James and Jennifer Crumbley found in basement of Detroit building after hours of searching – IOTW Report

James and Jennifer Crumbley found in basement of Detroit building after hours of searching

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James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of accused Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were arrested early Saturday in Detroit after hours of searching.

The Crumbleys were charged with four counts each of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the high school shooting Tuesday. Their son, Ethan Crumbley, 15, is accused of killing four students with a gun his father purchased four days prior.

A team of authorities, including Detroit police and the U.S. Marshals, had been looking for the Crumbleys in an area just northeast of Downtown Detroit after their vehicle was found on Bellevue Street on Friday night.

According to police, the Crumbleys were in the basement of the building where their vehicle was found just before 2 a.m. Saturday.

The Oakland County Prosecutor announced the charges against the Crumbleys during a press conference just after noon on Friday. After that, the Crumbleys were supposed to turn themselves into authorities. However, they hadn’t turned themselves in, and the search began.

Sources said the couple was last spotted around 2-3 p.m. Friday near Rochester Hills. According to sources, the couple allegedly withdrew $4,000 from a bank.

Just after 4 p.m. Friday, the attorneys for James and Jennifer Crumbley, Shannon Smith and Mariell Lehman, said the couple had left the area for their safety after the shooting and were coming back for their arraignment

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34 Comments on James and Jennifer Crumbley found in basement of Detroit building after hours of searching

  1. The parents, the kid, and the fucking school system and local reps are made up of total fucking idiots.
    Dozens of assholes belong in jail.
    Reminds me of the punk who blew his mothers face off and then killed the children in the North East.
    This whole thing stinks to high heaven…

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  2. Today’s schools are loaded with cameras, snitches, woke teachers and radical power mad administrators.
    The school knows everything that’s going on, but always refuses to take action against bullying. It’s like a right of passage, the really cool kids, ignore the normal kids and bully the weak. Today, sadly, the bullies can continue after hours on our less than worthless social media.
    Today the schools have added CRT to the mix and are teaching white kids that they are worthless and hateful slave owners. They are teaching black kids, that it’s ok to hate and punish whitey. Parents appear to be fighting back and they are ending up on federal terrorist watch lists.
    I hope some good lawyers go after the school systems deep pockets and put some of the blame on the heads of school system employees for doing nothing to stop this insanity. I’m actually surprised that more shootings are not taking place in the indoctrination centers.
    Home school your kids.

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  3. Maybe these 2 should really have the last name of Crummy, they certainly did a crummy job of raising their son. Do they have any other kids? And that guy looks like a criminal/bad guy in the old Dick Tracy comic strip by Chester Gould. Maybe he could be called the Weasel or Ferret Face. And no one wears rectangular glasses anymore.

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  4. Too many unanswered questions at this moment, for me. Very strange.

    “And no one wears rectangular glasses anymore.”

    (Wearing rectangular readers to read this…) Damn, I’m always late to the fashion party. Shrug.

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  5. The school found the note but did not make the kid leave and did not notify the police. The police dept is not happy with the school.
    The newly elected prosecutor is making up laws on her own. Dershowitz was talking about this last night.
    Yes, the parents should have kept the gun secure. Yes, they too should have made the kid leave school. But, as Dershowitz points out, there are no laws against being stupid.

    Charging parents for the actions of their kids is a dangerous and foolsh road to go down.
    This new prosecutor is trying to make a name for herself.
    Watch the video of her announcing the charges against the parents. When she begins her announcement it looks like she’s suppressing a smile.
    If she’s going to charge the parents she needs to also bring charges against the school. But as I pointed out, she’s making up laws that don’t exist.

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  6. @Deplorable, like the parents who think it’s cute when their little angels are running like screaming banshees in public and think you should think it’s cute too?
    Ya. Discipline needs to be back in fashion. Hasn’t been since the mid 80’s.

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  7. Beachmom FTW. If the parents are accountable, then every other person along the way that had some levers of control at their disposal that were unused are equally accountable. Their accusers would have had a yuge problem if either of these same parents up and whacked their kid across the face before the shooting took place. I’m not a fan of parents beating their children, but don’t constantly undermine parental discipline then wonder why the kid didn’t have any guardrails. What’s the point of having a father in the picture if his authority is a joke?

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  8. Gun owner here.

    NOVEMBER 26:

    Ethan’s father James purchased the 9 mm Sig Sauer SP 2022 for Ethan from Acme Shooting Goods in Oxford.

    His son was with him.

    NOVEMBER 27:

    Jennifer posted a message on social media that read: ‘Mom and son day testing out his new Xmas present.’

    NOVEMBER 29:

    Teacher saw Ethan Crumbley searching about ammunition on his cell phone during class, leading to a meeting with the student.

    His mother Jennifer was contacted about an ‘inappropriate internet search.’ The school followed up via email but received no response.

    NOVEMBER 29:

    That same day, Jennifer texted Ethan ‘lol I’m not mad at you, you have to learn not to get caught,’ Oakland County prosecutor Karen McDonald said.

    NOVEMBER 30:

    A teacher found a chilling note on Ethan’s desk that featured disturbing drawings depicting a gun, a bullet, blood everywhere, a shooting victim and a laughing emoji.

    The note included the words: ‘Thoughts won’t stop, help me’; ‘my life is useless’ and ‘the world is dead,’ McDonald said.

    Jennifer and James were immediately summoned to the school for a meeting.

    They failed to ask if their son had the gun with him or where it was, and they failed to inspect his backpack for the gun, which he did have with him, McDonald said.

    They left the school without Ethan.

    12:51 pm:

    Ethan allegedly shoots and kills four students

    1:22 pm:

    Jennifer texted Ethan ‘don’t do it.’

    The shooting had already taken place.

    1:37 pm:

    James called 911 to report the gun missing and said he thinks his son might have it.

    The parents should be charged as well. Change my mind.

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  9. Allow me to mitigate my statement:

    Criminal charges against parents shouldn’t happen but civil action should totally be on the ticket.

    (Probably didn’t think my statement through enough.) 🤦🏻‍♀️

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  10. @Rupert Smedley Hepplewhite

    My first firearm was bought for me when I was 6 (1956)
    since then I have acquired many more and none of them have been used to shoot up a school etc!
    No one charged my parents for giving me my first firearm at age 6!
    When you shove children into institutional settings and call it education when it is nothing more than a stockyard for kids, then problems arise and the Teachers Union hide it for profit!
    If someone wants to hurt or kill someone the tool doesn’t matter!

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  11. What psychiatric drugs was he taking? We know that almost all school shooters are on some type of often black boxed warning SSRI drug(s). Charge big pharma, oh yeah they are exempt from responsibility for everything.

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  12. Dadof4, haha, I wear rectangle glasses to drive. Got them last spring and the choices were all large glasses from the top of your forehead to the bottom of your nose! Ok, I exaggerate.

    When I complained about the nasty 70s looking choices, the technician brought out child’s sizes and said that they wouldn’t fit me. I picked out a pair I liked and they fit perfectly. The look on her face was priceless!

    Now, about this story. I have only followed it sparingly, but it sure confuses me why they are liable for their kid’s murder spree. I saw one story that the mother, when she found out what he planned, texted him, “Don’t do it.”

    I don’t know the whole story, but it seems to me if this charge sticks, there will be a lot of parent(s) in Chicago that should be mighty nervous!

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  13. Marooned, one of my pet English composition peeves.

    And to Claudia: “I don’t know the whole story, but it seems to me if this charge sticks, there will be a lot of parent(s) in Chicago that should be mighty nervous!” Only if they’re white.

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  14. My father bought his first gun when he was 13. A 22 cal bolt action rifle for $13 from Montgomery Wards.

    Times have definitely changed, but it’s the parenting that has changed for the worse. Too much “anything goes” lately.

    Claudia, the “don’t do it” is the door I want opened and explained first. It sounds like they knew of it ahead of time. The next question being if they were first supportive of it or a part of it.

    Running like they did looks like the work of a guilty conscience.

    Between the “don’t do it” and running, alone, they have some splainin’ to do.

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  15. Also Rupert the school employees are the ones who found the note and neither kicked him out or notified law enforcement.

    If parents are to blame for their kids’ decisions and behaviors, at what age does that end?
    At 15 you know right from wrong.
    This kid obviously has deep, deep mental and spiritual problems.
    If he couldn’t get a gun he would have found something else.

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  16. It’s not unreasonable to expect parents of minor age children to be charged as accessories of crime IF, they know a crime will be committed by their child and don’t try to prevent it. Definitely, think with the Crumbleys this is the situation.
    However, the mother’s lame “Don’t do it” might be enough to convince the prosecutor there was an attempt to stop a crime. Still, too little too late.

    Members of the Rotten Parents club should be held accountable. The lawsuits againt the Crumbleys by the families of their son’s victims may be sufficient.

    The parents did not manage their son’s life adequately in order to prevent him from becoming a menace.
    Besides being neglective parents – ignoring their son’s disturbing behavioral and mental issues, they seem to deny their responsibility for their minor-aged son killing four people.

    Being charged with a crime may not make a difference for parents like the Crumbleys. They seem indifferent to the pain they helped caused. The saddness they feel, typical of antisocial individuals, may be only for themselves and the consequences they face.

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