Connecticut Law Would Axe Fitness Requirements For Female Firefighters – IOTW Report

Connecticut Law Would Axe Fitness Requirements For Female Firefighters

If this keeps up, there will be a lot less female firefighters.
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12 Comments on Connecticut Law Would Axe Fitness Requirements For Female Firefighters

  1. Anytime some rogue state or city wants to bypass essentials, they’ll make some “law” allowing for it. Imagine some bimbo with no working sense trying to put out a fire or rescuing anyone.

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  2. The video showed a lot of fairly fit good looking female FFs. The testing course was ok, even though the female doing the testing probably didn’t pass. I wonder if in a couple of years they will return to show a few 300# sheboons waddling through the testing course? Nah, That’s raciss’, sexist and whatever other modern day complaint they can tack on. Happy to be retired from it all.

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  3. Not to worry…the city will just have to hire a few more men to cover for the females who can’t do the job. And the taxpayers will have to pick up the tab for the increased department budget. Oh, and all the early disability retirements of the females who get injured on the job, trying to do a job they were never suited for in the first place.

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  4. Here is the unvarnished unassailable truth; women in the workplace, the military, LE, and fire departments have only weakened productivity, competence, and effectiveness, and caused way more problems than they solved. there, I said it (thank God the wife is in the other room).

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  5. Tony R –
    ‘Oh, and all the early disability retirements of the females who get injured on the job’
    I had a petite little Auntie join the F.D. back in the 70’s… injured during training, still living quite nicely.

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  6. It could work. If you presuppose that fires can be talked out, argued out, maybe strategic placement of cold shoulders…

    This “enlightened” thinking is going to get people killed.

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  7. I served directly with four female members of my small department in my time, which started un the ’80s when it wasn’t that common. Chicks mostly didn’t want to do that job, and this wasn’t a big-city department with big pay and bennies and a massive bureaucracy to be advanced into.

    Two of the chicks were considerably smaller and lighter than my 6’1, 165 (at the time) frame, and most of the guys were bulkier than me. One was a Squad captain, an older lady unlikely to do any interior firefighting, but she still took active Squad shifts as one of a two-man crew and she was right in there at auto accidents and just outside the structure, ready to help lift you into a cot if needed, but unlikely to be physically able to do it singlehandedly. I know it’s sexist to say so, but chicks made the BEST Squad members, because females have natural empathy, can turn on motherly concern even if not mothers, and do have a generally more nurturing spirit than guys do as well as more patience and tolerance. Again keeping in mind the times, the closest thing I ever heard her say approaching woke or feminist themes was when she was giving an introductory sort of lecture to a new Squad class and, warning about how its necessary to put your hurt feels aside when people in pain are assholes, she recounted a story about how she and a young man went to a scene where the patient complained that “I call for help, and they send a woman and a boy”. She remebered it for a long time, but didn’t let it affect her patient care, which was the crux of the speech. I would also like to have one of the females around when dealing with certain problems with female patients. Trust me that people in pain are NOT sexy, but females are more honest about rape and pregnancy and wife beating things with women than they are with men, where men tend to let it all hang out (sometimes literally) regardless of the sex of their medic du jour.

    Another girl, God love her, earnestly wanted to fight fires, but was QUITE tiny. They had to use turnouts usually reserved for a Scout Explorer program just to get her trained while they had custom ones (including a mask for her air pack) made. She would get right in the hottest part of everything, but they were always careful to pair her with a bigger guy because anything bigger than a 1 3/4 nozzle would push her back just from the reaction force, she couldn’t put any weight behind ax swings because she didn’t HAVE any, and if they found somebody in the house she wasn’t going to be the one to carry them out. As Monty Python once said “it’s a simple question of weight ratios”. By the same token, she was not going to carry the aforementioned bigger guy with her out if it came up. Even then-skinny me in 60 pounds of air tank and soaked gear would be more than double her weight even BEFORE you get to her stature, so THAT wasn’t happening, either. She had a good heart and nothing bad happened on a fireground in my time with her, but like I said they DID have to be careful about how they assembled a hose crew around her just because of her size, although I suppose if a midget or dwarf man had applied, the same would be said of HIM.

    Another was a tall, strong, wiry, somewhat older gal (she was the mother of another firefighter on my department) who did the training and could do the job pretty much as well as any guy, but didn’t really have a taste for it for whatever reason and went squad only by choice.

    And then there was the 250 pound gal. She certainly didn’t have any problems with not having any weight to swing, but she DID have problems being in air at times. There were a couple of occasions when I was serving as Air Officer that I would sit her ass down and not give her a bottle until she quit looking hectic and breathing like a brass bull after coming out after her first bottle. Climbing around in flaming, collapsing structures CAN be stressful, but breathing compressed air could be stressful too and someone looked like they’d face-plant as soon as they pulled their mask straps up, they ain’t getting a new tank from ME. And she often did. Other than that, though, she pulled her weight.

    Which, as I said, was a LOT.

    …but one woman I remember WELL wasn’t even on my department, but a neighboring township that had a Mutual Aid pact with us, so I worked under her a time or two under the pact as she was a Fire Captain and a pretty hands-on one too.

    Maybe too much so.

    Years after I left the service she was still in, and one particular day she was on a 3 man pumper crew when an alarm dropped for a basement fire. Basement fires are the worst, you can’t see anything, stuff is weirdly stored and partitioning is inconsistent, usually only one way in, very difficult to ventilate, the rest of the house is over you, and the foundation holds heat like an oven as you battle past natural gas lines and tanks of hot water. She and a young guy made entry and worked to where the fire was.

    Then the building collapsed onto them. Neither survived.

    Here’s a report on this specific incident, if you like.

    ht tps://buildingsonfire.com/investigation-analysis-of-the-squirrels-nest-lane-firefighter-line-of-duty-deaths-colerain-township-fd-ohio

    …proving that chicks run the same risks as the guys, and can die just like the guys. Even with the guys.

    Women have natural physical limitations, but courage isn’t one of them. I’ve seen men run where women did not. So while I’ll agree that they are better suited for some roles in general than others, it’s should be an individual assessment and not a blanket statement on sex.

    Which makes the physical tests important.

    You need to know what people can do. People need to know their own limitations before its life-or-death. You’re not doing ANYONE a favor by reducing the requirements, least of all the woman in question.

    Because while you can reduce the physical requirements in a test,

    You can’t reduce them in a burning house.

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