Brush & Nib, a calligraphy studio in Phoenix, has sued the city to challenge its LBGT non-discrimination law.
The two Christian women take issue with being forced to do work for someone they disagree with, in this case a gay couple demanding they do the lettering on wedding invitations.
If the courts won’t recognize their right to refuse service based on religious belief, perhaps they will recognize the free expression right of artist to only work those they want to.
So far no gay couple has come to them for services, but the owners don’t want to take the chance and face a possible 6 month jail sentence and $2,500 per day fine for every day they refuse to comply.
Won’t the suit be thrown out due to lack of standing by the calligraphers? That seems to be the stupid pet trick the govt uses to make this pesky stuff go away.
@Thirdtwin I think that would be for an actual complaint, they are suing the city because the new law is violates their rights.
It’s unconstitutional if we still have the right to free religion and free expression.
Why dont teh ghey ask Muslim companies to do these things?
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Thanks Doc. I wish them success in their effort.
I wish them success, too, and am grateful for their efforts.
However, as a rule you cannot bring suit unless you have been damaged as defined by court precedents. I don’t think these good people have been so damaged…yet.
Mr Hanoverfist,
I think the only calligraphic writing I’ve ever seen coming from a quoranimal was the Quoran. I don’t think Teh Gheys want to go there.
Dr. Tar, and right to free association.
Welcome to the leftist world of slavery–being forced to provide your labor for another against your will is pretty much the definition of slavery. The Democrats wanted to keep it back in the days of the civil war, and they’ve finally found a way to bring it back.
Creative business are very different than ‘off the rack’ businesses when it comes to discrimination. The civil rights activists at the Woolworth lunch counter weren’t asking for a special African-American meal to be served to them; they were insisting on the right to order a standard burger and soda. Gays can buy ready made cakes and invitations just like straights but when they (or anyone) wants custom work, they are employing or commissioning an artist or business to create something under their direction. If we, as creative workers or businesses, cannot decline employment or commissions, we are indentured servants to anyone with the ability to pay for our time and talent. Plenty of artists turn down commissions they find offensive, tacky, uninteresting, etc. but most normal patrons simply move on and find an artist interested in the project.
“”One Community, an Arizona LGBT advocacy group, called the lawsuit “baseless” and said no one should force their beliefs on anyone else.””
So it’s OK for the LBGT to force their beliefs on everybody? sheesh!
Post a sign out front: “We Reserve the Right to Refuse Any Customer For Any, or No, Reason. (if you don’t like it, go elsewhere)”
The implied “Labor Contract” is such that one sells his labor for a given purpose, for a given period, or for a given product, for a fee, agreeable to both.
No agreement – no contract.
PERIOD.
The FedGov has adopted the National Socialist opinion of that implied “Labor Contract” to mean that the State is the sole arbiter of all labor. Thus, the “minimum” wage and all this other bullshit.
We need to wake the Fuck Up!
izlamo delenda est …
All gay writings will be in diarrhea and pee.
These ordinances carve out a special exception for the LGBT community that exist for no one else.
Just claim the magic moniker of LGBT and watch anyone in the wedding industry bow down to your demands or face state repression.
It’s just wrong to use the power of the state to force innocent people to do labor they don’t want to do. Period.
@Zonga — Just copied that same comment but you beat me to it!
Yep. The LGBT group says no one should force their views on anyone else, unless it’s the LGBT group.
AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!
Gay people are absolutely brilliant at social networking. Rather than harass some poor baker or other wedding vendor to do your cake, calligraphy, catering, etc., why can’t they just call around and see if anyone can recommend a gay-friendly vendor?
No, because social activism.