument based on pure emotion and in the end it makes liberals feel good that it’s harder to own a gun. Admit it. You would feel better if it were more difficult for bicyclists to ride their bike on the road. I get what you are saying. It’s not fair bikes get to use the road without a license plate and I can’t drive a car without one. What’s next, license for pedestrians? Life is not always fair. More regulation, more fees and taxes don’t make it more fair. And listening to a conservative say it does, makes my head explode.
    p.s. Name calling does not help your argument (unless you’re a liberal).

  37. Yeah yeah, that’s what fur wants. Full on gubmint control. Because that’s what this whole site represents. The need for big gov.
    have mercy. Really?

    He’s not the only one who complains about bicyclists. And he’s also the only one who has complained about cars. You’re only upset because you think he’s lumping you in with the bicyclists who cause problems on the road.

    Actually, a license would make it easier for someone to find you. (If you’re registered with the DMV has your home address, no?) And pedestrians aren’t allowed to walk in the road so why license them?

    BTW- there is already government interference when they decided to carve up lanes for bicycles, no? You were okay with that, no?

    Oh and I assumed you chose Richard Weed as a clever replacement for “Dick Weed.” So you if you’ve heard Dick Weed before , you must not mind it THAT much, right? LOL

    No one’s trying to knock you off your bike, on sidewalks, and not even on the road if, IF, there’s space for you to safely ride.

    If you want all the rights of a car driver, no holds barred, you need to be treated that same way. Or cars get to become unregistered. You want special favors now? Like a liberal? (see the liberal accusation works for everyone.)

  39. You mean your name is ACTUALLY Richard Weed?
    My condolences.

    You are missing my point entirely.
    Bikes are increasingly supplanting the areas once designated for “licensed” motorists with “registered” vehicles. (Whether cars should require registrations or whether motorists should require licenses is an entirely different argument. Don’t conflate the two.)
    Progressive politicians are increasingly pushing for pedal power over carbon. Bikes are applauded as the green and smart alternative to evil cars. Bikes are being dovetailed into the flow of MOVING TRAFFIC whether carbon motorists like it or not.

    Pedestrians are on the sidewalk and go on roads only when they walk in front of STOPPED AUTOMOBILES perpendicularly. See the difference? No need to license pedestrians because they do not share the road while the wheels go round and round.

    We’ve made that arrangement as a civil society. Or maybe the red lights and stop signs are PART OF THE PROGRESSIVE PLAN TO CONTROL ME????

    Now, back to the point about licenses.
    The woman in the original story was rear-ended by a bike (a bike that legally shares the road with a vehicle that must be identifiable by law – if you want to get rid of car licenses GREAT – different argument) and it frigged up her car.
    The asshole ran away because he knew he couldn’t be identified.
    If you’re going to merge into the flow of automobiles, like a grownup, maybe you should do what all the grownups have to do – be identifiable.

    Now, you talk about the costs of a license.
    Let’s waive the fees for bicyclists.
    Now what’s your gripe?
    Too tough to get down to the DMV and get your ID?
    You sound like a whiny progressive when they argue about voter ID
    😉

  40. BTW- there is already government interference when they decided to carve up lanes for bicycles, no? You were okay with that, no?>>>

    Budda friggin bing.
    The conservative biker is very happy with every government initiative progressives make on their behalf, but I’m the progressive!!!!

    Laugh out friggin Loud.

    Hey Buddy, let’s get rid of that white line “the government” laid down on the road, the one that says ‘bike lane,’ paid for BY ME against my wishes? Okay?
    No government interference.

  41. Barney, I’ve told this story before, but since you brought it up. Right after that law passed I’m stopped at a stop light on a narrow road out of my place and some asshole biker rolls up right next to me HANGING on my passenger side mirror on my Duramax. I roll down the passenger window and yell “Three Feet Assholr”. He yells back “That’s on you asshole”. Now I’m pissed. I yell”I was here first dick” and climb out. Gone. The direction from which he came.

  42. That line and the three foot clearance is government interference and is paid for through confiscatory taxes, but you’re suddenly cool with that.
    Interesting.
    Wouldn’t anarchy on the road be far superior? Self rule?
    And if the dump truck violates your safe space do you want the po-po to hand out tickets?

    Interesting.

  46. @BFH If you make the cost of the license free will you also make the cost of the ticket you get for not having a license free too? Then I’m all in. I’m not calling you a progressive. I’m saying you making your argument on this subject like a progressive which is surprising to me. You’re usually much better than this. Your emotions are clouding your judgment here. Thank you for your condolence. @MJA I’m not ok with bike lanes. They are a waste of money and waste a perfectly good lane for vehicles. They are not needed. I can honestly say I have never ridden my bike in one. In fact I never ride where they exist, usually in the city. I avoid the cities like the plague. And yes people are trying to kill me when I’m following the rules of the road. I have been “dusted off the road” many times.

  47. @BFH If you make the cost of the license free will you also make the cost of the ticket you get for not having a license free too? Then I’m all in.>>

    And the cost of the ticket for a car riding in the bike lane will be free too, right? Okay, deal!

    By all means, everything will be free for the courageous anti-government bike riders that accept all taxes being raised to cover the costs of your bike lanes.
    Give me a friggin break.

    Yes, I am for lower taxes, fewer regulations, smaller government. But public roads are a necessity that are paid for through taxes. It’s one of the few things I DON’T COMPLAIN ABOUT. It’s one of the things I am happy to pay for with my taxes.

    When you peddle your ass on a road that has been made smaller and more miserable for automobiles, you should give me some of my money back.

    And let’s do it through something that makes sense, like me having the right to identify a bicyclist who I am supposedly sharing all of the rules of the road with.
    When you do something as stupid as any other vehicle and cause an accident, I want YOU to be held responsible. You should be sued, just like anyone else.

    Everyone else is identifiable, but suddenly you’re going to hide behind “I want smaller government” and use it as a weapon in order to have special privileges, for what, maybe 25 dollars a year?
    Ya, you’re a tax warrior.
    Naaaa. Not buying it.

    Bikers are the useful idiots for intrusive government. The writing is on the… bike lane. Cars are being demonized while bikes are being glorified. You’re aiding the progressives when you think you’re standing nobly on the side of smaller government. But you’re wrong this time.
    You can’t see that?

    You should be protesting the bike lanes like me by demanding bikes adhere to ALL of the requirements of a vehicle, instead you’re arguing with me calling me the progressive because I want the bikers punished through the only way we can fight it, utilizing the progressives own trick against them – deterring behavior by making it less desirable.

    You’ll have us all on Citi-bikes in no time.

    One last thing. You’re riding your bike in an area that is not like, say, Portland, where it is becoming a nightmare for people who have cars. They are down to one lane in an area that had 3. And the government’s plan is not to expand roads to alleviate the traffic for cars, their plan is for the roads to be adequate because they don’t plan on having people driving much longer.

    You can keep saying that making you pay for a license is an assault on your small government instincts, but you’re cutting off your nose to spite your face.
    You’re the one acting emotional. I’m using my head.

    You’ll have one the tiny small government battle and lost the car war.

  48. The Stranger-

    I. The car-driving class must pay its own way!

    For cars we have paved our forests, spanned our lakes, and burrowed under our cities. Yet drivers throw tantrums at the painting of a mere bicycle lane on the street. They balk at the mere suggestion of hiking a car-tab fee, raising the gas tax, or tolling to help pay for their insatiable demands, even as downtrodden transit riders have seen fares rise 80 percent over four years.

    No more! We demand that car drivers pay their own way, bearing the full cost of the automobile-petroleum-industrial complex that has depleted our environment, strangled our cities, and drawn our nation into foreign wars. Reinstate the progressive motor vehicle excise tax, hike the gas tax, and toll every freeway, bridge, and neighborhood street until the true cost of driving lies as heavy and noxious as our smog-laden air. Our present system of hidden subsidies is the opiate of the car-driving masses; only when it is totally withdrawn will our road-building addiction finally be broken.

    II. All power to the people’s transit

    If Seattle is to become a people’s paradise, our buses, rail, streetcars, and ferries must stretch into every neighborhood, running reliably, affordably, and at all hours of the day and night. Since mass transit serves the masses, the mass of our transportation dollars must hereafter be spent to meet its needs.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Need I post more?
    By all means, let’s not “expand government” by punishing the bike rider the exact same way as the “carbon riders.”

    You’re going to lose this war by protecting the progressive agenda by saying punishing the bikers is “progressive.”
    Stupid argument.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    We make these demands because, unfortunately, we must. Our epoch, the epoch of the car, possesses this distinct feature: It has created a simplified antagonism. Seattle as a whole is now more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly fighting each other—car driver and nondriver.

    This antagonism traces directly to the creation of the modern car driver, a privileged individual who, as noted, is the beneficiary of a long course of subsidies, tax incentives, and wars for cheap oil. But the same subsidies that created this creature (who now rages about the roads while simultaneously screaming of being a victim in some war) can—and must, beginning now—be used to build bike lanes, sidewalks, light rail, and other benefits to the nondriving classes.

  49. The Stranger –
    Wallingford resident Doug stepped outside his home on August 26 to discover that city transportation workers had painted a giant bicycle on his street. “I now live on a giant bike path,” he said. “We are winning the War on Cars!”

    Indeed, between 2000 and 2009, car use declined in Seattle by 7.7 percent, according to the American Community Survey. During this same period, transit use increased 10.9 percent, biking increased an astounding 59 percent, and walking increased 4.4 percent. US Census data shows that in 2009, nearly 40 percent of Seattle’s population walked, biked, bused, or carpooled to work. That number is only going to increase as the city becomes easier to navigate without a car.

    For instance, voters approved a funding package in 2008 to extend light rail north to Northgate and east to Redmond. Two years prior, Seattle voters passed the nine-year, $365 million Bridging the Gap levy, applying a parking-lot tax that funds transportation maintenance and improvements. Since then, the Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT) has added roughly 180 miles of bike lanes to city streets and a series of green “bike boxes” that give cyclists right-of-way at signaled intersections. In 2009 alone, SDOT added 26 blocks of new sidewalk to city streets, 40 new “countdown” crosswalk signals, and repainted more than 800 crosswalks. In the last few years, several road diets have eliminated vehicle lanes and replaced them with bicycle thoroughfares on 125th Avenue Northeast, Stone Way North, and other streets around the city—despite the protests of petulant neighbors who bray as if their freedom were under siege. Meanwhile, a First Hill streetcar connecting the International District to Capitol Hill is set to begin its circuit in 2013.

    All the while, gas prices are rising and parking rates costs are increasing. The carless commuters see victory on the horizon.

    !!!!!!!!

    Creating the forever alone, no need for a car, no need to travel, no need for a seat for kids because I’m a young gay fag anyway, society.

  50. I think LAPD has always been corrupt. They were real bad in the early 20th century. Not so bad when I was a kid, it started getter worse again around the time they arrested the Manson family. Then they started beating people to death, saying they hit their head while entering the police car or some other bullshit, making threats against pregnant women, beating the shit out of even kids and young girls.
    No, I would never say that LAPD was motivated to protect and serve at any time that I lived out there after the Manson murders. They killed a good friend’s cousin, and nearly beat me to death. Same thing with a lot of people I knew out there. But don’t get me wrong, I love good cops – and very few LAPD cops that I had dealings with ever fit that term, I can think of two – one of them was married to my best friend’s sister. I still have his old LAPD jacket that he gave me when he quit the force. He quit because of the corruption. We used to go shoot jackrabbits out in the Mojave. Good times.

    And I still rode which ever direction I wanted to, but the ticked was for Not facing traffic. It may have only been a short-term law some asshole cop made up, I don’t think they enforced that one for very long. They did have ticket quotas to make back then too.

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