President Trump sparks clearing-versus-climate debate as California wildfires tops grisly milestone

WaTimes: The California wildfire disaster marked Monday a deadly milestone as frustrated calls for more aggressive forest management — led by President Trump — met with climate-change pushback from Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown.

After Mr. Trump blasted the “gross mismanagement of the forests,” prompting an outcry on the left, Mr. Brown swung back by blaming climate skeptics and calling state’s dry, warm conditions “the new abnormal.”

“We have to all do more,” Mr. Brown said at a Sunday press conference. “But managing all the forests everywhere we can, does not stop climate change. And those who deny that are definitely contributing to the tragedies that we’re now witnessing, and will continue to witness, in the coming years.”

Despite the back-and-forth, Mr. Trump approved Monday night an expedited request for a major disaster declaration, saying on Twitter that he “wanted to respond quickly in order to alleviate some of the incredible suffering going on.”

The Camp Fire that razed the town of Paradise in the Sierra Nevada foothills had torched 6,400 homes as of Monday and resulted in the deaths of 42 people, becoming the deadliest in the state’s history and passing the grisly record of 29 deaths set by the 1933 Griffith Park Fire.  more here

14 Comments on President Trump sparks clearing-versus-climate debate as California wildfires tops grisly milestone

  1. Someone should pay for not warning those who lost their homes that climate change had put their dwellings more at risk. I mean if it’s really a factor and officials in CA knew about it, then they shouldn’t have let people live in these at risk areas or they should have put regulations in place requiring less flammable building materials and proper upkeep of the grounds.

    I wonder if some homeowner will sue the state? Somebody should and make them live by their own words.

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  2. It’s not global warming – bunch of BS. I’m in the midst of this fire, it just 6 miles north of me. Hoping the firefighters hold it back. Lots of evacuees here – faces look bewildered, tired, and scared. Friends have lost their homes and jobs. There’s no infrastructure left in Paradise. So what if the police/fire/city hall are still standing, there’s no people for them to service. The tax base for Paradise–Butte County is gone. Can anyone say bankrupt? I don’t want to hear any bullshit about global warming caused it. It’s the cost of living where we live. Get in line and take your chances. For now, I have a house, hundreds don’t.

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  3. A clearly recognized danger
    of fallen dead trees fueling firestorms vs.futile BS climate hallucinations that result in huge losses in life and property.
    Moonbeam will waste billions
    as his people burn.

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  4. Stupid freaken argument by stupid freaken libs. Fine, Global warming is real. Now go undercut and clear our timber so there’s less fuel and fewer fires. There’s no logic to their argument.

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  5. This afternoon I had a conversation with a retired BLM geologist and forest manager. He agreed that it was the abundance of undergrowth and deadfalls that fueled the fires and said the cost to remove it was astronomical in terms of man-hours so they really can’t do anything about it. The only cost-effective action they could take was to create a buffer between the forest and towns.

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  6. Thank you all for your concerns – I am just as concerned. When I look out my kitchen window and see flames shooting up over the ridge, I’m waiting for the Sheriff to come by and tell us to evacuate. Some already have, but we’ll stay until we’re forced to leave. We are packed and ready to go. We won’t be caught like the others were that’s for sure. The firefighters are doing a tremendous job, all personnel helping with this fire are doing great despite that fire fighters and police/sheriffs have lost their homes. The tax base for Paradise is gone. What good is a Taco Bell that’s been spared when there’s no one around to eat there. My friends lost their Chinese restaurant and their newly built home. It’s just all so sad.

    If we lose our home, we’re leaving California. Some that I have talked to who have lost their homes, are leaving with their insurance money. They all said it was a good time to leave California.

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  7. Hey gladys,
    your question is:
    Why is global warming only targeting California?
    the answer is:
    Because the world revolves around california in lil jarjar browns head. and gagin newscum is just another name for justin trudeau.

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  8. Denying use of Federal lands means that roads to move timber won’t be built.
    They provide access to remote areas that help in fire operations. So allow use of federal lands
    We need chaparral management that reduces brush and timber in fire-probable areas.
    Immigrants want to work?
    There is some work right there
    Bring back the CCC

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