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Bill Nye vs Ken Ham Evolution Debate: Insecure Atheists Calling For Bill Nye To Cancel — Scheduled February 4th

Friday, 3 January 2014, 22:54 BFH Home 0

I’ve started watching a video of Ham at this link and it’s pretty damn interesting.

28 Comments on Bill Nye vs Ken Ham Evolution Debate: Insecure Atheists Calling For Bill Nye To Cancel — Scheduled February 4th

  1. Thanks furhat. My collage professor sister hit me with Ham back in the mid 90’s; it actually made me mad. I felt like she was insulting my intelligence, and I was going to use science to prove her wrong — wrong! She used science to prove me wrong.

    I found out that I was as dumb as those collage biology teachers in the video.

    Bill Nye is about understand that himself.

  3. Hahaha! My sister introduced me to Ken Ham’s videos. I find his logic refreshing. Not that I believe everything he says, but how can you continue to blather nonsense when he shows you just why you are wrong!?

  5. I went to a lecture by a guy from the Institute for Creation Research the bunch at PandasThumb so dismissively refer to. I found the guy an unconvincing and arrogant jerk. Which puts him one up on the clowns at PandasThumb who come off as a bunch of screaming little girls running in panicked circles with their dresses over their heads formulating desperate plans to stop one of their own from embarrassing himself by debating – an unconvincing and arrogant jerk.

  6. Ham is neither unconvincing, or is he an arrogant jerk. Getting mad when you can’t dismiss his logic is a typical reaction.

    You had better leave it there. I learned the hard way that the more you start pealing through the science books to prove your point, the more aggravated you are going to become.

  9. Listened to Ken Ham many times on NRB over the years. Subscribe to the AIG magazine and have some of the videos. Ken is not the most scientifically technical person his organization could put up, but he is wholly adequate to trounce My. Nye.

    I wish I could go see the debate. All depends on your “glasses” that you see the world thru.

  11. For those not familiar with Ham, “Genesis: The Key to Reclaiming the Culture” is a good place to start. It’s not so much the specifics of the Evo/Creation debate, though some of that is there, but rather the importance of one’s acceptance – or rejection – of a literal, historical view of Genesis as it relates to the issues discussed here each day.

  12. Ken Ham is personable, articulate, charming, has a razor wit, and his foundation is bedrock and Bible based. He will make Nye look like a fool.

    Nye has made his name and career brainwashing children. Ken Ham is not a child, and I suspect, like most arrogant lefties, he will be stunned and angered when someone presents hard questions he cannot answer.

    The atheists are right to be afraid. They, as always, will be reduced to name calling as their only defense against Ham’s superior logic and rational thought.

  13. The one problem I have with Ham is that I do not believe Genesis to be literally true.
    With all due respect, the story of Noah’s Ark, as a literal story, which is supposed to explain all the animals we have all over the world, does not add up.
    Sorry.

  16. I think it is easy to understand that all the animals we see today came from the animals on the ark. Only the birds and land animals had to be on. The sea creatures stayed in the water.

    The bigger hurdle is did Adam walk with the dinosaurs?

    One possible explanation of a world wide flood.(9m)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO16pjS5DNk

    The flood was God’s judgement. He created us and he makes the rules.

  17. Dinosaurs are always found under layers of sediment, as if a giant rushing wall of water had something to do with it.

    I’ve never heard of dinosaur being discovered covered in dust.

  19. IMO, regardless of whether one believes the bible literally in all cases or no it is abundantly clear on examination that evolution involving random mutation and natural selection is complete BS. It’s pushed hard to the youth in schools as unquestionable truth as we all know, myself included. But, having a heavy engineering slant, what did it for me over the years was mostly the idea of irreducible complexity. For example- the common bacterial flagellum has.. .. a dad-gum inboard proton exchange MOTOR embedded in it’s backside. And that ROTATING motor drives a prop shaft through a bearing or bushing structure in it’s hinder section. That’s how it moves around. Flippin’ incredible, I tell ya! So how could any of the individual motor components (rotor, stator, bearing, ..) “evolve” over time and and be naturally selected on their own? Because the components are ~ worthless without the other pieces and all carefully assembled together. The obvious answer is, they did not.

    Along with a much deeper appreciation of the astounding miracle of life to begin with as I age. And appreciation of incredibly complex individual organs like say, an eye and the ability to process that and see. Much less the ability to create new life from union of man + woman. Simply astounding..

  21. Fur; Ham spoke at our church and we were thoroughly impressed with his grasp of science, which was much more comprehensive than Mr. Nye’s simplistic sop, directed at 3rd graders.

    He put up The Bible against scientific theory and surprisingly, The Book’s explanations took less faith than some of the fantastical imaginings of scientists.

    Ham also related many facts that modern science has proven, yet completely ignore because they support the biblical narrative more than their hair brained theories.

    Pure science today hardly exists (AGW, anyone) because they use the Progressive tactic of determining the desired outcome (no God), then manipulating the data to reach it.

    There is a growing minority of scientists who are coming around to the conclusion that intelligent design is present in almost everything in the universe, especially since the human genome project in which the billions of combinations of human DNA CANNOT have “evolved” by chance or at random. It’s so statistically immeasurable as to be utterly impossible.

    It’s a start.

  22. There is a lot of clear evidence out there that very plainly can prove wrong the theory of Evolution as Origin of Species. Ham isn’t the first.

    Also a lot of evidence indicating a global flood, and a lot of evidence that shows the carbon dating rationale is circular reasoning and thus meaningless.

    Also claiming that Christians don’t believe in Evolution is a straw man argument. Evolution happens, any thinking Christian should agree with that. (unfortunately there are a lot of unthinking Christians)

    Evolution as origin of species is quite frankly impossible. The entropy law (no free lunch) is one example of that. You set off a bomb in a junk yard and a 747 doesn’t come out of it. Chaos rules.

  23. Darmin’s Black Box is a very good read- refutes evolution quite effectively in very specific scientific detail. Technical but still readable for the average person.

    BFH – I and many others agree that much of what is in the Bible has meaning other than the obvious. Genesis is not meant to be a complete and detailed accounting of the origon of man and the universe, but it was sufficient for people at the time. I find it amazing though, that the “big bang” does sound a lot like the outline account in Genesis! The flood story likewise, may be useful for teaching, but open to interpretation.

  26. What we call ‘evolution’ is a messy jumbled mountainous conflation of vastly different theories, large and small. Every farmer or outdoorsman can recognize gradual individual adaptation and selection which becomes species adaptation (if allowed sufficient generations). That’s really Darwin’s one valid point, although it had already been recognized and practiced ever since cavemen tamed wolves and oher animals and bred them into forms better to our liking.
    Intelligent Design is all around us and i can’t see how any honest observer with IQ above room temp can really dismiss it. Even if you consider the entire JudaeoChristian Bible just a manmade anthology of parables and metaphors, Intelligent Design remains self-evident and indisputable. That there is some Higher Power beyond our conception seems a no-brainer.
    Atheists–so many of whom seem angry, bitterly intolerant and in need of some alternative system of absolute Truth to cling to– are reduced to creating and debating straw men caricatures (“sky fairies”, parodies of Zeus or some other cloud-throned patriarch, and finally flying pasta monsters).
    I’m content with Genesis as an overview with parables, not an astrophysics textbook. Whether the planet is 4,000 or 4,000,000,000,000 years old is irrelevant, as are cubits and trying to count up generations from Adam to Jesus.
    Nye can easily laugh off Zeus and dinosaurs with saddles, but no one can seriously dispute Intelligent Design involving power and purpose beyond anything we hairy apes can begin to comprehend, much less critique.

  28. I’ve seen the film Ham mentions in the beginning of his lecture, “God Versus Evolution”, and it is painfully embarrassing to listen to the so-called professors and the students of science who are interviewed in it.

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